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luisalbondigas

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  1. As far as I can see, TBird filters are set up and work on a folder by folder basis. Yep, bummer. For all my myriad sub-folders and their thousands of messages, I just dragged them down off SpamCop to local, and no longer use SpamCop filters to move them into sub-folders on SpamCop. Basically, I'm now only using the SpamCop Inbox, Held Mail, and no sub-folders (with one exception that's not germane here). For TBird, what I have done is to create the same filter for each top level Inbox in the five accounts I'm currently loading in TBird, including the SpamCop Mail top level Inbox. (Those five, and others that I used to point to SpamCop for consolidation I'm now collecting individually as TBird accounts. Perhaps later I'll find another consolidation service with clear data security policies. Until then, I'm doing it myself.) I used a "size > 0k" criterion, with Move to a local folder that acts as my main Inbox (now that I don't marshal all my mail through SpamCop). Unfortunately, I have to do it for each top level Inbox. As it turns out, though, I am now for the first time making use of the TBird Unified Inbox feature, to see all the five account top level Inbox messages in one virtual folder. From there it's easy to just drag them down to my local marshaling folder in one move. Not optimal for those days with hundreds of messages, but it's working for now; one can switch back and forth from individual and unified folder views, as I do, to manage the freight as well. I've got my eye out for a TBird add-in that will facilitate filter actions across multiple folders. That would be nice. It's too bad, really. The SpamCop Horde implementation is very nice, well evolved and thought out. Works very well. Oh well..
  2. If you're using TBird, on any OS, you can just create a filter to move all mail off the SpamCop IMAP volumes, down to your local folders. Then whatever regular backup regime you follow should also back up your mail. Me, I use MozBackup regularly, and the back files get moved over to the USB externals I use in rotation. Pretty simple. The trick is to keep the mail off the IMAP account if the provider doesn't promise backup and failover etc.
  3. We'll have to agree to disagree. It's one thing to perform belts and suspenders local backups of data you are already paying to have secured externally. It's another to say that it's a law of the jungle buyer beware situation. As you say, SpamCop Mail obviously didn't intend to leave the data at risk. But, sometimes reality sucks and we hope to learn from it. Or, rather, we hope our service providers learn from it. Ultimately, it would be nice to be able to hire data security - all the backups required to provide nine nines security comfort. It's certainly not unreasonable, and I hope SpamCop Mail doesn't lose the opportunity to provide that service. Anyway, we don't know what happened yet. Who knows, maybe there were physically isolated iterative backups taken on the fly 24x7 with six nines reliability, and it was all taken down by a brilliantly organized DDS bot attack by teams of miscreants? Meanwhile, I'll be moving my data off the servers, sadly, because I actually would like to have ALL my mail, including deep archives, hosted and secured externally (or as the kids say, in the cloud).
  4. Other than important new mail that I leave in the server Inbox so it's at the top of the info hierarchy, and list mail that I keep in subfolders and periodically expunge, I regularly move SpamCop Mail to TBird local folders, use Mozbackup for TBird/FFox to backup the local data, Ghost image the system main drive, and perform file x file backups, all external drives that I rotate and store in physically separate areas. It all takes about an hour a week, and (up until now) gives a warm feeling of data security. Unfortunately, my MozBackup prior to the SpamCop data loss (which will we all hope be undone today) was already three days old when the SpamCop loss occurred; thus, a conundrum. MozBackup restores are not additive. Mail received in between is lost. And, in my case personally, in exactly that time period I had to take up leadership on a project, and am faced with not knowing what to do about the (possibly) important messages received in the meantime by multiple vendors and customers. Not something I planned, but there it is. Restore from Mozbackup and attempt to contact everyone asking them to resend? And, what would happen to the mail I restore to the SpamCop servers when (as I expected would happen within a day, not more than a week), SpamCop itself performs a restore; no, I thought, best to let the professionals perform the restore (and here we are a week later....). Now I'll have to habituate regular downloads off the SpamCop servers, and not rely on the SpamCop server for persistent storage, unless SpamCop announces some reassuring new data security policies. I can live with it, but it's far from optimal. Bottom line, DIY periodic backups still leave the period after the backup where your data is in limbo, and DIY restores risk overwriting or complicating the service provider restores (for that data you trusted to them). What's the answer? DIY backups every day? Twice a day mornign and evening? Every ten minutes?
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