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    too many to list. broadcasting, publishing, real estate, travel, reading, fine dining, the aids crisis in south africa, you name it.
  1. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    Please tell me.... How else can you achieve the same result... without c/r...? I need to be able to post my email address in my company's web site. I receive unsolicited emails from tons of people who are potential new clients... I need to receive these emails... I also receive tons and tons and tons of spam sent to my email address every day... which I don't want to even see... I absolutely refuse to spend even 10 seconds of my time each day skimming through them.... just to determine which messages are critical to my business... and which ones are trying to sell me penis enlargement pills.... So, tell me, how can I achieve all of these objectives with some system other than c/r?
  2. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    By the way, dear Reader... Check out mailblocks.com They have JUST been named Editors Choice by PC Magazine... It won't be long...... before EVERYONE is using cr, as I predicted.... http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,1477389,00.asp and.... http://www.mailblocks.com
  3. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    Mostly be telephone, or in person... But if we must use email... I either send them an email first, or add them to my addressbook. In either case, they are automatically added to my addressbook, and will never receive a cr message.
  4. brucewagner

    Invision Power Board

    Call me stupid.... But why would the average reader ever need the poster's IP address (question mark) (this keyboard in this cafe sucks)
  5. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    How is a robot going to read those squiggly twisted blurry numbers and letters and type them in......?
  6. brucewagner

    mailblocks.com rant

    Miss Betsy, That is the whole point of challenge-response. You receive lots of mail from people you don't know... And it is called spam. The whole point is to eliminate the need for you to actually manually spend some of your own time, every single day of your life, sifting through trash emails (spam)... for no reason. And besides, although I may be the minority, I have nearly 6,000 names in my Palm PDA addressbook. These are actual friends, contacts, family, associates, acquaintences, mistresses , whatever... I could certainly never remember (memorize) all 6,000 of their email addresses and recognize them.... manually. However, my challenge-response system has automatically accumulated 3,635 of them for me.... so far... And it recognizes email from each of them automatically. I couldn't live without it! In fact, before I had challenge-response I used to spend a minimum of an hour a day sifting through all the spam in all 6 of my email accounts.... Now, nothing is there.... except REAL messages from REAL humans that I WANT to hear from.... I love it!
  7. brucewagner

    Invision Power Board

    I can't imagine how it could be simpler.... Anyway, how much does it cost for them to host a forum for you? (approximately)
  8. brucewagner

    mailblocks.com rant

    It's really not all that complex. Think: Auto-Reply. C/R works in almost the same way... What happens if my auto-reply triggers your auto-reply....? The systems are smart enough to only send it once.... per address. As to "what happens to the original message?"..... It is stored in a pending folder for somewhere between 4 days and 14 days (depending on the user's preference settings), then it is automatically deleted forever. In other words, no one ever sees it and it is silently, painlessly, killed. Also Note: If I send you a message, your address is automatically entered into my Approved Addresses list. You will NEVER recieve a c/r message from my system. Never. Ever. ONLY if you send me a message first, AND I've never sent one to you before, AND you've never verified yourself with my c/r before... THEN, and ONLY THEN, will you get a c/r message from my system. Once you verify yourself as a human, OR I add you to my addressbook, OR I send you an email, you will NEVER EVER get another c/r message from my system again...
  9. brucewagner

    Invision Power Board

    This is only about my third or fourth visit to spamcop's web-based forums since you've been using this Invision Power Board.... but..... I am very impressed by it. I love the interface. Simplicity is a beautiful thing. Can someone please tell me the details about Invision.... Is it software you're running on your own server, or is it an outsourced service served by Invision's servers? What are the approximate costs involved for an individual who wanted to host his own forum(s)? Also, is spellcheck an optional feature?
  10. brucewagner

    mailblocks.com rant

    The way you phrased this question, as I understand it... as a C/R user myself (mailblocks.com), the answer is.... No. No one would receive a C/R message. Reason: You question stated "If everyone had c/r..." If everyone had C/R, then no. None of those 1,000,000 people who had their email address forged into the From line would ever receive a C/R message.... BECAUSE.... and only because.... they are protcect by their OWN C/R... Anyway.... I'm interested in hearing more about this SMPT thing... Is it possible to parse an email's headers and VERIFY that the FROM address "MATCHES" the IP address the message originated from...??? If so, how reliable would such a method be? This would only work if there were lookup tables maintained somewhere?? Or would the lookup simply use the internet's own DNS servers? Would there be any, normally occurring, exceptions to this rule? (i.e. Where it would be a normally occurring situation that the FROM address did NOT match the IP address of the sender.) It seems to me that this would only work if: (1) It were 100% reliable, and (2) There were no normally ocurring exceptions. For example, what if I use my Yahoo Mail account when I am travelling... But I have a Reply To address is an email address at my employer's company domain. The sending IP address would not match the email address in the Reply To.... that's for sure. Am I totally misunderstanding how this SMTP concept could work?
  11. brucewagner

    mailblocks.com rant

    Hey! I don't pretend to be technical enough to understand the details... But THIS certainly sounds like a solution! Is it possible that C/R systems (Are you listening, Mailblocks Folks?) could use SMTP (whatever that means) to insure that thier C/R messages are really being sent to the real sender... and not innocent victims???
  12. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    (1) Spammer A sends out a zillion spam messages. (2) One of the recipients is a challenge-response person, Person B. (3) That spam message contains a forged FROM address of a real user, User C. (4) Therefore, Person B's inbox generates a challenge-response message which is then sent to User C (the FROM address). (5) If User C is also a challenge-response user, then Person B's challenge-response message would NEVER BE RECEIVED by User C. (It would be blocked since User C has never actually sent a message to Person B before... and therefore, Person B is NOT on User C's 'whitelist' of approved correspondants.) (6) Also, next, User C's inbox would generate and send a challenge-response message back to Person B... But since Person B never sent a real message TO User C, User C's challenge-response message would never get through to Person B either... Therefore.... The net result would be... NO ONE WOULD RECEIVE THE spam, AND NO ONE WOULD RECEIVE A CHALLENGE-RESPONSE MESSAGE. Make sense? If everyone uses challenge-response.... No more spam. Simple.
  13. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    If a REAL address is used in a spammer's FROM line.... Responses WILL come back to that real address.... 99.99% of those responses will be one of the following three types: (1) An auto-reply. i.e. "I'm out of the office til Thursday...." (2) An actual typed reply i.e. "Take me off of your G** D*** list!!!!!" or (3) A return-to-sender message i.e. "Message Undeliverable..." I would be willing to guess that, currently, less than 0.01% of the responses would consist of Challenge-Response messsages. THEREFORE, BEFORE defaming Challenge-Response technology......, you might be most EFFECTIVE to concentrate on the 99.99%, and.... FIRST eliminate all auto-replies from the internet, and FIRST elimitate all actual typed replies to spam from the internet, and FIRST eliminate all Message Undeliverable messages from the internet. Once you've eliminated all of these evils..... Then we can tackle eliminating challenge-response messages as well.... Yes, BOTH of those nasty challenge-response messages.... damn those systems...
  14. brucewagner

    mailblocks.com rant

    If you have a challenge-response system... If, for example, you have a mailblocks.com account.... And a spammer forges your email address as the FROM address to 58,000,000,000 addresses.... How many auto-replies will you receive? How many info-replies will you receive? How many error-in-sending messages will you receive? How many challenge-response messages will you receive? You will receive exactly zero (0). Because if you did not first SEND to THAT address..., ALL mail FROM that address will not get through to you. Therefore, no spam. You will receive zero, zip, nada... <<<NOW>> Let me ask you this...... If you have an ordinary run-of-the-mill email service... And a spammer forges your email address as the FROM address to 58,000,000,000 addresses.... How many auto-replies will you receive? How many info-replies will you receive? How many error-in-sending messages will you receive? How many challenge-response messages will you receive? Maybe, ahhhh..... 580,000 or so......? CONCLUSION MADE SIMPLE: You need a challenge-response system... perhaps a mailblocks.com account.... They're free now, by the way.
  15. brucewagner

    Mailblocks.com

    Oy Mama! Where do I start!!!??? It is not all that complicated..... First, you have to admit that challenge-response messages are no more of a "threat" to the internet than auto-reply messages are. If a spammer forges a real email address in the FROM line, all of those recipients who are sending out auto-reply messages, ala "I''m out of the office until Tuesday..." ...... ......results in the SAME EXACT thing. So where is the fight against auto-reply messages? It's insane. I bet if I send an email to your company's main email address, I will get an informational auto-reply. If I send an email to the support department of ANYTHING, I will get an informational auto-reply. If I send an email to the order status department of ANY online retailer, I will get an informational auto-reply. The list of email addresses which will result in an autoreply...... is ENDLESS. These messages result in the SAME EFFECT if a spam with a forged FROM address is sent to them.... And you know that these addresses are receiving TONS of spam.... Any address beginning info[at].... or support[at]... or sales[at].... They ALL will generate an autoreply. If challenge-response is the internet's worst enemy, then auto-reply messages are AN EQUAL CRISIS. However, auto-reply messages are as old as email iteself.... And, NO ONE thinks that they present a problem. If everyone used challenge-response no one would ever receive spam. And therefore, spam would become as obsolete as the typewriter. By the way, in your example, it was obvious that you have never used a challenge-response system..... like mailblocks.com First, c-r messages are ONLY sent ONCE, to people whom you have never sent a message TO, and who you have never approved of a message FROM.... Therefore, it is impossible that your c-r message would not be delivered to me. ....unless I never sent a message to you in the first place. You see, if I sent you a message, your address is AUTOMATICALLY approved. Therefore, anything that comes from you gets through. (Unless I later decide to block you.) If I did NOT send you a message, your c-r message will NOT get through to me. Of course, when a message does not get through to me, it is placed in a "Pending" folder for 14 days. Of course, every user periodically skims through this folder checking for anything important.... like a real message from someone who is too clueless to respond to the c-r message...., or an automated newsletter they subscribed to... Upon finding something the user WANTS, he simply moves it to his Inbox.... thereby automatically adding that email address to their approved list. And, no, the ISP has absolutely NO access to my whitelist. My whitelist resides within my account on Mailblocks servers..... just like your email does.... and your addressbook does..... And, of course, there is a totally simple facility to back all that info up... locally as well. SO, have I addressed all of your unfounded fears with regard to auto-reply messages and c-r messages ???
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