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62.23.93.114 listed in bl.spamcop.net (127.0.0.2)

If there are no reports of ongoing objectionable email from this system it will be delisted automatically in approximately 21 hours.
Causes of listing

* System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past week (spam traps are secret, no reports or evidence are provided by SpamCop)
* It appears this listing is caused by misdirected bounces. We have a FAQ which covers this topic: Why auto-responses are bad (Misdirected bounces). Please read this FAQ and heed the advice contained in it.

Additional potential problems
(these factors do not directly result in spamcop listing)

* System administrator has already delisted this system once

Because of the above problems, express-delisting is not available
Listing History
System has been listed for 47 hours.
Dispute Listing
If you are the administrator of this system and you are sure this listing is erroneous, you may request that we review the listing. Because everyone wants to dispute their listing, regardless of merit, we reserve the right to ignore meritless disputes.
Dispute listing of 62.23.93.114

My company isn't a spammer company, and by the way, we use email really often, so it's really annoying for us to have this problem.

Each time my collegues try to send mails to some partners, we got this kind of message :
And when I'm trying to see what's happen by connecting me on your website, I got it :
I really need help from you, because it's becoming really urgent for me.

La manière correcte 'de rebondir 'l'email est de le rejeter au niveau de serveur. ..Si vous acceptez tout l'email et puis le filtrez pour le Spam, vous en devriez jeter qui va à votre chemise de Spam. Vous devriez regarder la chemise de Spam soigneusement pour des erreurs. Accepter l'email et puis le filtrage de lui signifie qu'il n'y a aucun message de rejet si l'email n'est pas accepté. Si vous rejetez l'email au serveur, alors l'expéditeur reçoit un message de rejet. Si ce n'est pas Spam, alors l'expéditeur peut fixer le problème.

1. Click Start, point to Programs, point to Microsoft Exchange, and then click System Manager.
2. Expand the Global Settings container in the left pane, click Internet Message Formats, right-click the Default object, and then click Properties.
3. Click the Advanced tab.
4. Click to clear the Allow non-delivery reports check box, and then click OK.

I have just desactivated :
Allow "Out of office" replies
Allow Automatic replies
Allow Automatic transfert

Do you think it's enough ?

My first priority is to be white listed from SpamCop database, I don't care if the "out of office" service don't work for now

In all cases, thanks a lot

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Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)

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Thanks you Derek T

but how could I process ?

sorry but I never meet something like this, so I don't know how to do it.

thanks again

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail.agefi.fr.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

{cn...@agefi.fr>:
Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. vpopmail (#5.1.1)

You should probably try contacting the deputies (deputies[at]admin.spamcop.net) to find out just exactly what kind of "Misdirected bounces" are causing the problem. If you are running an SMTP anti-virus package on the server, some of these have been known to bounce messages to forged addresses by default. Getting some additional info from the deputies on just what kind of messages they are seeing would narrow down the troubleshooting substantially.

Concerning Out of Office responders. If you receive a lot of spam, they are almost sure to cause you grief, as they will be responding to everything that comes in. On the other hand, if you do not receive much spam due to intensive filtering and blocking practices, you usually won't have any problems with Out of Office responders, and they are very unlikely to cause a listing.

I run an exchange server, and use a number of blocklist to reject email during the SMTP transaction. I also use IMF v. 2, which is included with Exchange 2003 SP2 to help sort the remaining mail. Between these, so little spam ends up in my users inboxes, that we have never had a problem with Out of Office/Vacation responders, despite managements insistance on using them.

Someone with far more knowledge than I will be along soon...

Strange, that bounce was not sent by an Exchange Server, are you sure you are using Microsoft Exchange as your Front-End mail server, and not routing through a qmail based server of some type?

Strange, that bounce was not sent by an Exchange Server, are you sure you are using Microsoft Exchange as your Front-End mail server, and not routing through a qmail based server of some type?

GraemeL, yes, we are assosiated with intrinsec which are our service company.

But I tried to contact them for this problem, we are both trying to resolve the problem

I really don't know what's wrong, because I desactived all the automatic replies from the server...

Thanks to all the members that helped me.

I'm currently in contact with the deputies and they told me to turn off the "the OoO replies" but I don't know what are thoses replies.

Client host [62.23.93.114] blocked using bl.spamcop.net; Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?62.23.93.114>

ooo = Out Of Office

You can still use Out of Office replies if you only send them to known correspondents.

Miss Betsy

Hello

So, if I've really understand, my ip address has been added on the server (or "anti-spam" tool) of the correspondant list as blacklisted by SpamCop, that's why when we tried to send him/her a mail, we are immediatly reject and then, recieved this message ?
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...Here is how to do that:

• English
• French (Définition d'une règle pour envoyer une réponse automatique dans Outlook 2003)

...Users should be instructed to use the "from people or distribution list" option in "Step 1: Select conditions" to list only the specific people to whom it is safe to send Out of Office messages. In my employer's Microsoft Exchange Server, there is an "All employees" distribution list that allows us to include everyone in our company without having to list them individually.

...Yes, this is one possibility. Another possibility is that the reason for the rejection is that your server is on another list but the rejection message incorrectly blames the SpamCop BL.