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    Is it really doing any good?

    personally, I still wonder about the effectiveness of reporting. sure, it does SOME good, but I just don't get any feedback that it really matters, other than a bunch of loyalists who tout that it does help. I have stated previously that I have been reporting for over three years, probably closer to 5, and in that timeperiod I have received maybe a handful of replies from ISP's regarding my reports. meanwhile I still see the same basic offender ISPs over and over in my reports. it can become very frustrating thinking that these sys admins may not care at all and are simply routing my reports to the trash and never actually acting on the reports... sigh...
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    Slow Reporting

    it's monday. SC is ALWAYS slow on monday.
  3. the vicar

    Is it really doing any good?

    that still doesn't help seriously, It is clear that the reports are only as valuable as those recieveing them treat them. it seems pretty obvious to me (as Underwood states) that reporting alone won't do it. I believe underwood has answered my question. it IS a waste of time to report if one simply expects to see some sort of drop in spam at their email box. "SpamCop is the premier service for reporting spam. SpamCop determines the origin of unwanted email and reports it to the relevant Internet service providers. By reporting spam, you have a positive impact on the problem. Reporting unsolicited email also helps feed spam filtering systems, including, but not limited to, SpamCop's own service. " When I first saw that statement over 4 years ago, it lead me to BELIEVE it would help. we'll obviously it's helped, but not directly to me. I guess I just need to stop reporting all these ISP's that continually come up as they ignore the reports, or to just stop wasting my time reporting. Mr. Underwood, the IMPLICATION is there. I guess I'll go with some COTS program to stop spam and keep my existing email accounts.
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    Is it really doing any good?

    wazoo, thanks for the the reply. I don't know how you find the time to do all the work you do in this forum, I certainly have never seen such a place where an "admin" does so much work to keep the place organized and following the rules. having said that, my issue is plain and simple: I have been reporting for several years. I added several other email accounts to report simply to see if the level of spam ever drops. it hasn't. in addition, the SAME ISP's are the ones I report to: as I stated in previous portions of this thread. , yeah rr.com is one of them. I don't even get ANY acknolegments back for my spam reports, I cannot recall the last response I received. I guess the bottom line is SC helps, but it's not the sure fire answer. I am just a bit dismayed by that becase it touts itself as being a way to stop spam. well, only if you pay and get yet another email account from SC. I am sorry to see that reports obviously go ignored. all those china ISP's, obviously. I guess even legislation in the US won't help that tide of crap from outsie the country. my problem is it's a time issue. I can continue to spend my "spare" time reporting everything I get in the hopes it helps somehow, but I certainly do not have the time to put in that kind of effort. I actually started submitting manually to see if I could contribute to the cause, but then I noticed it didn't appear to be doing what I thought it was. as for ID'ing the thread, that would take some time. it was two or so years ago when I asked the same question and all I got back was snide resonses as though I had kicked someone's trike in the mud. there is a fine line between doing a process well and doing a process well and not accepting constructive criticism and being able to rationally discuss something technical with someone who isn't technical. noboy on the thread back then was able to do that, it was as though we'd blasphemed the SC gods that could do no wrong. I do not profess to understand the ether, I am just one of many who thought doing something might help but simply questioned the value of it all ot the individual. it appears this is a collective effort, which is appreciated, but the majority of the email users in this world simply do not have the time or effort to do manual reports day in and day out. I suspect I spend an hour a day, and I am wondering if I can continue when all it seems to be doing is getting worse. thanks for YOUR time and effort, when I was younger, I had such energy. now, its family and friends and school that fill my time.
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    Is it really doing any good?

    the irony of all this is, I actually started reporting spam from three other email accounts just to see if SC would make a difference after having this thread discussed on the newsgroup. the newsgroup folks panned the discussion there. nice to see nobody seems to care to hear that reporting may not actually be doing any good.
  6. the vicar

    To Report or Not Report

    how much time is suffiicient??? I have been reporting for FOUR YEARS and it hasn't helped MY spam level one bit! tell me again why I shoudl bother wasting my time doing this if it doesnt help me??? and OBTW, the same ISP's keep coming up (see the lounge thread "Is it really doing any good?, We keep reporting and reporting, but..."
  7. the vicar

    Is it really doing any good?

    you are not alone, trisha.
  8. the vicar

    Slow Reporting

    you think you got it bad, try sending them one at a time thru by email or the web site. that's what I have been doing for the last four years, which is why I question the whole process being effective at all. see the thread "Is it really doing any good?, We keep reporting and reporting, but..." in the lounge
  9. the vicar

    Is it really doing any good?

    thanks for the reply. your assumption is correct. submittals alone do not seem to be effective. I was lead to bleiev years ago when I first started to submit, that it would make a difference. I vowed to start supporting SC when I saw a change. but over time, I noticed that all the same ISP continue to allow spam to flow freely from their origins, and web sites hosting links seemingly ignored the fact that spammers were using their sites. well he last was obvious-duh, they're making $$$! and I expected foreign country ISP such as china would ignore the reports as well. I guess saying "ignore" is too lose a term. nobody replies to my reports anymore. haven't seena report response in at least a year, and I easily report 20-30 pieces of spam a day MINIMUM. most spam goes to a yahoo email account, of which I expected to be a target. sorta like viruses and microsoft. big targets are easy. but the interesting thing was the other accounts. the two excite accounts I report from have a steady stream of spam. a couple of pieces on friday-monday each day and virtually nothing mid week. same with my work email and my home ISP. I pretty much discount what my work ISP allows thru because at least they're using Postini... it's just frustrating. to volunteer all this time to reporting and to see no results. arg
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    Is it really doing any good?

    I have never been a paying member because I wanted to see results before I paid. obviously not many people seem all that interested in the ineffectiveness of the system, so either it's working for most everyone else or it's not reallya concern. I noticed that two-three years ago when I signed up for the email newsgroup and made a statement there about it. people said "give it time" and "trust the process" so I have, but its been three years from that point and four years altogether and I still see the same ISP's letting spam thru. am I simply missing the point of reporting ???
  11. the vicar

    Is it really doing any good?

    ok, youre ONE ISP. I get spam from 10-15 who are regular offenders. rr.com chinanet.com, cnc-noc.com, kornet.net, hanaro.com, bjtelecom.com, several variations of .cn's and .ru's... the occasional comcast and others I cannot recall at the moment. is it these isp's really don't care or are as porous as a strainer when it comes to preventing spam? do you reply to reports informing the reporter that you took action? I cannot recall the last time I got a report back saying that. I just wanna know it's REALLY making a difference, as it sure doesn't feel that way when I don't see a bit of difference in my in baskets...
  12. the vicar

    Slow Reporting

    I havent noticed any problems other than that wierd onein the other thread recently. speed seems to be the slowest on mondays (to be expected)
  13. the vicar

    Reporting Errors

    I saw this error once today as well. hit reload twice and eventually it got submitted.
  14. the vicar

    Is it really doing any good?

    I have been reporting spam received for six different email accounts on four different domains for almost four years. I keep seeing the same ISP's getting reports and yet I still see them being reported. and the level of spam never decreases on any of the domains. granted two are regular targets of spammers, Yahoo and Excite email accounts... but I even chanced ISP's two years ago on the main email account I used, and avoided submitting it to any places that might seel the address for email and even it gets occasional spam. does spamcop really work at all unless you subscribe to an email account??? how come I keep seeing the same chinese and domestic ISP's being reported? I'd love to undertsand why this doesn't seem to be working. I wish I had such confidence. 4 years into this and no change in sight. what good is SC REALLY doing??? i'll add one more thing to this. I NEVER get replies to my submittals. when I first started using SC four years ago, I got one or two every once in a while, but I have not seen hide nor hair of a response from an ISP in at least a year, probably more.
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