julie678

All is now sorted. I have ditched the old URL and set up a brand new one with Web Warehouse - all my email gets though without any problem and the support team are really helpful and polite. Blimey, a customer service team that do their job - shocker! ; )

Yes I'm in the UK... Oh God, does being a member so soon mean I've been blethering on?! Don't answer that... I'll have a look at PlusNet - thanks a lot for the heads-up.

I have a 'paid-up' account at Airpost.Net and I'll just use that in future. I'm worn-out! Thanks for all your help everyone.

When you say my ISP, do you mean my personal computer's ISP? I'm not using Outlook or Firefox, I'm using the web-based version of Gmail. Not sure if I've caught your drift on that, sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick. The people who I think are tagging and blocking my messages are the hosts of my URL, Freeparking. The problem with discussing the existance of any white lists with them is that if you submit a support request based on SpamCop then they say it has nothing to do with them and that I need to contact SpamCop. My worry with the blocking/tagging is that if I continue to use my Gmail address, the situation could arrive where my mail is sent to others with 'suspected spam' in the title which just doesn't look professional on the one hand and might be deleted by the recipient if it doesn't look 'friendly'. I'm trying to set up a business and so it has a financial relevance...

If you can't see the dictatablog site it's because I've set it that way currently as the site isn't completed yet. I can't blame Freeparking for that! Still, other than redirecting the URL and forwarding the mail (sometimes), there is nothing else it offers. If you ask because you wonder why I host it there, the answer is that I have a fair few URLs hosted with them and that I currently can't afford to move them all. I guess you get what you pay for!

Thanks for appreciating that I did try the FAQs first. Sorry you are having political issues with access to the servers - you must feel like you are bashing your head against a wall and I know a little how you feel! I understand now that SpamCop is not doing the blocking or adding spam messages but that is my receiving ISP. They are rather quiet this afternoon having spent all week telling me it's nothing to do with them what SpamCop do. I really think I have to change my email usage from Gmail which is a pain cos I've found it the best and easiest to use so far. I'm just annoyed that I'm sending an email to a URL that is also mine and a third-party is stopping it from arriving. A bit like posting yourself a letter using the Royal Mail and the postie nicking it en-route!

OK - yes the bodies get through. All happened as before. One got through 'normally', the second got through with a 'suspected spam' message in the title and the third (again from scribble) didn't get through at all.

I haven't done any tests with a body in. I'll do the same three accounts now, including a body and see what gets through. The ones that didn't get through were sent but didn't arrive back via the forwarding. I received no bounce messages. It has been largely immediately following a message that comes through with 'suspected spam' on it that the next message will not get through. Hope this makes some sense.

Yes, the above is all correct. In addition, after the initial 'suspected spam' message correctly forwarded to my scribble account - not much else will get through. For example, I just send three mails to test[at]dictatablog.com - from the same addresses I used this morning - 2 got through - 1 was treated normally, the second was given a 'suspected spam' message and the third (from my main 'scribble' account) did not get through. Over the past week I have sent a lot of test emails to the test[at]dictatablog.com address and only a few have got through, out of those, most have been tagged as spam. Thanks, Julie Edit: 2006/03/03 13:36 Jeff G. munged some data per Julie's request.

If you had said 'full copy of the error message including headers' then I would understand that you wanted the headers too. I am not a mind-reader Jeff. There was no body in my mail, it was a test from my Gmail account to my URL forwarding account. The mail service has been playing up and in addition to that, I have been receiving all tests back with spam messages in the header. I will attach the header and title of each of the 3 mails returned this morning: =========================================== Message 1 Header: X-Gmail-Received: d0b38458a646f5333b88129427a92a746712c235 Delivered-To: scribble[at]gmail.com Received: by 10.48.1.7 with SMTP id 7cs5097nfa; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.159.9 with SMTP id l9mr3617564qbo; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:17:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <scribble[at]gmail.com> Received: from mailforward.freeparking.co.uk ([72.1.201.140]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q13si473254qbq.2005.11.12.05.17.56; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 72.1.201.140 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of scribble[at]gmail.com) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from [64.233.182.203] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) by mailforward.freeparking.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52 #3 (Debian)) id 1EavGW-0007hb-0u for <test[at]dictatablog.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:17:56 -0500 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p46so188166nfa for <test[at]dictatablog.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:17:54 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=c7cZBj5+7+MZWzWM1GU+sw/sBgQ1d/JtTj49YnYo+ement1AI0Jdmr0UFzmr LezmxDPt+DzqYE8pxH91h8zHM2+ZEDbfFJuRsZErdl+wOpgzOA4/fZSKGxDl/ch diokem60ZsZuOyLkRiY/DGQkbU3R9FPgepSYxQi+Rk2aswk4= Received: by 10.48.239.2 with SMTP id m2mr156676nfh; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.1.7 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:17:54 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <489f74b10511120517i52c093efu479d69ab796fcee8[at]mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:17:54 +0000 From: Julie Davis <scribble[at]gmail.com> To: test[at]dictatablog.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner-Outbound: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-ACL-Warn: host is in a black list at bl.spamcop.net Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 Subject: [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from gmail 13.18 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 Title: [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from gmail 13.18 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 ======================================== Message 2 Header: X-Gmail-Received: 24879e1e4bc2fcce45a17c34c96038f98030b34e Delivered-To: scribble[at]gmail.com Received: by 10.48.1.7 with SMTP id 7cs5101nfa; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.193.9 with SMTP id q9mr690429qbf; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:18:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <neverwasadoor[at]googlemail.com> Received: from mailforward.freeparking.co.uk ([72.1.201.140]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e19si469216qbe.2005.11.12.05.18.30; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 72.1.201.140 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of neverwasadoor[at]googlemail.com) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from [64.233.182.203] (helo=nproxy.gmail.com) by mailforward.freeparking.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52 #3 (Debian)) id 1EavH3-0007yN-Vr for <test[at]dictatablog.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:18:30 -0500 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so221225nfe for <test[at]dictatablog.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:18:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=googlemail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EcKzNIjzzUhn/sK1redsEfi2WmCiFTMB4PR22gZQ+0S0/hVas7vKs5pER9Kt5 gvLgWe4GLnT5+pwuQgfdl6kEkKMCkfsSZihPOAkVZjqAYzUnhHgPe8zRqvfvW PiGeerrhJypD767ydu5exGqKQrVqfAgwZiFmJM5ughZAN367M= Received: by 10.48.229.10 with SMTP id b10mr166194nfh; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:18:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.234.1 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:18:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <bf253b310511120518j4f44d71eyed66893cdfc292eb[at]mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:18:29 +0000 From: neverwasadoor ~ <neverwasadoor[at]googlemail.com> To: test[at]dictatablog.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4106_22816869.1131801509135" X-Antivirus-Scanner-Outbound: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-ACL-Warn: host is in a black list at bl.spamcop.net Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 Subject: [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from neverwasadoor 13.18 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 ------=_Part_4106_22816869.1131801509135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_4106_22816869.1131801509135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline <br> ------=_Part_4106_22816869.1131801509135-- Title: [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from neverwasadoor 13.18 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 ========================================= Message 3 Header: X-Gmail-Received: a32e008d4d8629845bfef274a303596cb44ba80a Delivered-To: scribble[at]gmail.com Received: by 10.48.1.7 with SMTP id 7cs5108nfa; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.10.8 with SMTP id 8mr3590905qbj; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:19:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <eleanor.rigby[at]gmail.com> Received: from mailforward.freeparking.co.uk ([72.1.201.140]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z21si482564qbc.2005.11.12.05.19.20; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:19:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 72.1.201.140 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of eleanor.rigby[at]gmail.com) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from [66.249.82.206] (helo=xproxy.gmail.com) by mailforward.freeparking.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.52 #3 (Debian)) id 1EavHr-00083e-Iu for <test[at]dictatablog.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:19:19 -0500 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id t14so419964wxc for <test[at]dictatablog.com>; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:19:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nyN0B08gHn7cHKXxjt3HRpgaiTQRDkwkslWl/vVLFaSuw/LG5VP2vwm8SduT 3j7EoqnZVJEHRC82CfSm4j5oL/XooKGn37U8KYnWUVEuZ7mrlLZtVS0/CNJLi WA3DneYJpu7QlnB/RIaFwp7dMcMLJjWOWo+6nJevPME1RC/1Q4= Received: by 10.70.40.3 with SMTP id n3mr49746wxn; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.22.17 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:19:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7aae29180511120519p5aee0211r[at]mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:19:17 +0000 From: Julie Davis <eleanor.rigby[at]gmail.com> To: test[at]dictatablog.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner-Outbound: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-ACL-Warn: host is in a black list at bl.spamcop.net Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?66.249.82.206 Subject: [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from eleanorrigby 13.19 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?66.249.82.206 Title: [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from eleanorrigby 13.19 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?66.249.82.206 ============================== I hope this helps. The irony of all of this is that everything I have received from SpacCop today has been sent to my Gmail spam folder. Moderator edit: Long lines starting with "b=xxx" were 'touched' to resolve a display issue. Actual 'sample' posted had thee lines as one continous long string and this app stretched thngs out best it could .. inserted a couple of "returns"

The thing about this is that mine is the recieving URL - the fact that is is hosted by Freeparking means they are using SpamCop without my consent. I just want all mail sent to my URL to get through to me and for me to chose what is spam and what is not.

Thank you, that is exactly the problem. My problem is that I seem to be annoying everyone by just trying to get my mail 'cleaned' so I can send it without being treated as a spammer. When I took it up with Freeparking last week, this is what I recieved from 'Max' in their support: "We ask that you do not raise support requests to freeparking on this issue - we would only refer you to the blocking list maintainer." I guess my only option is to stop using Gmail - this is a problem in itself as it's my main email account and I've been using it for a couple of years. Thanks again for your time.

I didn't read the appropriate part of the FAQ because the pages wouldn't load which is why I posted here. Mine is the recieving URL and I do not use SpamCop. Does this mean that Freeparking.Co.UK (who host my URL) do use SpamCop? I have spoken to them about it and they have not told me that they are SpamCop customers, just told me to take any issues up with you. The same ISP sends all mail from this computer and it is repeatedly the Gmail mail that is treated as spam. Maybe it has been listed for a period for not fixing a basic problem, I don't know but I should be able to send my mail without it being treated as spam. I did follow the link in the previous answer and I do know that Gmail are aware of the problem.

Oh, I have a problem alright... [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from eleanorrigby 13.19 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?66.249.82.206 [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from neverwasadoor 13.18 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203 [*SUSPECTED spam*] test from gmail 13.18 Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?64.233.182.203

Thanks for the info. I have run AdAware on my computer and a scan disk in case there is a chance my machine is being used by spammers. I doubt this is the case though as iit is only anything that ends in Gmail that is being treated as spam by Spamcop. Airpost.net and Hotmail are getting through OK.