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| web wench |
Jun 25 2006, 02:58 AM
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I own a domain name. I have an email catch-all configured for that domain, and starting 2 months ago I started receiving reams of bounced emails that I never sent.
They are all spams that are being sent with the "from" email being from my domain. I have been reporting these spams successfully until today, when I set up my mailhosts. Since I did that, I get this message: Possible forgery. Supposed receiving system not associated with any of your mailhosts Will not trust anything beyond this header For example: http://spamcop.net/sc?id=z982557828z2c3514...b5dcc397a1038fz Is there a way that I can report these emails using spamcop? Thanks. |
| StevenUnderwood |
Jun 25 2006, 07:47 AM
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What Life? Group: Membersph Posts: 5141 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Whitinsville, MA USA Member No.: 12 |
I have been reporting these spams successfully until today, when I set up my mailhosts. Since I did that, I get this message: The rules state you can report the bounces (the server is "resending" the spam to a forged email address) but you are not supposed to report the original spam which was not sent to you. Mailhosts is simply enforing that rule by only allowing you to report messages sent to your addresses (domains, actually). -------------------- Steven P. Underwood, DNRC
Whitinsville, MA underwood+forum[at]spamcop.net -No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.- |
| web wench |
Jun 25 2006, 11:42 AM
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The rules state you can report the bounces (the server is "resending" the spam to a forged email address) Thanks for clarifying that, it makes sense. But if I report the bounces, won't the reports be sent to the network of the poor schmuck who was receiving spam sent on my behalf? The bounces aren't coming from the spammer, they're coming from the spamee. I hope I'm making sense, I feel like I'm confused. |
| dbiel |
Jun 25 2006, 02:12 PM
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Been There Group: Membersph Posts: 2453 Joined: 20-February 04 From: San Gabriel Valley CA USA (Los Angeles) Member No.: 447 |
But if I report the bounces, won't the reports be sent to the network of the poor schmuck who was receiving spam sent on my behalf? Very true. But the bounces themselves have become such a problem that they have become a form of spam. The point of reporting them is to get those that are bouncing mail to forged addresses to stop doing it. Mail needs to be rejected prior to being accepted at which point it is bounced back to the sending IP address where it actually came from rather than the forged reply to address.The bounces aren't coming from the spammer, they're coming from the spamee. -------------------- This forum is a user support forum. The Moderators and Forum Admin are volunteers (not paid) and have no special direct relationship with SpamCop.net.
If you have been unable to receive the assistance you need here please see How To Contact SpamCop Staff Thank you for your participation in our peer to peer, user based forums. |
| Miss Betsy |
Jun 25 2006, 04:11 PM
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T-shirt wearing out Group: Membersph Posts: 3332 Joined: 2-February 04 Member No.: 174 |
You might try reading these FAQ also to learn more about the problem
How do I stop spammers from using my email address? OR Why am I getting all these Bounces? Miss Betsy -------------------- an almost new internet user
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| web wench |
Jun 25 2006, 05:56 PM
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You might try reading these FAQ also to learn more about the problem Thanks for those. Thing is, I've been patient. They say it lasts only a few days or a week, for me this is 6 weeks now with no signs of it slowing up. My domain, the way it is now, only allows 5 email addresses. I have a valid use for the catch-all, I don't want to go into great detail, but it is a feature that has been handy for me. My own internet service provider, roadrunner, is one of the offenders, just this morning I received 5 bounced email notices just from them. And from individuals, invitations to add myself to their allowed sender list. I was patient for a long time, now I'm going nuts. Yesterday alone I received 100 of those notices. Not to mention the spam that comes through addressed to me, some of it with a "from" or a "reply to" address from my own domain. I swear, I'm not a violent person, but if I had a gun and I knew where to point it... |
| StevenUnderwood |
Jun 25 2006, 07:21 PM
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What Life? Group: Membersph Posts: 5141 Joined: 20-January 04 From: Whitinsville, MA USA Member No.: 12 |
My domain, the way it is now, only allows 5 email addresses. I have a valid use for the catch-all, I don't want to go into great detail, but it is a feature that has been handy for me. This is one of those areas that spammers have ruined for everyone. If you leave a catch-all account open, you are likely to get much more spam that others do. I understand they are convienient, until something like this happens. You are correct, 6 weeks is a long time for this type of activity. Is it possible you upset someone by reporting them and this is revenge? Until SMTP is replaced with something more secure (nothing on the horizon that I've seen) there is no way to stop someone from forging your domain on their spam messages. While you should not report these through spamcop, you can use spamcop to determine the destination for reports and send manual reports. It is a lot more work, though. Also, reporting the sites that are bouncing to you (both non-deliverables and the "invitations to add myself") will possibly alert them to what they are doing (dumping spam on other innocent users). If they stop, your problem will be reduced as well. -------------------- Steven P. Underwood, DNRC
Whitinsville, MA underwood+forum[at]spamcop.net -No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.- |
| Wazoo |
Jun 25 2006, 07:56 PM
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What Life? Group: Forum Admin Posts: 12536 Joined: 22-January 04 From: Iowa Member No.: 18 |
And from individuals, invitations to add myself to their allowed sender list. See Challenge/Response for this bit of lunacy. Sure, it's wondeful for the person sitting behind that 'tool' ... but as you indicate, it is currently a real PITA for the rest of the world. On the other hand, some folks "gladly" follow through on that request for acceptance .. on the premise that future spam will end up in that very account rather than bouncing back to "your" InBox .....???? |
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