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spamcop.net' date='Jul 12 2008, 12:44 PM' post='65520']When I surfed to SpamCop to find answers, it seems every link points to these forums.
Not sure I can grok that as the total picture, actually.
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What the "Help" links seems to suggest is that if you don't read and inquire on the forums for *any* issue, you're wasting the time of administrators at SpamCop.
Specifics please. The general concept is that the Forum has many eyes, many folks willing to help out. Going the Official route means trying to get the attention of three people that try to handle a self-admitted volume of something to the tune of 800-1800 e-mails a day. In the case of JT and the e-mail system, I know for a fact that he is also quite overloaded with incoming e-mail, unfortunately, a lot of that should have been directed to one of the three responsible for the Parsing & Reporting system. I simply don't have a clue where you might have come up with the "wasting their time" concept, other than the suggestions/instructions to provide all data necessary in the first attempted contact.
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I was leery about writing to SpamCop because the last time I did so, my email bounced back to me undelivered. I was writing about a phishing scam that involved someone using "support" as a From address and the domain was Spamcop.net. I, naturally, didn't respond to it because I recognized it as a phish. But, then, I couldn't figure out how to alert Spamcop about it. When my alerting email bounced back, I was just lost. I couldn't find another email address to write to.
Not enough specific data to try to diagnose what may have gone wrong. On the other hand, those phish e-mails would assumedly be the same ones addressed within the various Announcements provided on numerous pages across the whole of the SpamCop.net system.
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That's why I turned to the forum FAQs.
Note: The
Forum FAQ is a specific 'document' ....
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It's not at all apparent to me, a non techie, that these forums NOT for the purpose of managing ones' email accounts. The discussions available approach the issue I had, but they weren't clear. I understand the difference between an email account and a forum subscription, but it looked to me like I was supposed to use the forums to 1) search for an answer to my personal account issue, and 2) if I didn't see my specific issue address I was to post my question on a forum so that other account holders would have the benefit of it, and SpamCop admin wouldn't have to repeat the same instructions to others in individual email messages.
The person using the display name of SpamCopAdmin seems to enjoy responding to e-mail, answering the same questions over and over and over and over. My concept is to provide a FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) list, such that the same data doesn't have to be typed in here over and over and over.
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Finally, if I'm to address my issues with "JT", how do I contact JT? See? That's one of the problems. I have actually looked for an email address to, in essence, speak to a live person and I've yet to be able to find such an email address. Seem like as I approach some area of the web site that approximates a "Contact Us" area, it immediately refers me to a forum, cautioning me to "use the FAQs" first, as if there is no possible way to write to an individual at SpamCop.
Actually, I'm thinking of only a single page that comes close to your description. However, here I go, ...
SpamCop FAQ 'here' lists
How can I contact a SpamCop representative? .... However, this is part of the Official/Original FAQ whhich has been complained about for years. There is an "e-mail service support" link on that page which directs you to the page I believe you are talinking about in the above .... however, I will also note the Official/Original FAQ status is also involved on that page.
The SpamCop Wiki includes the page
Where to get HelpThe
Home page for the e-mail system offers the link to a web-form contact point at
Contact UsFollowing the red-lettered
------>------> Latest and Current Announcements <------<------ item at the top of the Forum 'front' page, one finds the links entitled
How to find what you are looking for without pulling your hair out in the process. and
Not finding the Help you need?Short (?) list of a few places the data you say you can't find exists. I really don't want to calculate just how many times the same data exists within other Topics and Posts, unfortunately, to include this Topic/Discussion.
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I'd say that it would be helpful if SpamCop had a **prominent** means of communicating directly with them via email. I tend to get brushed off on this suggestion.
You say you need it "prominent" .... I'm saying it's plastered all over the place. As stated a few times already, it was provided to you directly within this Topic and David's PM. Quite a difference of opinion going on, I'd say.
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If an email avenue was opened for a deaf person to communicate with a company, companies tend to think they would open the door to a great many people emailing them without sufficient personnel to handle the correspondence. That sounds like a legitimate reason to channel communications to the place where personnel are already in place.
And again, there are numerous folks available here, over in the newsgroups that are willing to try to help. However, you chose to ask a question that you don't feel is yet answered within the FAQs that I/we have generated, no one else has either asked or bother to come back and supply an answer that you felt you could understand .... thus, there is no option other than to point you to the person that owns, runs, and maintains the SpamCop.net e-mail system.
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So, how do I contact JT?
Provided several times prior to this reply, your post asking for it again, and the various links and FAQs that have been around for a few years ... not ignoring that David also provided it to you in his PM that you have apparently not answered.
As noted in another post, you have yet to say anything about the suggested name change request .. yet much time has gone by ....