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Weird ... have looked and looked for a Topic that this belongs to .. but must have been the processing of my own spam that brought this one up ... Anyway, e-mail back from Ellen says;

true

We're seeing what we can do about it

Ellen

SpamCop

----- Original Message -----

From: "WazoO"

To: <deputies <at> admin.spamcop.net>

Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:38 PM

Subject: APNIC mirror

> Doesn't appear to be worth a dang ....

> http://www.spamcop.net/sc?track=218.59.212.141

> SpamCop v 1.406 © Ironport Systems Inc., 1998-2005 , All rights reserved.

>

> Parsing input: 218.59.212.141

> host 218.59.212.141 (getting name) no name

> "whois 218.59.212.141[at]whois.apnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.apnic.net mirror)

> Display data:

> Lookup xz14-ap[at]whois.apnic.net

> "whois xz14-ap[at]whois.apnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.apnic.net mirror)

> Display data:

> xz14-ap =

> Lookup ch455-ap[at]whois.apnic.net

> "whois ch455-ap[at]whois.apnic.net" (Getting contact from whois.apnic.net mirror)

> Display data:

> ch455-ap =

> whois.apnic.net 218.59.212.141 (nothing found)

> host 218.59.212.141 (getting name) no name

>

> No reporting addresses found for 218.59.212.141, using devnull for tracking.

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

> The first "display data" item returns;

> http://www.spamcop.net/sc?action=showwhois...=218.59.212.141

> $ whois 218.59.212.141

>

> [spamcop mirror]

>

> inetnum: 218.56.0.0 - 218.59.255.255

> netname: CNCGROUP-SD

> descr: CNCGROUP Shandong province network

> country: CN

> admin-c: CH455-AP

> tech-c: XZ14-AP

> mnt-by: APNIC-HM

> mnt-lower: MAINT-CNCGROUP-SD

> status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE

> changed: hmxxxxxxxx[at]apxxxxxxx 20031229

> changed: hmxxxxxxxx[at]apxxxxxxx 20040927

> changed: hmxxxxxxxx[at]apxxxxxxx 20041203

> source: APNIC

>

> © Ironport Systems Inc., 1998-2005 , All rights reserved. HTML4 / CSS2

> Firefox recommended - Policies and Disclaimers

> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

> pretty bad ...as compared to another version of the data ...????

> 02/06/05 17:29:43 whois 218.59.212.141[at]whois.apnic.net

>

> whois -h whois.apnic.net 218.59.212.141 ...

> % [whois.apnic.net node-2]

> % Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

>

> inetnum: 218.56.0.0 - 218.59.255.255

> netname: CNCGROUP-SD

> descr: CNCGROUP Shandong province network

> country: CN

> admin-c: CH455-AP

> tech-c: XZ14-AP

> mnt-by: APNIC-HM

> mnt-lower: MAINT-CNCGROUP-SD

> status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE

> changed: hm-changed[at]apnic.net 20031229

> changed: hm-changed[at]apnic.net 20040927

> changed: hm-changed[at]apnic.net 20041203

> source: APNIC

>

> role: CNCGroup Hostmaster

> e-mail: abuse[at]cnc-noc.net

> address: No.156,Fu-Xing-Men-Nei Street,

> address: Beijing,100031,P.R.China

> nic-hdl: CH455-AP

> phone: +86-10-82993155

> fax-no: +86-10-82993102

> country: CN

> admin-c: CH444-AP

> tech-c: CH444-AP

> changed: abuse[at]cnc-noc.net 20041119

> mnt-by: MAINT-CNCGROUP

> source: APNIC

>

> person: XIAOFENG ZHANG

> nic-hdl: XZ14-AP

> e-mail: ip[at]pub.sd.cninfo.net

> address: Jinan,Shandong P.R China

> phone: +86-531-605

> fax-no: +86-531-605

> country: CN

> changed: zhang-xf[at]sd.cn.net 20050128

> mnt-by: MAINT-ZXF

> source: APNIC

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Per Tracking URL http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z774509122z4f...2ea286d9cebe91z and lookups at APNIC, the following lookups are also failing:

06/13/05 12:30:38 whois lq112-ap[at]whois.apnic.net

whois -h whois.apnic.net lq112-ap ...

% [whois.apnic.net node-2]

% Whois data copyright terms    http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

person:    LV QIANG

nic-hdl:      LQ112-AP

e-mail:    crnet_mgr[at]chinatietong.com

address:      22F Yuetan Mansion,Xicheng District,Beijing,P.R.China

phone:        +86-10-51890499

fax-no:    +86-10-51890674

country:      CN

changed:      ipas[at]cnnic.net.cn 20041208

mnt-by:    MAINT-CNNIC-AP

source:    APNIC

06/13/05 12:31:34 whois lm273-ap[at]whois.apnic.net

whois -h whois.apnic.net lm273-ap ...

% [whois.apnic.net node-2]

% Whois data copyright terms    http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

person:    liu min

nic-hdl:      LM273-AP

e-mail:    crnet_tec[at]chinatietong.com

address:      22F Yuetan Mansion,Xicheng District,Beijing,P.R.China

phone:        +86-10-51848796

fax-no:    +86-10-51842426

country:      CN

changed:      ipas[at]cnnic.net.cn 20041208

mnt-by:    MAINT-CNNIC-AP

source:    APNIC

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The solution ist quite simple, I think. The reporting page reads e.g.

"whois 61.232.205.187[at]whois.apnic.net"

I just tried this at my console:

# whois 61.232.205.187[at]whois.apnic.net

No whois server is known for this kind of object.

But this works:

# whois -h whois.apnic.net 61.232.205.187

% [whois.apnic.net node-1]

% Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html

inetnum: 61.232.0.0 - 61.237.255.255

netname: CRTC

country: CN

descr: CHINA RAILWAY TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER

admin-c: LQ112-AP

tech-c: LM273-AP

status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE

changed: ipas[at]cnnic.net.cn 20030121

mnt-by: MAINT-CNNIC-AP

source: APNIC

[...]

Olaf

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From: "Ellen"

Newsgroups: spamcop.routing

Subject: APNIC issues

Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 12:26:50 -0400

Organization: SpamCop

Lines: 12

Message-ID: <d8kcb0$ldn$1[at]news.spamcop.net>

NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:30:25 +0000 (UTC)

I have opened a ticket on the APNIC issues. Until that is resolved, there is

no point in sending any more of these to routing. I am not inclined to

manual route the whole of apnic one block at a time :-)

Thanks

Ellen

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I'm wondering if maybe APNIC is blocking SpamCop or something because I have no such lookup problems from my system at home... Not sure if SC is "overloading" their servers or if they just don't like all the spam complaints going to China. <_<

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I'm wondering if maybe APNIC is blocking SpamCop or something

29274[/snapback]

APNIC would not do this, but perhaps chinese spam providers' nameservers could be configured in a way that spamcop's DNS lookups permanently fail.

So I thought of openig several nameservers (the more, the better) to spamcop so that spamcop could resolve DNS names by using non-spamcop nameservers.

And if chinese ISPs would block these, our customers could not resolve the spamvertized websites also. And those chinese ISPs would have shot into their own foot. >:-)

Just my 2 cents

Olaf

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