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    Adjunct SpamCop Reporting Tools

    if thunderbird takes after firefox then, unless habul gets worked on, the tool will be useless since xul is being removed permanently. sorry to be the bearer of bad news BTW, I think I remember legolas... wasn't he also an abuse admin like afterburner and nyarlahotep?
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    forum spam handling

    I just had a brainfart (pardon my French)... Sooo, we have these pesky little 💩 that think that the readers of these forums are interested in their spew 🤮 Well, here is my proposal to alleviate the problem: Reported posts receive a mark/counter (see below: 1 reported...) Posts that are less than 24 hours old and reported more than 3 times get hidden (can be unhid[sic] by the user if he/she so desires) A user with a post reported 4 times would be prevented from posting in the forum (reading is ok, and pm an admin to ask for unblocking) Eventually a forum admin can do some garbage collection (GC) the way they usually do it this would be the forum view with all topics displayed (the two marked "4 reported" would be hidden by default) This would be the "Unread" topics view (hey, no spam but only if 4 reported them beforehand) in Content Types, the user could choose to see the spam (unless the forum admin already done the GC) Suggestions or ideas (or the other way around) are always welcome.
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    Reporting addresses bouncing?

    looking up the abuse.net db on mschosting .com shows the aforementioned list... https://www.abuse.net/lookup.phtml?domain=mschosting.com hostmaster and postmaster addresses are AFAIR quite old (10+ years) and often not used anymore... therefore the bounces. The tmcops address could be an old entry as well and it was never updated... There is also another possibility that all the addresses DO exist, but they have been either neglected or forgotten and the mailbox filled up and overflowed... ergo another bounce... Officially, APNIC lists noc-abuse for the mentioned IP address as the abuse address https://dnslytics.com/whois-lookup/110.4.46.157
  4. yeah, spamcop has a few issues with APNIC when looking up the addresses in ARIN. Unfortunately they are more than just a few 😞
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    Sendgrid reports dev'nulled?

    On a certain date, sendgrid probably asked SC not to send spam reports. On that date, or soon after, somebody manually devnulled the sendgrid abuse address. That date would be interesting to know, as well as the reason the address was devnulled. That's what Petzl means with perhaps someone with backstage access could shed some light, or clear up these murky waters 😉
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    SCBL Usage

    I’m there with Lking. Until these people post their junk, there is not knowing if they are going to spam or not. Besides, adding changes to the forum software would only work if the company that designed the system would implement the changes. (As was mentioned in my thread by Lking)
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    forum spam handling

    If I read this correctly: 10 members visited the forum; that is everybody that logged in/signed up(registered) (but not guests) to read and/or post (including me) 6 of the 10 have all been now banned for spamming and received a warning point (for posterity) this leaves 4 (including me and you) and 2 of them have not posted yet so who posted the other 6 spams? I am a bit confused... And according to what you say, there aren’t enough people around to mark the spam... bummer!
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    forum spam handling

    Oh dear, I think I created a monster 😉 I haven't been active recently. just been popping in occasionally (lately)... Anyway, back to the discussion: I do believe that the login in created by carbon entities who are promised a certain amount for every successful post approach 1) I think it's too complicated, as there are too many diverse systems floating around. approach 2) more likely, but still with the differences in the systems somewhat complicated to have bots do it right. although sometimes the resulting spam posts do seem incoherent at best. approach 3) is IMNSHO the most likely scenario. I think what they do is do some bookkeeping to receive their money, and that is what takes them so long in-between, and they probably have different forum systems open and jump from one to the other. Then, at the end, they copy and paste the spam into all the open forum posts they have in their batch. So let's say it's carbon entities and not silicon based bots. Side question: why isn't the advertised "By harnessing the combined knowledge of thousands of Invision Communities, our spam Defense can assess the potential threat of each new user and stop them before they can cause any problems. It's instant and free with all plans." not working? My original thought on marking them as spam by peers, hiding the post in default view after a certain amount of reports, would still be the most feasible option -- if the original developer could/would implement it, that is.
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    forum spam handling

    Apologies, but I do see a problem with that. I mean, this is a spam fighting forum, and if someone posts a question about a spam and the words include something that would be filtered, then the OP would have to wait until the admin frees it to the forum...
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    Ragged end of the internet

    WOW! wouldn't it have been easier for them to set up BPL? at least as redundancy? Internet: the final frontier. These are the enterprises of Telo. Its continuing mission: to communicate in strange new ways, to seek out new fiberoptic breaks and new dug-out holes, to boldly go where no internet has gone before. Besides, who needs the fiberoptics if you have Dilithium crystals. Just transmit and receive with subspace amplifiers... Live long and prosper nyuk nyuk nyuk 🙂
  11. went one up on my previous (2 month old) post looking at it's /18 range: https://whois.nic.ad.jp/cgi-bin/whois_gw?key=202.238.192.0/18 SC itself still returns " No reporting addresses found for 202.238.198.169, using devnull for tracking. "
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    No links, but wait, there is!

    I don't know why the links don't appear in the report. I see them both, in the text/plain part, as well as in the text/html part of course, I also don't know why you'd be getting spam in German... unless the spammer thinks you're in Austria 🤣 but yes, netops at singlehop dot net would be the place to send the link reports to. 3 of them are links, and one is an image...
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    forum spam handling

    well, it is very possible, that those 2 are legit, just found SC, and decided to sign up in the forum.
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    forum spam handling

    gotcha! we need a
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    forum spam handling

    today, as of 11AM CDT: 17 new members (listed under All Activity) (well, one from yesterday, but almost midnight) 12 of them posted 1 spam each 2 of them didn't post anything 3 had a post, but it didn't exist (Content Count: 1 post -- but nothing found) 28 new spams 14 of them from listed new members the other 14 from unlisted members but all created within 1 hour of the post (almost as if they deleted their own user themselves after posting...) and while I was busy during 1 hour while this post is sitting here, cleanup has started and is just about finished ( I need to rephrase this somehow... my post was sitting idle in the editor while I was busy doing other things. When I got back 1 hour later, I noticed that cleanup was being done.)
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    forum spam handling

    Completely agree, IP blocking is not an option. and don't forget china true, didn't realize that until you pointed it out Didn't know there were so few uf us. (if I'm on the tablet I don't report because I have to go into the post to report it. with the pc it's easier using the mouse hover) yeah, again needed that to be pointed out, but it would require several people to report the post to be hid, and as I mentioned, it wouldn't be unreachable, only marked as hidden, but anybody wanting to read it could still access it. wrt PITA; I know, that's why the ideas being thrown around. Now an undocumented, unmaintainable/chaotic, up the wazoo system is not exactly what I had in mind... (sorry, pun intended) hopefully, with input of good ideas and weeding out the bad, a winning system could be proposed for third party implementation
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    forum spam handling

    Hmmm... now here comes a thought... I know, still dangerous 😉 What if... there is/could be a way to check how old an email account is (when it was created) ... Serious Callers Only (yeah, been reading Iain Banks lately 😉) won't use throwaway (recently created) emails to sign up and post in SC (at least I don't think so) unless they are spammers... Of course, if I had my own mx/mail server, I would be using emails, new or old, but mostly with @mydomain.tld (historically that used to be done in usenet/newsgroups to ensure that scavenged addresses could be pinpointed to a certain usenet base (at least that's how I remember it from way back when 🙂 ) Aaaanyway, so spammer creates emails galore on gmail/outlook/protonmail/yandex/whatever and tries to sign up in forum. Forum says your email is too new, you need approval from admin to post new posts. I know, you mentioned before about legitimate users that want to post, but their email addresses (on the aforementioned big email houses) are usually long established. So the email address age would prevent this spammer from posting right away, and his address could be placed on the ban list for future attempts... Now, OTOH, spammer uses own @mydomain.tld addresses. Even if the address was new, he would be allowed to spam as before, but now, the domain could be blocked, and to buy domain names could turn out to be costly for this kind of spam shop... and then he would drop the domains and someone else, legit picks them up and has them already blocked here, so somewhat a timed block could be set in place, coinciding when the domain name expires Was busy today and didn't have time to report early but I did read your comments and explanations and agree that IP blocking wouldn't be productive. Now of course, the whole discussion is more or less moot point, since invision would have to implement all this and I have no idea how willing they are to make changes at this level... and if (as I mentioned) there could be a way to check big email house creation date of addresses... also, since SC forum deals with valid spam, a forum spamkiller would unfortunately throw too many false positives...
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    forum spam handling

    Well, I don’t know about the forum spams being marked as spam in gmail since I only read them in SC. (Anyway, if you receive them as emails, then you should be able — as I do with other email forums — to mark them as never send to spam, and just delete the ones that are “offensive”, as forum emails come from the forum and not from the person sending them...) Ah, but automated mistakes are also bad. That’s the reason SC uses human decision to ultimately report the processed spam... ... of course this would be “semi-automated”, as the automation process would start as soon as 3 or 4 humans decided to mark the post as “spam” (only possible in SC online forums) The Latin phrase for that is “errare humanum est” (to err is human), and I have informed the admin “in situ” of a few odd misdirected posts (fat fingering and lack of caffeine are usually the reasons 🤫) Well, as Lking already explained: I figure, since the “spam-poster” needs an email account to sign in, these people have tons of throwaway addresses, since they can only use them once. (I am curious on how many addresses use the same domain, and thus prevent them, depending on the domain they use, to even create a SC account. Of course, if they use throwaway gmail, yahoo, hotmail, et.al. accounts, that wouldn’t be feasible...)
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    forum spam handling

    Well, my idea wasn't to thwart the spammers... (ok, in a way it is 😛) Instead, it would be meant to keep the forums "readable" after 3 or 4 users have reported the posts. They'd still be there if one really desires to read them, but they'd be hidden until they get handled by an admin. personally, they don't bother me (much), but I see the occasional OP who mentions the garbage in the forums (fora, fori, forii, whatever) and /me thinks/ (dangerous thing BTW) that there could be something that could be done besides one or two admins cleaning up garbage left by some 💩es... Usually we don't get much. It seems that today, though, is a different matter... some "recruiter" must have promised a lot of 💵 to some poor souls... That's actually my idea behind it. Have as few spamposts as possible visible to users, and I think that could accomplish it (I'm sure there are some of us users that report those spams, and if it's just 3 or 4 per post it would do the trick...) Just my thought... and then Lking could even enjoy his carb-sugar-caffeine drink in a more leisurely manner
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    no reporting for IP 109.94.2.125

    If I query ARIN, I am told it’s a RIPE address... and the abuse email address given, ending in “.ru” does not help my confidence in its trustworthiness... I apologize to all honest Russians, but living here in the Americas leaves me with little trust in Russian owned web addresses. In God I trust, but not in Товарищ владимир и собрат дональд
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    spam via VPN

    Now that's a new one to me! https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6558965774z4e9bfbe926ede8ccf1c336a6fb42d396z I wasn't thinking much about it when I sent the report, but today I received the following reply from NordVPN abuse desk: well, internet privacy vs internet privacy. ain't that swell...
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    The problem against spam users.

    Around 20 years ago, I used to send my wife occasional emails that would look like she sent them to me, just to make sure that she understood that anybody could send an email with spoofed/fake names. So the From: line in the headers is only valid for “trusted” emails. (And then, only if you trust them ) As Lking states, the Received: line in the headers is the one that gets you closest to the original sender. Many times, though, a computer is hacked and some malware is installed, sending the spam from that computer without the knowledge of the real user. Sending spam reports to the ISP of said user is necessary to alert the ISP that the user is either a spammer or has compromised hardware. It is also possible that a company has their own mail server which is open and can be used as a proxy. For the latter, it is also important to have their ISP inform them that they are running an open proxy allowing spammers to abuse their system. HTH
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    Report Ends With "Parsing Header:"

    /me/ stands corrected. Thank you 😊. wasn’t aware that the headers could share importance with a DB file structure (mbox in this case)
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    Report Ends With "Parsing Header:"

    atchooly.... is there a reason why the first From line doesn't have a colon ":" From bounce@menshealth.com Mon Jul 8 01:35:59 2019 Return-Path: <bounce@menshealth.com> X-Original-To: x Delivered-To: x in my book, that would be a reason for failure...
  25. and so the G🦗H advances further to becoming a master 🙏 @gabrielt Glad you found the problem, and with it, also fixed an internal handoff problem with your qmail setup (malformed received line). (wish some big companies: -- with outlook and hotmail -- would fix theirs.... )
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