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  1. The easy way to peel hardboiled eggs is to crack them all over before trying to take the eggshell off. BTW, I read that the 3 second rule is bogus - that germs adhere immediately. I would think that would include the 5 second rule also. Miss Betsy
  2. Since I don't use Outlook, I didn't really follow the discussion that carefully. Re-reading the discussion it seems that you don't get a rejection message all the time. Often what happens is that it points to your host. If you have mailhosts, it may not point to your host all the time thus alerting you to the fact that something is wrong with the parse. If it stops at another incorrect point, you may not notice that the parse is incorrect and that if you send the report, you will be reporting the wrong IP address. Assumption is that deputies pay attention to the test message asking to be allowed to do quick reporting and deny quick reporting because you are using Outlook. I don't remember how VER works - whether you have to be approved or not. The parser, of course, cannot identify an Outlook spam submission since it works on the /attachment/. However, the headers of the email to which it is attached, possibly could be identified as coming from Outlook by X headers though no one found an example. The official spamcop page is a little confusing about whether the add-on programs can still be used. Five paragraphs away I don't understand why they did not delete 'unless you use one of the below add-on....' if they will not work. The only reason I can see is that they do still work on earlier versions, but not Outlook 2007. The alternative is, as Farelf suggested, that the add-ons no longer work with the new version of the parser. In which case, why did they retain mention of the add-ons at all? Why didn't they say, "Add-on programs were developed by spamcop users for previous versions of Outlook, but no longer work properly." However, in Ellen's announcement, she also mentions that mailwasher or other add-on programs may allow you to forward spam. I don't know how mailwasher works, but apparently it captures the spam email before Outlook so actually you are forwarding from mailwasher (which doesn't mangle headers) rather than Outlook. Perhaps, other add-ons could work the same way, but not the ones developed earlier (which were revised in 2004 to work with a new spamcop parser version). Is that 'what's missing'? If so, that answers both the question of 'Do Outlook users know that they may be submitting incorrect reports?' answer - no and the reason for the test message - to see if spamcop can identify an email from Outlook - the answer seems to be that, at this time, it will not since it only examines the attachment (which doesn't come from Outlook and Outlook doesn't add anything, just scrambles the header lines). The person who edited the official spamcop page has 'loosed' a lot of questions even though a clear understanding may be lost. Hopefully, some of that 'loosed' valuable information that ISPs need will find its way home by a new add-on. Miss Betsy
  3. At this point, until the new stuff comes in, IIUC, you get a message that the parser can't parse the header (I forget at this moment what the exact message says). You won't know that it is due to the Outlook problem from the rejection message, ISTM. If you come to the forum, and if you know how to search, you will find out that that rejection message is tied to Outlook. If you look around further in the forum, you will find the information that you can no longer forward messages using Outlook. As Steven Underwood says, you can still cut and paste, possibly (again, I forget all the discussion, but ISTM that it is the forwarding that mangles the headers). What will happen in the future, I don't know. Obviously, the first change that should happen is to edit the 'official' spamcop pages on how to obtain 'full headers' and send 'as attachment' Possibly, the only reference will be in the forum (which is no longer easily accessed from the spamcop help pages) or the ngs (again, not easily accessed from the official pages). Your guess is as good as mine since neither one of us is an 'official' of spamcop. Also, I, too, don't see the point of sending test messages if you don't receive spam you can report. Miss Betsy
  4. You need to have a body. If there is no body (including links that don't show up), then you can type "No body found" in the empty box. However, you need to be certain that there really isn't anything there. If you are not certain (sometimes things show up, if you look at them with the right tools and if you don't know how to do that, then you aren't certain), then I just would skip reporting that spam. Miss Betsy
  5. Well, if you do not get 'unreported spam' link when you log in, it seems as if your emails are not ever leaving. Some ISPs will, without telling customers, start to filter outgoing email that looks like spam. There is a FAQ on the subject. I think it is called 'Email Submissions disappearing' There is a checklist to see where the failure is and a list of ISP names who do this, I think. If yours is not on the list, then if they are, perhaps you will post back and we can add its name. Miss Betsy
  6. If you are a reporter, then think about this: There are two people in an email transacation. One is the sender and one is the receiver. spam causes the receiver time and money to sort it, scan it, delete it. Even then sometimes legitimate email is missed and deleted by error. spam can only be controlled by the sending end. Some internet service providers are proactive and stop spam before it leaves the sending end. Others are irresponsible or incompetent so spam continues. Why should not the sender of spam be the one to take time and money to find a responsible, competent email service provider rather than the receiver? Of course, there are always errors so that if the sender talks to his email service provider, the problem may be fixed immediately. If not, then it is the sender who can make his email safe for the receiver to receive. There are various ways of filtering spam. However, blocklists are the natural, mannerly way of controlling spam on the internet. Especially blocklists that return a message explaining that the sender is using an IP address that is sending large amounts of spam to innocent people. The person who really can do something is notified. I recently sent an email from my home email address to my work email address. I have my work email address email popped to an OE account. When I got to work, there was no email. After determining that I really had sent it to the correct address (which took time), I finally discovered in the spam folder on the webmail. I could not find out from the webmail provider why they had determined it was spam (more time). I called my email service provider and they said that they were unaware of any blocklists. (more time) I checked for myself and my IP address was not on any blocklists. (more time) Now I wonder what caused that email to go to the spam folder? How many of my emails have not been delivered to other people? I have no way of knowing because I don't know why that email was sent to the spam folder when other emails have been delivered (including spam email). So, I had to spend a lot of time hunting for an email, trying to discover why it was not delivered, and now I am unsure that other emails were ever delivered to other people. I am not a spammer. I am an end user like yourself. On the other hand, if I had received a message as you have, I would know what emails had not been delivered and why. I would have known exactly whom to contact to correct the problem. And I could select a competent, responsible email provider so that I could have reliable email. Some people prefer to receive all email and have it tagged because of business reasons. They have determined that the time and money to sort it is worth it. Most end users don't want to spend time and money to sort spam. They would prefer to have their email service provider take care of it. I would. However, I want them to use blocklists so that my correspondents know that the email has not been accepted. I expect my correspondents to be upset that they are contributing to the spam problem by paying an email provider who is incompetent or irresponsible. I expect them to be upset to know that in order to receive an email from them, I also will be getting lots of spam. It is like asking me to accept dirty, greasy packages crawling with bugs whenever they send me a package by carrier. In the interests of balanced reporting, you need to include my viewpoint in whatever you write. Miss Betsy
  7. I can't imagine what this forum would be like without Wazoo. It would probably be worse than useless. And now it is impressive. Miss Betsy
  8. There are three basic ways to submit spam to SpamCop for reporting: Via email using your submit.(16 digit A/N)[at]spam.spamcop.net email address that you get when you register Via the web form where you cut and paste the complete headers and email Via the SpamCop email service (There is more than one way via the email service. See SpamCop Email Service Forum) Via email Submitting spam for reporting via email is covered in general at SpamCop.net - SpamCop FAQ: How do I submit spam via email? Make sure you forward it as an attachment. Forwarding inline will strip out all the headers from the original spam and make your report worthless. You can change the options in your email client to forward as attachment. That way, the attached file will be the original message with the headers included. Forward as Attachment Instructions Forwarding "As Attachment" from GroupWise 6.x Forwarding "As Attachment" from HotMail Forwarding "As Attachment" From OE6 Forwarding "As Attachment" From SpamCop Webmail Forwarding "As Attachment" from ThunderBird (multiple e-mails) Forwarding "As Attachment" from Yahoo (U.S.) Once you have sent your spam via email, you will get an autoresponse from SpamCop. This email contains a link to the parser page. You don't have to wait for the autoresponse. You can go to the SpamCop website and log on. If your spam has reached SpamCop, there will be a 'Unreported spam. Report Now' link. Common Problems E-Mail spam submittals blocked by your ISP? and Emailed spam Submissions Disappearing? No Confirmation e-mails?. If you have spam filtering enabled in your Hotmail or other account, you might have to whitelist emails coming from SpamCop. Via the web form: The web form is typically located at http://www.spamcop.net/, http://members.spamcop.net/, or http://mailsc.spamcop.net/ after you login, depending on the type of account you have. You need to see ALL of the headers. SpamCop.net - SpamCop FAQ: How do I get my email program to reveal the full, unmodified email? covers how to do that. In addition to that FAQ entry's subsection SpamCop.net - SpamCop FAQ: Hotmail, please note that MSN Hotmail doesn't have a toggle option to let you switch between a normal view and a view showing all the headers. You'll need to go into to your global options to configure your Hotmail account to show ALL headers. However, whether spam or not, you'll then see all the headers for every e-mail that you view. Yahoo! has a per-message toggle that lets you switch between normal and all-header view but Hotmail does not (except as a global option). If you use the web form, the parsing is immediate and you get the parse page Parser Page At the top of the screen, there is an URL (which is the URL of the page you are looking at). This URL can be copied to your Windows clipboard and pasted in a file you create for tracking URLs. If there is a problem, people will want to know this 'Tracking URL' for troubleshooting. You will also see 'Skip to ...' which will take you past the Technical Details (if you have chosen to see them) to your choices of what to do with this spam. These choices are where the reports will be sent. You need to review this list. The list may include: Responsible party - the ISP that 'owns' the address space that the spam came from (this report also adds that IP Address to the SpamCopDNSBL - depending on how many reports are made, future emails from this IP Address will be marked as spam) Third-Party - possibly the upstream of the IP address space owner, possibly someone else, in some cases, it may even be the spammer (does not add to SpamCop DNSBL) Spamvertised web-site - usually reporting to the Hosting service of that web-site (does not add to SpamCop DNSBL) In any of the possibilities, there may a report that would be sent to a SpamCop dev/null address - this IP address has indicated to spamcop that they don't want to receive spamcop reports so no reports are sent, however, the data is added to the SpamCopDNSBL if applicable. It is best if you are new, to not check any boxes until you know what you are doing and whatever the SpamCop parser has chosen is probably ok UNLESS it is your own ISP in which case you should cancel the report. Clicking on the "Preview" button allows you to see what is actually going to be sent out. Once "you" have made the decision on which reports to send out (by checking or unchecking the boxes), click on the "Send spam Report(s) Now" button. Usually there is no acknowledgement of the SpamCop report you sent (which comes from a Report# [at] spamcop.net email address, not your email address). However, server admins do have the option to reply to you about your report. Their email goes to SpamCop and is forwarded to you. It happens so infrequently that people are sometimes alarmed when they get one. If you reply to their email, your real email address will be revealed unless you take measures to prevent that. If you have problems or don't understand the instructions, please post in the SpamCop Reporting Help Forum Acknowledgements: The vast majority of the preceding was written by Vanguard in Re: How do I submit my spam to spamcop?. JeffG Wazoo
  9. As Wazoo has pointed out several times in this topic, this is a user forum. And what Steven Underwood has said is my experience also. It is useless to complain or comment in the Help forum. It would be helpful if you have discovered a workaround. Or sometimes one misses something and needs to ask. However, If you want to, take to the Lounge and vent your frustration! You might find some people who will join in. The next post in this topic should only be that someone has discovered that it is working differently or asking a question of clarification on how the bug affects reports or suggesting an easier way of working with what is there. Miss Betsy
  10. These Forums do not provide Official SpamCop.Net Customer Support. The SpamCop.net system has various components, some free, some paid, some technical. Basically, there are two separate entities: the SpamCop Parsing Service & Blocklist; and the SpamCop Email Service. Section 8 - SpamCop's System & Active Staff gives the names of the people who are involved. The primary mode of support here is peer-to-peer, meaning users helping other users. Since there are many different aspects to SpamCop, there are people with various areas of expertise. That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters include end users with little technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email. However, the regular users have built an archive of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) so that if one poster doesn’t have the answer, it can be pointed to in the FAQ. The FAQ also provides a way for people with questions to find the answer and not have to post and wait for an answer User Created SpamCop FAQ Also there's a 'new' SpamCop-oriented Dictionary / Glossary available to you all ... please take a look at this new SpamCop Dictionary The user to user forum often provides faster and more complete answers. However, if you want to talk to a SpamCop employee about Reporting and Blocklist issues, please use this link to the web submission forms at SpamCop Web submission form which is designed to ask specific questions and extract information that leads to resolution on first contact, rather than having to write back and forth a few times. For the SpamCop Email Service and Forum: J.T. - owner/Admin of the systems that handle the SpamCop newsgroups, Forum, and Email System (AKA JT and jefft): SpamCop Email Service Contact Info
  11. My reworking: The SpamCop.net system has various components, some free, some paid, some technical. Basically, there are two separate entities: the SpamCop Parsing Service and Blocklist and the SpamCop Email Service (link to a longer description of What is SpamCop). The primary mode of support here is peer-to-peer, meaning users helping other users. Julian Haight, the founder of SpamCop, considered that a forum where there are many different people interested in the same subject works better at providing answers than one person with a reference book. Since there are many different aspects to SpamCop, there are people with various areas of expertise. That means that the forum is not truly peer-to-peer since posters include end users with little technical knowledge to server administrators with daily experience with email. However, the regular users have built an archive of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) so that if one poster doesn't have the answer, it can be pointed to in the FAQ. The FAQ also provides a way for people with questions to find the answer and not have to post and wait for an answer (here is the link to the FAQ). You may not find your "problem" identified in the FAQ shown (and there are, at least, a dozen ways of asking about different common problems so you might miss it). If so and you decide to make a post, there are certain things that the other users will want to know before they can answer your question (link to list of what people want to know when answering questions): The first poster may just point you to the FAQ - if it exists and you missed it. All of the people who regularly answer questions including the Forum Administrator and the Moderators are not employees of SpamCop. They may be rushed and unable to give a full answer. No one is intentionally rude, but each person has their own style. To consult the Forum participants is like asking advice from "shade tree mechanics" - sometimes the one with the bluntest way of talking knows the most. As Julian thought, the user to user forum often provides faster and more complete answers. However, if you want to talk to a SpamCop employee, please use this link to find contact email addresses: If you decide to post in the forum, please read the descriptions of the various forums before you select one to post in. The purpose of different forums is so that people can see other topics about the same area in one place so it is important to try to select the proper forum. If, for some reason, you get confused, a Moderator will probably move your post to the correct forum for you. Links to the FAQs, Dictionary, Glossary, and Wiki are provided at the top of this page for you to stat your search for an answer now. Is it possible for people who register to be sent to this section first?
  12. Most of the 419 scams, I have received lately, have come through them. Although they always send nice little notes saying that they appreciate the report and have canceled the account, they don't seem to have any way of stopping these criminals from using their service. Miss Betsy
  13. (Last Revised 25 August 2010) The URL of this page is http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=972 Why Am I Blocked? Probable Causes If your email has suddenly been blocked by the SpamCop blocklist, it is probably because you share an IP address with other email users and there is someone who: is using auto-responses that are replying to spam with forged spamtrap email addresses (such as Out-of-Office/Vacation notices, virus notifications, and 'bounces' created after accepting the email); has a computer with a virus that sends spam without the owner's knowledge; has a computer that has been compromised and spammers are remotely controlling it to transmit their spew; is sending unsolicited emails and your internet service provider is allowing it; or because, as in all systems, there may have been a mistake. (very rare) The SpamCop BL listing will expire automatically within a specific period of time based primarily on when the last spam came from that IP address. See SpamCop Official FAQ on Blocklist for more information on the SpamCop Blocklist. <a href="#endu">Click here</a> to jump to the section For people NOT in charge of running an e-mail server For people who are operating servers: Am I really listed in the SpamCop Blocklist?: You can check the status of any server by entering its address at http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml. The reason an IP address is listed can also be obtained from that page. If the blocklist only lists spamtraps, then the likely culprits are auto-responders or misdirected bounces (that is, bounce emails sent after acceptance of the email instead of being rejected by the server during the SMTP phase, which would include emails such as "no such user", "non-existent mailbox", and/or "quota exceeded"). If the blocklist only lists reports, you have a spammer at work. If the blocklist lists spam traps and reports, You have your firewall configured to allow a compromised machine on your network to spew to the world (you do have a firewall in place, don't you?) the SMTP/Auth exploit of an Exchange server is in progress, see these links: http://news.spamcop.net/cgi-bin/fom?file=372 http://www.winnetmag.com/article/articleid/40507/40507.html http://www.winnetmag.com/article/articleid/42406/42406.html How To Block Open SMTP Relaying and Clean Up Exchange Server SMTP Queues To prevent SMTP relaying with Microsoft Exchange Server (NOTE: While commonly seen on Exchange servers, this condition is possible on all platforms) Your PHP mailer program has been taken over by criminals. (You did not know that your PHP bulletin board had a very vulnerable mailer program on it?) ((You did not know that you had PHP installed and running?)) Please also see: How can I get removed from SpamCop's blocking system? John's explanation at John's revised post, for Why Am I Blocked FAQ Merlyn's explanation at FAQ Entry: Why is my email blocked? Post the IP address that is blocked in the Spamcop web forum or newsgroup. There are many knowledgeable people in the SpamCop groups who will help you figure out why and offer solutions. If you need to know what triggered the report from a spamtrap, contact SpamCop deputies via Web submission form. Only they can see what caused spam trap reports. Note this form is NOT for end users, but only for server administrators. Please see following for information for people who do not have a technical background. <a name="endu"></a> The rest of this FAQ is for people who do not run servers. For people whose email was returned Q: What does SpamCop do with my email? A: Nothing The Internet Service Provider (ISP) of the person, or business, you are sending email "To" is blocking email from your ISP's computers (servers), using a list provided by SpamCop. Your email doesn't pass through SpamCop's mail servers and SpamCop has no way of blocking or bouncing your email. In addition, the SpamCop email service uses the blocklist to "tag" incoming mail so that suspected spam is placed in a particular folder and that is the way the blocklist is intended to be used. Q: What is a blocklist? A: A blocklist helps ISP's to prevent spam coming to their customers. An ISP can use a blocklist (a list of IP addresses),to block (Reject) all email coming from a particular IP address. This rejection will cause your ISP to send you what is called a "bounce" message The blocking is based not on your email address (which looks like username[at]example.com), but on the IP address (which looks like 198.162.250.196). This IP address is assigned to the mail server you use, which is probably run by your ISP. You may share this same server with hundreds or thousands of other customers. If one of the other customers is sending spam through that shared mail server, it will cause the IP address of that mail server to be put on the blocklist. And when you send email through that server, ISP's who use blocklists to avoid receiving spam, will also block your email. SpamCop is one of many blocklists. DNS Blackhole Lists (DNSBLs) is a link to page that lists and categorizes a number of blocklists. Trying to describe the difference between spamcop & other lists (particularly the time it takes to get off the list) and how SpamCop can be an early warning system for ISP's is a bit difficult, as each is different in concept, targets, results ranges, and oversight. If more specific data is desired on other DNSBLs, please visit that listing site. Q: What is SpamCop? A: Unique, automated blocklist and spam filtering SpamCop has a program that will try to find the correct address to send a complaint because the email address you see that says who it is from is often forged by spammers. SpamCop uses the information in public internet databases that ISPs are supposed to put the correct information in to find the proper address and forwards complaints for its members. If a lot of reports are made, the IP address goes on the SpamCop blocklist that is used by many ISP's. for more detailed information on how Spamcop works see: http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/3.html Q: How do ISP's use SpamCop A: As 1) a warning that spammers have slipped by their defenses and 2) to block spam. 1) Responsible ISP's welcome SpamCop reports and will remove spammers quickly from their systems. 2)When they block emails, they send a message that looks like this: 451 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xxxx: or email from xxx.com blocked,refused by Spamcop,see http://www.spamcop.net Q: Why me? A: It Happens to the best of us It is annoying to have your email blocked. It is also annoying to have a backhoe interrupt email service. However, until the blocking problem is resolved, you can email people through a web based email service (the most familiar web based email services are hotmail and yahoo). After you have taken care of the immediate problem of being able to communicate with someone by email, the next step is to see what can be done so this inconvenience does not happen to you again. The one thing you do not want to do is to complain to those correspondents who are using an email service that uses the SpamCop blocklist. They probably really like the reduction in spam! You have the responsibility to see that your ISP provides you with reliable email service. See this link for a longer explanation of costs http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=660 Q: Who do I contact to correct this problem? A: Your ISP (email service provider) first Usually the ISP with the blocked IP address has also been notified with the evidence of spam reports. Your ISP may have already acted on the Spamcop report they have received by the time you call. It may just have been a mistake on their part or, possibly, the reporter's part. Reporters can be fined or banned for mistakes. As soon as your ISP stops the spam from being sent, or uses the procedures at SpamCop to point out the reporter's mistake, the IP address is taken off the blocklist (usually within 48 hours for spam; immediately for reporter error). It may be that your call is the first time your ISP has heard that SpamCop has listed your IP address. Listings are made, in addition to member reporting, automatically from spamtraps (an eMail address that is not used, nor published anywhere, so only gets eMail if someone is sending spam!). Your ISP can find out about SpamCop at http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/76.html if they don't already know about SpamCop. SpamCop deputies have access to the full evidence for a listing. Deputies can delist IP addresses which are listed in error. Q: My ISP says it's not their fault. A: People in this forum will help with information to give your ISP You will need to know your IP address for people to understand what has happened (it should be in the message you received telling you your mail was blocked). It is also helpful to know the reasons why it was blocked. (To do this, go to http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml. Make a note of the reason for the listing. For example "Been reported as a source of spam about 30 times" "Been detected sending mail to spam traps" as this is important) There are many people who will explain to you what has happened and what you can do. If you are interested in finding out more about blocklists and exactly why your email was blocked, you may post in the web forum SpamCop Blocking List Forum or in the SpamCop NNTP newsgroup news://news.spamcop.net/spamcop.help with the above information. Please remember that this block is not aimed at you personally. There are a limited number of IP addresses on the Internet, so you, and the spammer, may get a different one each time you log-on. Your Internet Service Provider is the only one who can investigate and take action to stop spam from coming from that IP address. In the meantime, the email service at the other end does not have to accept spam. If your email is coming from the same IP address, then the email service will not accept it either. Revised 25 August 2010 - character-set issues yet again Revised 18 April 2006 - updated List of DNSBLs link Revised 17 Feb 2005 - Clarification of non-SMTP-reject e-mail generation Revised 2 February 2005 Revised the time period of listing and added comment that there are two sections Miss Betsy Revised 26 Jan 2005 - Wazoo added some of WB8TYW's input - more to come <g> Revised 18 Nov 2004 - Wazoo added DNSBL List URL Revised 16 Nov 2004 - Wazoo - Ouch! newsgroup link fixed! Revised 2 Sep 2004 - Wazoo Revised August 7, 2004 - Miss Betsy, Wazoo, dbiel Edited per Wazoo comments March 6, 2004 rev March 7 rev Mar 8 for format (agsteele) Rev Mar11 with more links Rev Mar 12 with new John link rev 13 listized "Probable Causes" rev 14 consolidated some links rev 15 dbiel - worked on hyper links. They work fine in preview mode but when saved the code reverts to plain text. Note: html is currently not permitted in pinned posts No, problem is based on something else ..... Edit dbiel: It seems I was a bit too hasty, The problem is related to the permission level of the owner of this topic. Rev not working link - MB ______________________________________________________________ Contributors: Michaell, Mike Easter, Wazoo, Greenlady, John, JT, JeffG, WB8TYW changed contact address per RW's suggestion - Miss Betsy Link to archive regarding broken link: http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=6221[/url]
  14. Medium to large ISP’s pay a metered rate based on the amount of e-mail that they receive. To accept potential spam and filter it increases their costs. Current measurements are showing about two spam delivery attempts for every real e-mail, so accepting all email and then filtering triples their cash costs. Refusing (blocking) e-mail from networks that allow spam is the only way to avoid those costs. Most ISPs will use some sort of blocking to cut their costs. The faster a spam source can be identified, and the more spam blocked, the more money saved. We are talking thousands of dollars per month on this in most cases. If one ISP is not able to keep spam from coming from his server, why should a receiving ISP pay extra costs to separate the real e-mail from the spam? In most cases, it is shown that when a real mail server is blocked, the ISP controlling it has been receiving reports about the problem for at least a week. An ISP that provides 24 hour operation should have been able to stop a spam source in less than an hour after getting a report. A responsible ISP will have measures in place to prevent spammers from taking advantage of his network and will take quick action to stop spam from being sent if he is notified that a spammer slipped by. Eventually these costs will be reflected in the end user’s cost for email service. Who would want to pay more for email service so that they can delete half their email? End users should be glad that they have chosen ISP’s who will keep costs (and spam) down for them. Friends and businesses whose email is blocked should be horrified that they have asked someone to receive their email along with porn, body part enlarger emails, etc. and find an alternate way to email. A person would not accept an offline package if the carrier insisted that he also accepts several dirty, greasy packages crawling with bugs, would he? A person using that carrier would not insist either, but find another carrier.
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