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  1. I have been seeing a lot of spam where the site is (mis)using DNS wildcards. This allows the

    hostname to change for every recipient (and possibly track the recipient from web logs or reports).

    In particular, it leads the SpamCop parser to state that there have been no recent reports, when I

    know that I have reported the same site in just the last few days.

    Two examples from this morning (same spammer - note identical DNS servers) are as follows

    (using "dig" to demonstrate the wildcarding):

    % dig '*.lijniahk.info' any [at]first.bubbalog.biz.

    ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> *.lijniahk.info any [at]first.bubbalog.biz.

    ;; global options: printcmd

    ;; Got answer:

    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 64849

    ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:

    ;*.lijniahk.info. IN ANY

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:

    *.lijniahk.info. 1200 IN A 65.203.151.193

    *.lijniahk.info. 1200 IN A 211.144.164.201

    *.lijniahk.info. 1200 IN A 200.157.21.204

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

    lijniahk.info. 1200 IN NS FIRST.bubbalog.biz.

    lijniahk.info. 1200 IN NS SECOND.bubbalog.biz.

    lijniahk.info. 1200 IN NS THIRD.bubbalog.biz.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

    FIRST.bubbalog.biz. 1200 IN A 65.203.151.192

    SECOND.bubbalog.biz. 1200 IN A 222.223.134.42

    THIRD.bubbalog.biz. 1200 IN A 211.144.164.201

    ;; Query time: 193 msec

    ;; SERVER: 65.203.151.192#53(first.bubbalog.biz.)

    ;; WHEN: Wed Jan 5 09:09:32 2005

    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 202

    --- AND

    dig '*.inflfffc.info' any [at]first.bubbalog.biz.

    ; <<>> DiG 9.3.0 <<>> *.inflfffc.info any [at]first.bubbalog.biz.

    ;; global options: printcmd

    ;; Got answer:

    ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 63501

    ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

    ;; QUESTION SECTION:

    ;*.inflfffc.info. IN ANY

    ;; ANSWER SECTION:

    *.inflfffc.info. 1200 IN A 65.203.151.193

    *.inflfffc.info. 1200 IN A 211.144.164.201

    *.inflfffc.info. 1200 IN A 200.157.21.204

    ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

    inflfffc.info. 1200 IN NS FIRST.bubbalog.biz.

    inflfffc.info. 1200 IN NS SECOND.bubbalog.biz.

    inflfffc.info. 1200 IN NS THIRD.bubbalog.biz.

    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

    FIRST.bubbalog.biz. 1200 IN A 65.203.151.192

    SECOND.bubbalog.biz. 1200 IN A 222.223.134.42

    THIRD.bubbalog.biz. 1200 IN A 211.144.164.201

    ;; Query time: 89 msec

    ;; SERVER: 65.203.151.192#53(first.bubbalog.biz.)

    ;; WHEN: Wed Jan 5 09:10:35 2005

    ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 202

    Thus each recipiant gets a unique hostname reported for the site, and the parser doesn't seem

    able to recognize them as the same!

    This *really* needs to be addressed quickly.

    P.S. only "FIRST.bubbalog.biz" current functions, neither "SECOND.bubbalog.biz." or

    "THIRD.bubbalog.biz." are `up' at this moment.


  2. Hi,

    ...

    So, my question is two-fold:

    (1) Specifically, is above.net a lost cause? Is there something I should know about them? Should I give up allowing them un-munged reports?

    -and-

    (2) In general, are there legitimate reasons for ISP's to refuse munged reports?  Perhaps a legitimate reason why they should demand to see the e-mail address of their accuser (me)?  Or would I be better off returning to my policy of never checking the box next to munged-report-refusers on my reports?

    All advice appreciated,

    Dan

    22376[/snapback]

    Above.net is/was Paul Vixie and certainly *IS* reputable. As one of the largest bandwidth providers

    in the world they have had (and do currently have) many unresolved spam issues. Just remember, these

    are/were the same people who operate (or at least founded) MAPS. IMNSHO, they can be trusted.


  3. This is what SpamCop is supposed to be doing when it can resolve the links, but I don't see much evidence that these sites go down.  Manually resolving the ISP's and domain registrars is more than I'm willing to routinely put into it and I'm not sure I can be more "accurate."

    22301[/snapback]

    It seems that you are `mostly' correct when the sites are in Asia or eastern Europe, but this

    particular fellow (the watch seller) seems to be in the British Isles - I'd expect the upstream

    provider to *eventually* pull the plug. The "manual" resolution usually takes about 5 seconds

    because I assume the name server is at the IP 202.102.230.36 - If that fails I try one or two

    other "known" DNS servers; After that, if I don't have an answer, it probably takes 1-2 minutes

    to run whois and test the listed name servers in parallel (but, I'm on a *nix box, so all this is pretty

    trivial - usually I can just "!ns:0-1" and two cut-and-pastes from an already open window; two

    seconds of work, two seconds of waiting and one second to cut-and-paste the result into the

    report). Admittedly, if either you run a MS based box (all the tools are there, but it is a *pain*)

    or are not an experienced "network nerd", it could certainly seem like too much effort. For example,

    my wife uses Linux about 8 hours a day at work - even still, it would take a half hour to explain, and

    until she understood the process well enough to account for the differences between her Linux at

    work and the mostly `BSD boxes at home, it would probably take several minutes each of the first

    couple of dozen times she would try (and I'm sure she isn't bothered enough to try - we get about

    10 attempts a week to send spam to her accounts, and about 8,000 to mine, though only about

    150-200 make it past the first llevel of filters, which gets them reported to SpamCop - last week

    two got all the way into my mail boxes (but the SpamCop blocklist was responsible for preventing

    about 350 at the first line of defense -- It is quites a ways down from the first filter I apply).


  4. Report to who? They are constantly floating the domains.  You seem the same sites ad infinitum, even when they are "resolved" and reported.

    22296[/snapback]

    Report them to the ISP who will pull the site, forcing them to move to a new ISP driving up costs. Also, report them to the registrar who will in many cases pull the domain (takes longer) - then "that" site is gone for good (until the next domain, again driving up costs and causing "down" time).


  5. I agree, but in the end, to what purpose?  As far as I know, the SCBL deals only with spam source, not spamvertized links.  Sending spam reports to these spammer controlled sites is pointless.  Reporting to 3rd parties involved with anti-spam prosecution might be of some value.

    22292[/snapback]

    One of the very few "good" points of CAN-spam, is that it presumes that the site is itself the spammer (as the old rule goes "follow the money"). Most ISPs *will* shut down the spamvertized site if you report it.


  6. nice to see this explained.  Been getting tons of Rolex spam pointing to vanai.com, and always unresolvable.  Would be nice if SC could defeat this trick.

    22289[/snapback]

    Just over the Christmas holidays, he seems to have switched from mainly using

    202.102.230.36 to mostly using 202.102.230.37. (DNS still mostly at 202.102.230.36

    - when up -, but using domains/sites at 202.102.230.37).


  7. In the part few days, several spam messages have contained web sites with multiple 'A' records in

    their DNS. The SpamCop parser seem to only report/track the first one found, This reduces the

    number of reports for a address by the number of distict 'A' records.

    Example:

    % nslookup -type=any www.substations.nbikgebj.info first.nokkauma.biz.

    Server: first.nokkauma.biz.

    Address: 65.203.151.193#53

    Name: www.substations.nbikgebj.info

    Address: 222.223.134.42

    Name: www.substations.nbikgebj.info

    Address: 202.102.230.37

    Name: www.substations.nbikgebj.info

    Address: 65.203.151.192

    and for tracking purposes, in the part few minutes:

    http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z707174640z33...0889565379a063z

    http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z707174792z84...04c9c45a8da10cz

    http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z707174870zc0...cecc1ac3f8033bz

    Note some others have had as many as 6 'A' records (they are distict servers, but seem to contain

    the same "pages" - also, not always are all of the 'A' valid or "up")


  8. Comparison: from here  www.spamcop.net -> a369.g.akamai.net [64.86.101.39]

    StevenUnderwood .... www.spamcop.net = a369.g.akamai.net [199.232.159.244]

    get-even ................... www.spamcop.net = a369.g.akamai.net [209.247.88.168]

    The top two appear to be working just fine.

    21799[/snapback]

    Recurring Problem. (it started working again after about 5 minutes).

    % telnet www.spamcop.net 80

    Trying 166.90.133.200...

    Connected to a369.g.akamai.net.

    Escape character is '^]'.

    HTTP/1.0 408 Request Time-out

    Server: AkamaiGHost

    Mime-Version: 1.0

    Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:40:38 GMT

    Content-Type: text/html

    Content-Length: 163

    Expires: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:40:38 GMT

    <HTML><HEAD>

    <TITLE>Request Timeout</TITLE>

    </HEAD><BODY>

    <H1>Request Timeout</H1>

    The server timed out while waiting for the browser's request.<P>

    </BODY></HTML>

    Connection closed by foreign host.

    Fatal error in process.


  9. This morning, while the forums work just fine, www.spamcop.net is *almost* unreachable. It pings,

    and once (of a dozen attempts) I got a partial page, but all other attempts to confim spam result in

    the errors "Gateway Timeout The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server."

    and a direct telnet gives (after about two minutes, the "connect" is immediate):

    % telnet www.spamcop.net 80

    Trying 209.247.88.168...

    Connected to a369.g.akamai.net.

    Escape character is '^]'.

    HTTP/1.0 408 Request Time-out

    Server: AkamaiGHost

    Mime-Version: 1.0

    Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:39:08 GMT

    Content-Type: text/html

    Content-Length: 163

    Expires: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 13:39:08 GMT

    <HTML><HEAD>

    <TITLE>Request Timeout</TITLE>

    </HEAD><BODY>

    <H1>Request Timeout</H1>

    The server timed out while waiting for the browser's request.<P>

    </BODY></HTML>

    Connection closed by foreign host.


  10. Thanks for that explanation.  I'm also frustrated by having the parser fail to resolve perfectly valid links in much of the spam I report.  For example, for the past week I've seen the parser output text like this:

    Cannot resolve http://glee4me.com/soft/

    Tracking link: http://glee4me.com/rr.php

    No recent reports, no history available

    ...and the spammer site works perfectly well.  I occasionally figure out the proper abuse address myself, with tools such as dig and geektools whois, but that sorta defeats the purpose of why I pay for and use this spamcop account; i.e. to identify these things more efficiently.

    -Alex

    21779[/snapback]

    Like most of the similar spam in the last few weeks, this refers to a site at IP 202.102.230.36.

    % nslookup -type=any glee4me.com 202.102.230.36

    Server: 202.102.230.36

    Address: 202.102.230.36#53

    glee4me.com

    origin = ns1.hckdnc.com

    mail addr = hostmaster

    serial = 2004084285

    refresh = 3600

    retry = 3600

    expire = 3600

    minimum = 3600

    glee4me.com nameserver = ns1.hckdnc.com.

    glee4me.com nameserver = ns2.hckdnc.com.

    glee4me.com nameserver = ns3.hckdnc.com.

    glee4me.com mail exchanger = 0 127.0.0.1.

    Name: glee4me.com

    Address: 202.102.230.36

    There are "at least" 632 domains hosted at this site, all of which appear to send "bulk" email,

    though a few (about one or two dozen) *might* be legitimate. Also, *at least* 300+ of them

    (probably all, I haven't check them all *yet*) have either bogus MX records (point at 127.0.0.1

    or invalid 'whois' data or both.

    I've been able to catch and filter most by adding some new "uridnsbl", "uridnsblsub" and

    "uridnsblsub" rules to my local Spamassassin. I don't know of any other method since all of

    this spammer's emails (i.e. the set of domains at 202.102.230.36) seem to send all his UCE

    through open relays or proxies (and he's quite good at finding new ones). Checking the URIs

    against bogusmx.rfc-ignorant.org seems to catch most of them for me.

    Notice also, this domain is only two days old. And it is probably some other spammer's joke, but

    the domain contact's email is " ralsky[at]BonBon.net" (it probably isn't Alan Ralsky, I doubt even he

    has that much audacity).


  11. I think I overloaded the Yahoo mail server (it started sending '450' mailbox full try again messages back,

    but they were all eventually originally dekvered or resent and delivered).

        Anyway, for hotmail.com - 489 accounts, 1637 domains.  No list as this board doesn't seem to take

    messages that large (BTW. Hotmail's "abuse[at]" account seem to be working again -- another story, but

    I've been talking to long time - both [at] Microsoft and knowing me - contacts at MS about clearing up

    the rfc-ignorant.org issues for hotmail and msn -- Notice: they keep microsoft.com *perfectly* clean).

    21728[/snapback]

    Three different types of responses from MS. Examples of all three below (Note all messages were

    iidentical: except for the account and domain name(s) -- How MS decides to bounce, assign to

    abuse[at]hotmail.com or to abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com is entirely beyond me; I'll call some MS

    people and ask them to check. Still looks like "no response" expected.

    NOTE: The third message state *NOT* to mail to "abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com" - I used the address

    \""MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>\" for everything.

    ---------------------------------------------- Type 1 -------------------------------------------------------------

    From abuse[at]hotmail.com Wed Dec 22 23:10:29 2004

    Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:10:14 -0500 (EST)

    To: ??????????[at]?????????????

    From: MSN Hotmail <abuse[at]hotmail.com>

    Subject: Commercial Use of [a_mistercamiling[at]hotmail.com]

    MIME-Version: 1.0

    X-Originating-IP: [65.54.241.181]

    Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1

    Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit

    This is an auto-generated response designed to let you know that our system received your support inquiry and a Support Representative will review your question and respond to you soon. Please note that you will not receive a reply if you respond directly to this message.

    Thank you for contacting MSN Hotmail Support.

    Remember that MSN Hotmail also has comprehensive online help available--just click "Help" in the upper right corner.

    ---------------------------------------------- Type 2 -------------------------------------------------------------

    From daemon Wed Dec 22 23:11:37 2004

    Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:37 -0500 (EST)

    From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON>

    To: ??????????

    MIME-Version: 1.0

    Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;

    boundary="iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/?????????????"

    Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details

    Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

    This is a MIME-encapsulated message

    --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/?????????????

    The original message was received at Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0800 (PST)

    from ??????????[at]localhost

    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----

    MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>

    (reason: 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for abuse[at]hotmail.com)

    ----- Transcript of session follows -----

    ... while talking to mx2.hotmail.com.:

    >>> DATA

    <<< 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for abuse[at]hotmail.com

    550 5.1.1 MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>... User unknown

    <<< 554 5.5.2 No valid recipients

    --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/?????????????

    Content-Type: message/delivery-status

    Reporting-MTA: dns; ?????????????

    Arrival-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0500 (EST)

    Final-Recipient: RFC822; abuse[at]hotmail.com

    Action: failed

    Status: 5.7.1

    Remote-MTA: DNS; mx2.hotmail.com

    Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for abuse[at]hotmail.com

    Last-Attempt-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:37 -0500 (EST)

    --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897?????????????

    Content-Type: message/rfc822

    Return-Path: <??????????>

    Received: (from ??????????[at]localhost)

    by ?????????????(8.12.11/8.12.11) id iBN7BYgY016714

    for MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>; Wed, 22 Dec 2004

    23:11:34 -0500 (EST)

    Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:11:34 -0500 (EST)

    From: XXXXXX X XXXXXXXXX <??????????>

    Message-Id: <200412230711.iBN7BYgY016714[at]????????????>

    To: MSN Hotmail Technical Support <abuse[at]hotmail.com>

    Subject: Commercial Use of [bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com]

    MSN [Hotmail] Technical Support Personnel,

    Your user bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com registered or is a listed Registrant,

    Administrative or Techical contact for [and spammed] commercial

    domain(s) in violation of the Term "Unless otherwise specified, the

    MSN Sites/Services are for your personal and non-commercial use"

    of your "MSN Terms of Use" per your page http://privacy.msn.com/tou/.

    *** Domain Name(s) -- Registrant/Contact email(s)

    Domain Name: allwealthproductplace.com - bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com bpagatpat_mr[at]h

    otmail.com

    Domain Name: greatshopforbuyers.com - bpagatpat_mr[at]hotmail.com bpagatpat_mr[at]hotm

    ail.com

    Please enforce that Term.

    Thanks and Best Regards,

    XXXXXX X XXXXXXXXX

    ??????????[at]?????????????

    --iBN7BbgX015290.1103785897/?????????????--

    ---------------------------------------------- Type 3 -------------------------------------------------------------

    From abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com Wed Dec 22 23:23:43 2004

    X-Originating-IP: 10.251.84.153

    Thread-Topic: CST182816626ID - Commercial Use of [a_mistercamiling[at]hotmail.com]

    X-Mailer: Microsoft CSS 2000

    X-CSSTicketID: 0

    thread-index: AcTov9EvH4FqC7itSbirwJdIAsojVQ==

    From: "MSN Hotmail Support" <abuse[at]css.one.microsoft.com>

    To: < ??????????[at]?????????????>

    Cc:

    Subject: RE: CST182816626ID - Commercial Use of [a_mistercamiling[at]hotmail.com]

    Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:20:01 -0800

    MIME-Version: 1.0

    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D9_01C4E87C.C30EC3D0"

    Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message

    Importance: normal

    Priority: normal

    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.132

    X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Dec 2004 07:20:01.0980 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1392FC0:01C4E8

    BF]

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

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  12. Excellent!  If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far!I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide.

    21681[/snapback]

    I think I overloaded the Yahoo mail server (it started sending '450' mailbox full try again messages back,

    but they were all eventually originally dekvered or resent and delivered).

    Anyway, for hotmail.com - 489 accounts, 1637 domains. No list as this board doesn't seem to take

    messages that large (BTW. Hotmail's "abuse[at]" account seem to be working again -- another story, but

    I've been talking to long time - both [at] Microsoft and knowing me - contacts at MS about clearing up

    the rfc-ignorant.org issues for hotmail and msn -- Notice: they keep microsoft.com *perfectly* clean).


  13. Excellent!  If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far!I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide.

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    Complaints sent to Yahoo: 826 accounts, 2706 domains. I greatly underestimated the amount of

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    Doma


  14. [...

    And yes, many (Enom comes to mind) ignore the issue

    ...

    21685[/snapback]

    And of course forget about any response from Yesnic, Gandi, Wildwestdomains, Afilias,

    Parava.net or Stargateinc (these are either "spam-friendly" or owned by actual spammers

    (like many of Enom affiliates are the actual spammers, and Enom delegates the "responsibility"

    to them to delete themselves... yea)

    Still, with pressure, nearly every US or Canandian registrar will act (you often have to provide

    evidence of fraud (ex. fake headers), and CC: everyone from the FTC to the Internic (who ignores

    complaints except for statistical purposes *or* if you show fraud).

    P.S. Bulkregister should also be commended for their "NSxxx.NO-LONGER-VALID.COM" entries.


  15. Just remember that this is a two step process.  You get the address disabled then complain to the registrar that the address in the registration is invalid.  The registrar is supposed to then disable the account, but that does not always happen either (spam friendly registrars).

    21684[/snapback]

    http://wdprs.internic.net alone usually doesn't work, but with a phone call (and without fraud, the

    recommended ICANN period is 15 days - Network Solutions takes 45+, other registrars have acted

    within 10 days) -- Yes, **been there** myself already (many hundreds of domains gone) - hence

    "begine (sic-typo) the process". And yes, many (Enom comes to mind) ignore the issue, others

    like Joker, suspend the account, but leave the DNS records up so the domain can continue to

    function. IMO GoDaddy's NS1.SUSPENDED-FOR.spam-AND-ABUSE.COM and NS2... are the

    best solution; Network Solutions' common simple delete is the worst as the spammers can re-register

    after a month and recover `some' of the value. Bestregistrar's "TERMINATED" is a good middle ground

    (keeps the domain from being used or re-used).


  16. Excellent!  If you can compare the email addresses up with the domains and plug them into the following scripts, you'll go far!I believe the Yahoo! Terms of Service apply worldwide.

    21681[/snapback]

    Be done toight (just a little egrep/sed/sort to the raw data - collected, probably 200K+ lines of

    raw whois data on active in the past month spam domains - amazing what you can find easily)

    I also have 489 hotmail.com accounts. How about lycos.com or gmail (far fewer of them).?

    Just Yahoo (if worldwide) and Hotmail alone should (begine the process to kill about 700-1500

    of these spam domains (depends on number of distinct contact/registrant emails in each domain

    and the fact that most of these email addresses are used for multiple domains).


  17. One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right?[...

    , exploiting that customer's Yahoo! I.D. and Email portions of their Service for commercial purposes in violation of Term 10 of their Yahoo! Terms of Service at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ .  I just filed a report of that violation.

    21676[/snapback]

    Here's a quick list of 778 currently active yahoo accounts being used for registrant or contact emails

    on "known" spam domains (I have another 1829 at international "Yahoo"'s). With a little work, I'll make

    up a scri_pt to pair these (just a raw list or 40K lines of whois data) with domains and report them.

    For now, the list is:

    112244[at]yahoo.com

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    airportmail123[at]yahoo.com

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    alenbrog[at]yahoo.com

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    all_the_house[at]yahoo.com

    allgoods_erdwards[at]yahoo.com

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    amonashmi[at]yahoo.com

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    apply_next[at]yahoo.com

    applyforhome[at]yahoo.com

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    athingvn[at]yahoo.com

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    zipperlious[at]yahoo.com


  18. One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right?

    21662[/snapback]

    I personally have no proof any of these domains ever "spam"'d.

    21670[/snapback]

    You don't need any. Their customer cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com registered commercial domains magnitudeofborrowing.com,

    ...

    i mailerisasuper.com, russents.com, and searchoem.com, exploiting that customer's Yahoo! I.D. and Email portions of their Service for commercial purposes in violation of Term 10 of their Yahoo! Terms of Service at http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . I just filed a report of that violation.

    21676[/snapback]

    This is a *very* powerful tool to use; I had no idea of Yahoo's policies. Thanks! Do you know about

    the various international "yahoo"'s (e.g. yahoo.com.cn or yahoo.es in particular) or whether any of the

    other "free services" (e.g. hotmai.com, gmail.com, lycos.com, etc.) have similar policies?


  19. One or more of you reported this to abuse at yahoo.com, right?

    21662[/snapback]

    I personally have no proof any of these domains ever "spam"'d. They have just been collected by my

    tools searching for another spammer (P.S., I think I have another 20 domains with that registrant that

    I've found by now, tool has been seraching "interesting" domains associated with my quarry, for days;

    It doesn;t help that many spammer registrars "whois" servers timeout and/or hang often - also, I'm always

    bumping the registrars daily limits for queries - note that the tool which collected most of the domains in

    the list I gave had only made it through a test list of 500 domains through the digits and upto the letter 'i',

    the serach from 'j' to 'z' still isn't complete).


  20. On the other hand, the second one actually resolves ... but it took almost 2 minutes ... normal process time for such a  look-up would be in the milli-seconds ... so as far as the SpamCop parser goes, it's as if there was no response (possibly one of those that may have parsed after doing a refresh ..??

    12/15/04 23:20:29 dig www.ullgetit.com [at] xxx.xx.xxx.xx

    Dig www.ullgetit.com[at]ns2.standardtechs.com (202.99.172.143) ...

    Authoritative Answer

    Recursive queries supported by this server

    Query for www.ullgetit.com type=255 class=1

      www.ullgetit.com A (Address) 221.5.250.105

      ullgetit.com NS (Nameserver) ns1.standardtechs.com

      ullgetit.com NS (Nameserver) ns2.standardtechs.com

      ns1.standardtechs.com A (Address) 202.99.172.143

      ns2.standardtechs.com A (Address) 202.99.172.143

    Dig www.ullgetit.com[at]ns1.standardtechs.com (202.99.172.143) ...

    Authoritative Answer

    Recursive queries supported by this server

    Query for www.ullgetit.com type=255 class=1

      www.ullgetit.com A (Address) 221.5.250.105

      ullgetit.com NS (Nameserver) ns2.standardtechs.com

      ullgetit.com NS (Nameserver) ns1.standardtechs.com

      ns1.standardtechs.com A (Address) 202.99.172.143

      ns2.standardtechs.com A (Address) 202.99.172.143

    Dig www.ullgetit.com[at]xxx.xx.xxx.xx ...

    Non-authoritative answer

    Recursive queries supported by this server

    Query for www.ullgetit.com type=255 class=1

      www.ullgetit.com A (Address) 221.5.250.105

      ullgetit.com NS (Nameserver) ns2.standardtechs.com

      ullgetit.com NS (Nameserver) ns1.standardtechs.com

    Check the ROSKO listings at spamhaus. Standardtechs.com, dns25.com and dns30 are iMedia's

    NL registered DNS servers. They bounce between eastern europe and China, and go into "stealth"

    mode (DNS30.com was the first known case). The iMedia list of domains registered in the Netherlands

    using the name "Manon Alu" and email "support[at]wrcash.com" includes at least the following domains

    (of which "standardtechs.com", "dns25.com", dns30.com" provide DNS services - note, recently the

    domain "d0tcomde.com" hosted in Chile has also been used to serve the same domains, and also at least

    one "customer" is using servers in the domain "wantpromotion.com", which is hosted in the same net

    block as "standardtechs.com" today ). NOTE: all the DNS servers play both the rotation and stealth games.

    The iMedia Netherlands domains - all with the same registrant - include (at least):

    adipren11.com

    adipren12.com

    adipren13.com

    baby30.com

    baby33.com

    diet31.com

    diet32.com

    dlz-withu.net

    dns25.com

    dns30.com

    enhancemefast3.com

    enhancememore.com

    standardtechs.com

    wrcash.com


  21. whois -h whois.yesnic.com magnitudeofborrowing.com ...

    Domain Name : magnitudeofborrowing.com

    ::Registrant::

    Name      : Carol Brisbine

    Email     : cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com

    Address   : 6059 Jane Dr.,

    Zipcode   : 44060

    Nation    : US

    Tel       : 315-775-6301

    Fax       : 315-775-6301

    Other domains also registrered to "Carol Brisbine" / cbrisbine_w[at]yahoo.com

    200womenwhohave.com

    230thatmigrates.com

    accreditedbythe.com

    afteryousubmit.com

    already-have.com

    alsoxls.com

    anantennathatcreates.com

    approvalofthefirst.com

    approvedmeasure.com

    aresubjectto.com

    basedpotato.com

    beautomatically.com

    borrowingwilllet.com

    dslispnx.com

    endtheirpostelection.com

    euroame.com

    farmersfound.com

    forward-ing.com

    foundtheinjured.com

    fourwomenwho.com

    havebeenremovedand.com

    holdsthestatus.com

    hunterswhosaid.com

    improvementsinsexual.com

    inexhibit.com

    insidesell.com

    istherefore.com

    lastnamename.com

    mailerisasuper.com

    russents.com

    searchoem.com

    and certainly more still I don't already have listed (I've ignore those already suspended or deleted).

    (Wazoo edited this post, removing 90% of the quoted part, snipping down to just the pertinent details)


  22. Good news!  The .com nameservers A.GTLD-SERVERS.NET thru M.GTLD-SERVERS.NET no longer know about magnitudeofborrowing.com, so it can not currently be used to support URLs used in spam.

    21552[/snapback]

    Sorry, just *stealth" DNS server (as mentioned in another thread.

    % env TZ=UTC date

    Tue Dec 21 06:18:26 UTC 2004

    % nslookup -type=any magnitudeofborrowing.com 221.11.133.63

    Server: 221.11.133.63

    Address: 221.11.133.63#53

    Name: magnitudeofborrowing.com

    Address: 221.11.133.68

    magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns1.realdnssystem.com.

    magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns2.dfdhosting.com.

    magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns3.autonameservers.com.

    magnitudeofborrowing.com nameserver = ns5.tpthosting.com.

    magnitudeofborrowing.com

    origin = ns1.managednameservers.net

    mail addr = hostmaster.magnitudeofborrowing.com

    serial = 2004121701

    refresh = 300

    retry = 300

    expire = 300

    minimum = 300

    % nslookup -type=any ns2.dfdhosting.com ns2.dfdhosting.com

    Server: ns2.dfdhosting.com

    Address: 222.51.91.245#53

    ** server can't find ns2.dfdhosting.com: SERVFAIL

    % nslookup -type=any dfdhosting.com ns2.dfdhosting.com

    Server: ns2.dfdhosting.com

    Address: 222.51.91.245#53

    ** server can't find dfdhosting.com: SERVFAIL


  23. I also am getting tired of adding the proper resolution of web sites to the comments in reports (it

    takes up far too much time and nobody at spamcop seems to have figured out the "trock" being used).

    Quite simply, this "trick" seems to have been first used by Michael Lindsay on DNS30.com about

    a month ago. I like to call it "stealth DNS servers. The concept is very simple:

    1) The spammer brings up the serverwith it serving the domain it resides within (example -

    "202.102.230.36" will server authriatative records for "hckdnc.com").

    2) The spammer then `seeds' many large ISP and backbone servers by doing queries on his own

    domain (example "% nslookup -type=any hckdnc.com ns1.hckdnc.com"). This loads the large

    ISPs name servers caches with non-authoriative data - but *good enogh* for his purposes.

    3) The server now stops providing any DNS service for his own domain (i.e. no authoriatative

    records are available, attampts to resolve the domain directly at the name servers listed in the

    "whois" database(s) will now fail. However, other domains served by the same machine at the

    "stealth" hostname *will succeed", because they don't require any authoitative records for the name

    server itself (example "ns1.hckdnc.com" is the listed - in "whois" - server for "getthatpills.com",

    a simple lookup for "getthatpills.com" will suceed, but insisting on authoritative data will fail with

    either a "** server can't find hckdnc.com: NXDOMAIN" or "no servers can be reached" message).

    4) spam away while the TTL is valid.

    5) End the spam run, allow a few hours for reports to blacklists and ISPs reports to filter up, then

    loop back to step 1.

    My guess is that the failure to obtain authoritative records for the intermediate DNS server's domain

    is the problem. This should be easy to check and if so simply allow the software to `fall-back' to trying

    to use/obtain non-authoritative records from a few cooperating `large' DNS sites or even fallback to

    using "whois" data for name server addresses (when and where available).

    The best example of this technique being used currently is by IPs 202.102.230.35 & 202.102.230.36

    serving the DNS domains previously mentioned on this thread (and their "watch hawker" customer,

    who has used the same method directly on websites for bhex.com, cahla.com and vanai.com among

    others). This particular spammer is using this method for at least the domains "hckdnc.com", "peiman.biz

    "dns4432.com", "dns55789.com" (at a different IP address), "manzan88.com", "gtnic.com", and

    "muaisen.biz"" and probably many others.

    It is currently being used by many sites (some may be Ralsky, some Ibragimov, definately Lindsay/iMedia

    and others). It is spreading quickly (though most sites using it are blocked by the SBL already).

    *** THIS IS NOT ROTATING DNS - IT IS A "NEW" TRICK ***

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