Farelf, thanks for these links, I read all... (slowly) biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Farelf @ Apr 28 2008, 04:54 PM) *

Maybe we should add your ISP to the list?
why not ... that is neuf.fr with three million subscribers.

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Note, sometimes sending a copy of the submission email to the ISP will succeed in punching it through to SpamCop, as you will see mentioned...
Sometimes ISPs come to understand...
no hope on this side; french IPSs do extra tasks only if there is financial gains on the key, or under pressure of the Law or the Net surveillance authorities (money, money, always money ! dry.gif )

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Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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QUOTE(craigt @ Apr 28 2008, 06:53 PM) *

One suggestion (the method that I use) is reporting the spam via SpamCop SMTP. The only downside of this is that you need the paid mailbox.
That's the way I used with Outlook Express; in my contacts list, I click on SpamCop (my submit mailbox); this opens a blank mail; then I select several spams, drag&drop the multi-selection in the new mail, and send it; less than five mouse clicks; that's easy.
But after June 30, 2008, this will work no more.
As said SpamCopAdmin, "easily" is the keyword; we are volunteers and if the task is too complex, a lot of us will leave…

QUOTE(SpamCopAdmin @ Apr 28 2008, 08:58 PM) *

There has been talk about us accepting zipped submissions in order to circumvent outgoing spam filters, but the project has been stalled for two years now.
yes, but anti-virus also scan in zip files (and in zip files included in mails ??).

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Mostly because nobody believes there will be very many users willing to go to all that trouble to send in spam for reporting.
This may change soon with MS choices to stop DAV protocol. wink.gif

QUOTE(Lking @ Apr 28 2008, 11:58 PM) *

I have noted a trend. A large number of "the continuous complaints" seem to come from Hotmail, Gmail, etc. users and users of Outlook Express or what ever default mail app. Now I don't want to sound like a snob but you do tend to get what you pay for.

In this case there are 2 points: 1) If your ISP is not providing the type of service you want, change. 2) Hotmail/Gmail i.e. the ISP, and their throw away addresses have been a source of much domestic spam.
About spam reporting, all the ISP (in France) act in the same way under government pressure, and apply outgoing spam filters; changing of ISP is useless.
Mails accounts like Gmail, Yahoo and my ISP account use their owns POP servers, but the same SMTP server provided by my ISP to send mails ! So, all my reports are stopped, whichever the mailbox used.
Hotmail is a special case, which uses DAV protocol over HTTP, and my ISP doesn't filter HTTP (what luck biggrin.gif ); that's why we can still use Hotmail to report, via Outlook Express for its ease of use (with Hotmail support).
But primarily there is no problem with mail applications or options.


As Microsoft is recommending, we can install Windows Live Mail, which supports Hotmail (I didn't try); but in a near future, MS will certainly choose to stop spams from Hotmail, and the problem will come back.

That's why I think that the problem may be definitively solved only by the SpamCop devs, to avoid use of SMTP port25; maybe using Java scri_pt or applets to transmit reports, or with the same technique than "Attachments files upload" in Invision Power Board software.
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