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  1. I just received this spam and manually applied it to SpamCop (spamcop.net) Hope the "Tracking URL" will help. https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6649444921z99fe2e4ed82404e339f14c6492a2f6c3z Question: Did this come from the internal site to where it was sent? ~O~
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    OVH.Net spam ?

    Just had to get my 50 bits in (inflation!). I use it, I hate it , but need it because it's how we have to conduct business now days - that is, the "Internet". I wouldn't call it "advance" because it's made human beings personal -stuff- the most sought after commodity on the Internet. It has created a desire; a real need and generates the tools for business and government to Stalk, Monitor, Record and Control people. (SMRC). The Internet is digital Heroin/Crack/Meth combined. The Internet brought hopes of tearing down borders, uniting people of all countries in joint efforts to rid poverty, better sources of food production, and a basic understanding between people (sans government and corporate controls). COVID-19(84) was a great opportunity for countries to rapidly analyze, disseminate, share and attack it globally. Instead, every country built walls around their privatized kingdoms, and always, each accusing the other of using the 'net to interfere and direct the other's state affairs. Google and ilk have reduced the WORLD-WIDE web into local-area classifieds in exchange for our rights to privacy. Facebook, Google. Microsoft ignore our basic humans rights and pimp us out to anyone with the $'s. Your last phrase ..."is highjacked by crazy, money-grubbing, jerkoff spammers." nails it. Almost 2 years after you made that comment, it's only gotten worse. The downside aside, there is some greatness in how medicine, surgery, advancements in science and medicine came about thanks to the Net. But at what costs? And in conclusion, there are circumstances where some have a great need to hide because they did the 'right thing', and Google, and cohorts want to sell that too. Just agree'n s'all ~o~
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    spam with no sender source? How is that?

    Just a note to say thanks - it's great having pro's explain things.
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    forum url have changed

    I just encountered the same link to nowhere. It doesn't do the Spamcop image any good to still have a dead link for almost a year since it was reported. The cause, in my experience, has not much to do with it. The link points to http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showforum=10 which is easy enough to fix. It happens when people move things around or rename without checking for links. The fix is to remove the "forums" before "index.php" so it looks like: [1] http://forum.spamcop.net/index.php?showforums=10 instead of [2] http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showforum=10 version 1 above will at least take the clicker to the main page of Forums. Or, if you want the clicker to go to the New Feature Request, that "10" in the original link, then use: http://forum.spamcop.net/forum/10-new-feature-request/ easy-peasy ~o~
  5. QUESTION: May I set up some anti-spam system using SpamCop on my hosted accounts via cPanel that will scan incoming email and mark and/or delete/report known spam? PRELUDE: Assume: there are 20 domains under a shared-hosting reseller account. Each domain has anywhere between 1 to 10 email accounts. each domain has it's own cPanel each has a email system (see Image 1 below) spam Filters is powered by Apache SpamAssassin™ Professional spam Filter is a separate charge many business-card size domains don't want to pay for. SUMMARY: As it is, there is a great amount of spam even with SpamAssassin set to 2.5. I know very little about automating SpamCop to detect, report, and delete spam on the server side; ego my question. I seem to remember being told that SpamHause, and Assassin both use SpamCop somehow. How? CONCLUSION: I would like to have SpamCop working via the server to delete known spam before it gets to the client email, and/or report spam known by client. ~O~
  6. Occasionally I get errors when manually posting. Then SpamCop (SC) says it's too old. Today is May 4. It was 0915Hrs when I posted the text copy of spam at SC. This account checked every 5 minutes for email. Out of 34 mail accounts I monitor, this is the only one that would be sitting at server not picked up for (I don't use web-mail). It is highly unlikely that it would sit on server for 6 minutes, let alone 6 days! This is a spam that sells PSD's (Personal Safety Devices AKA PPE) through China. I'm sure others have reported it, but... It was received on the server TODAY @ 0434HRs TODAY. It seems spammers are able to backdate their garbage, or hold it then send it a few days later to circumvent being caught. Could that be the case? If so, I'll not bother investigating China-only server-side dates. Thanks ~o~
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    SpamCop says it's too old, it's not

    Thanks any way.
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    SpamCop says it's too old, it's not

    Thanks. Now everyone will think you answered the question. A PM would have sufficed. Lord Google says it's (Tracking URL) is for web sites. OK, won't include any source again. Are YOU able to answer the question about using IP's because spammers use a few IPs to spoof domain names that we end up sending to SpamBot that may blacklist innocent web owners. ~o~
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    SpamCop on cPanel - do-able?

    spam Assassin/spam Filters seems stuck in the domain name/TLD groove when it comes to blocking senders. No where have I found a way to block IP addresses. Not without spending a great deal more time and money in a VPN I'll need 34 of them) and then, ~maybe'~ perhaps possibly block IP #'s. It's no wonder that spammers get away using 173.44.201.16, and using real domain names as the sender/reply-to when all they want is for us click on the link in the email so they get their affiliate commission, or we open the Trojan. This 173.44.201.16/18/20 ... is ones that I receive with dozens a day all with different domain names. Assuming 173.#.#.# is on a shared host, then wouldn't blocking 173.*.*.* deny email from all the other domains on that shared host? If so - maybe the honest ones will rant enough that the Host will have to review their logs and do their job as landlords of some web lots-for-rent. I can block 173.44.201.16, and same spammer uses 173.44.201.18 from visiting the web server, why not email? One day - maybe. Today, I manually pasted the message sources to SpamCop, as I have this last week, and they still keep coming from the same yahoo. Today, about 20 of them - all with same IP, different domain names/TLD. Now I feel guilty for sending stuff that may block the innocent web domains! BTW - The Forum topic you linked me to is 16 years old; the author said he made changes, but didn't say what, and the topic changed to chicken pox somehow. But thanks any way. ~0~
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    SpamCop says it's too old, it's not

    RESPONSE::: Using ThunderBird (TB) Email client, this just arrived at 11:01 - by my Windows clock. The time shown arriving by TB is "12:16 PM" Between 11:00 AM until now (11:07 PM) the email account has sent 11 emails, and received 63. TB checks for email every 10 minutes. NOTE: That all previous emails of today were retrieved by TB within the 10 minute 'check' auto-task. The following is the only one that is 11 hours late. I hope it is enough, and not too much. From - Wed Aug 5 22:58:08 2020 X-Account-Key: account5 X-UIDL: UID4435-1531670317 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: <info-a146-2260-2262-6dae75f5=2337072=8@specialtstaffing.com> Delivered-To: --REDACTED-- Received: from --REDACTED-- by elm.###########.com with LMTP id 8K2XFSuaK1+KSQAAEzXE3g (envelope-from <info-a146-2260-2262-6dae75f5=2337072=8@specialtstaffing.com>) for <--REDACTED-->; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:50:35 -0400 Return-path: <info-a146-2260-2262-6dae75f5=2337072=8@specialtstaffing.com> Envelope-to: --REDACTED-- Delivery-date: Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:50:35 -0400 Received: from hiko5.specialtstaffing.com ([212.129.27.136]:36558) by elm.--REDACTED--.com with esmtps (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from <info-a146-2260-2262-6dae75f5=2337072=8@specialtstaffing.com>) id 1k3YnL-0004nI-WD for --REDACTED--; Thu, 06 Aug 2020 01:50:35 -0400 Subject: Confidential: Premium Account Update ...!! From: "Bitcoin-Team" <info@specialtstaffing.com> To: --REDACTED-- Sender: info@specialtstaffing.com Reply-To: info@specialtstaffing.com Date: 05 Aug 2020 19:16:17 -0000 List-Unsubscribe: <https://track-des.specialtstaffing.com/ga/unsubscribe/2-2337072-146-1146-2262-25dd84b5df146fe-6194970106?confirmed=1>, <mailto:info-a146-2260-2262-6dae75f5=2337072=8u@specialtstaffing.com> X-CampaignID: s4:2260-3393e99952aae9c7 Message-ID: <mid-ed5112dc651635258de6ebc8f9daac19-2@specialtstaffing.com> X-Mailer-Info: 8.QYxQjN.gMyYDM.Qaul2YAlmb0VmcuVGdp52YuMWY.gMzMzNwcjM.gMyYjM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="==f6f474df7f8a7153e32458571ba76c01" X-spam-Status: No, score=1.3 X-spam-Score: 13 X-spam-Bar: + X-Ham-Report: spam detection software, running on the system "elm.--REDACTED--.com", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see root\@localhost for details. Content preview: Congratulations on your Premium Customer account. This confidential message is for: --REDACTED--. Investment plan on account: # 9854 Read the details here: Content analysis details: (1.3 points, 2.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: specialtstaffing.com] 1.1 DATE_IN_PAST_06_12 Date: is 6 to 12 hours before Received: date -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID BODY: Test for Invalidly Named or Formatted Colors in HTML 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST BODY: HTML font color similar or identical to background 0.2 KAM_TRACKIMAGE RAW: Message has a remote image explicitly meant for tracking X-spam-Flag: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --==f6f474df7f8a7153e32458571ba76c01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations on your Premium Customer account. This confidential message is for: --REDACTED--. Investment plan on account: # 9854 Read the details here: For the highest return on investment, it is recommended that you << brevity >> Thanks for waiting. ~o~
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    SpamCop on cPanel - do-able?

    Thank you @gnarlymarley I very much appreciate your time. I've no idea if that is what I'm looking for. If it would be accessible, which it is not, then maybe - IF it will let me block IP addresses - as in 170.###.###.###. That link-post has over 4,500 words to digest and most of it is geekinese. I traversed all of the cPanel>spam Filters (told by host that spam Assassin is spam Filters), but could not find any "rule" you allude to, or place to add it. I perused "New SpamAssassin rules" and frankly, it's way over my head, not my forte, and time is not on my side. As it is, if you look at my OP, under "Email" in the image, is all the Email functions available to us. I find it very odd that there is no ability to block/ban email from/to ip addresses. Since this spammer uses a few of the ip addresses range in 170.* and uses a new email address in each spam. ~O~
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    Three Ways to Report spam

    When you Gurus use acronyms, PLEASE, at least ONCE, use the full the expression. As in Gee, I Hate Acronyms (IHA) and THEN use your acronyms, even if replying to how much IHA. It makes it easier, and faster for us noobs, and we're not aghast at trying to figure out what a baseball league has to do with spam reporting. *BTW - SCBL by lord Google is "Santa Clara Baseball League", and other teams belonging to the league. Thank you ~o~ * No need to go there, I found (finally) the explanation for your SCBL.
  13. These pop up now: Happens with both FireFox and Chrome. 'nuff said about that. ~o~
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    SpamCop says it's too old, it's not

    Sorry, but that was gone after I posted the query. Yet reading everyone's response has helped me understand it better. I've no idea how, after email is checked for at minimum, 5 minutes and as for this one, as I've seen with as few others, show up two or three days late. Thanks for the help.
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    How Do I Use SC on MY Mail Server?

    Thanks gnarlymarley. It's great having people like yourself jump in and help us noobs Sorry again for delayed response - - - again to switching out Mother boards. ~o~
  16. THE QUESTION: Is there a guide that helps one establish the relationship tween SC and the mail servers so any inbound SC-designated spam, is deleted? In another Thread/Post/Topic (depends on your language) 'gnarlymarley - Advanced Member' said: First, I read the 300+ lines of links in the FAQ - but most discuss "Page Not Found - 404" - so I ask here. BACKGROUND: I have 64 domains, each with their so-called "own mail server". I have access via WHM (crippleware)/ cPanel to each domain. FYI: The 'free' (un-huh) "SpamAssassin" was replaced with the costly "Professional spam Filter" by the server hosts. Being the host is a affiliate of "Professional spam Filter", explains why they did it, but doesn't explain where their ethics and morals went. TIA -0-
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    How Do I Use SC on MY Mail Server?

    Thanks @Lking I asked my Host if I am permitted to use Spamcop in some way. Tech support said "Yes". I HAD access to Professional spam filter but a while ago the host raised the rates and replaced "Free" with 'Add-ons Extra' and disabled Pro spam Filter. We just have Apache spam Assassin / spam Filter. I gather I need to buy access to the add-on Pro spam Filter? It's in cPanel, but haven't used it since they disabled it and started charging extra for it. I am just feeling my way around Spamcop, and anti-spam server-side. If I NEED Pro spam Assassin, I have a hard time caving in to extortion by the Host - as I see it. ~o~ BTW - Will there be, or is there any move to getting a payment gateway for adding "fuel" to SpamCop??
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    Why am I paying with my time?

    Wonderful but I already knew that some people would like SpamCop to use PayPal. Add me to the list, or is the link a subtle survey?
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    Why am I paying with my time?

    Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate the job anti-spam companies are doing and glad I can be of help by reporting spam. It doesn't seem reciprocal. ISSUE: As I understand it, every time I report spam to SpamCop (SC), I am helping CISCO/SC. My preferred method of reporting spam is to copy & paste the 'source'. I know there are easier ways, but I get a sense of pleasure feeling I've helped to tighten the noose. I use real email via a client, not public Wmail. (I hate Webmail and their stalkers) After clicking "Submit" I have to wait - and in the start it was 5 seconds. Now it's 18 seconds! I know I can PAY SC to rid the NAG screen and report immediately. How fair is it that I am being nagged to pay SC so others (and CISCO) may benefit from my meager contribution of my time? I see it as I am working for SC. I don't mind volunteering my time to report, but sure as Hades don't appreciate being penalized for it. Why am I penalized with a 18 second (an growing) nag screen? If SC wants help, it's a odd way of treating helpers. O
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    Why am I paying with my time?

    Thank you everyone for your help. I just tried to contribute to a subscription or whatever it's called but our policy does not permit me to use anything other than a recognized payment gateway. That is something that Spamcop should catch up on and the only option to not giving up credit card info is by ... "check or money-order" which is even more primitive. I am main online buyer for where I work, and I can't remember when the last was that I saw a web site ask for credit card info, that wasn't PayPal, Swipe or Digital Rivers etcetera. When there is a payment gateway - I'll spend some money. Thanks ~0~
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    Why am I paying with my time?

    My thanks to everyone with your replies. I am sorry for long delay in responding, but a dead mother board has me scrambling to rebuild with out loosing everything and Windows doesn't like me starting it without me putting on my leash - which took 2 days to convince, It's MY computer :) I've read everything twice. I'm still at a loss as to how I benefit directly except to bypass the "7 minute" nag screen (see image) {Start sidebar}Soon as my ISP gets some semblance of support for me to change my account password - it fainted because I have a new comp and won't let me log in until I contact support which doesn't answer voice or chat. It's a stupid world. To many kiddie-koders being oh so 'kewl' in reading my GPU, CPU, and APU, MACs and not recognizing, it won't let me log in. Dumb donkeys! I wish they'd go back to crayons and coloring book. (had to rant somewhere :) ) {End sidebar} Now that I'm back online, I can contribute to the cause - how ever it works :) Thanks EVERYONE. ~o~ p.s. @petzl Over my dead router!
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    Bad Forum link

    There is a read-only FAQ(?) at "http://forum.spamcop.net/topic/14783-what-is-spamcop" and therein is a set of bulleted links near the top: see image below: All links results in... Hmmmm ~o~
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    Why am I paying with my time?

    Thanks for that @petzl. The reporting site isn't very clear how it works. But it begs the question: Preamble: I use real Email - not a webpage Wmail GUI. I have several emails hosted by several different mail servers. Each has their own very weak anti-spam - useless in the short run. Most use cPanels " Apache SpamAssassin " and even with the spam Threshold Score set to 2, spams still invades with it's garbage. I copy & paste the spam contents (in Thunderbird it's Tool Bar > View > Message Source) to SpamBot reporting form. The QUESTION: By reporting spam to SC, how does it 1*protect me from more spam? Do mail hosts have to subscribe (free or otherwise) to SC or CISCO mail servers in order to avoid the spam? I just don't understand how CISCO can help block spam I've reported unless mail routs through CISCO mail servers somehow. I certainly don't mind, tho do resent, paying for another level of anti-spam. The nagger says "$15.00 for 2 years". Will that be enough to avoid nag screen? ~ Just another Google♟~ BTW - I love this forum's GUI.
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    Why am I paying with my time?

    My reporting spam doesn't affect me except in the very slightest sense. As I see it, when anyone sends a report in, a binary bit-chomper anaylze3s headers, content and when set number (probably in the thousands) sends in the same, it raises a flag. SC sends copies to ABUSE@ wherever, and when THEY get enough, another flag is raised and that bit-chomper takes a serious look at it. Then, and only if there are a large number of same filings, the chomper puts the offender into it's database. Mail servers subscribing to SC receive the offenders IP and another bit-chomper suspends the email users account. It takes more than just one person and SC doesn't take my word for it and block spam coming to me. So my entry is just one of thousands assisting to maintain SCs database so they can sell subscriptions to mail servers who in turn will block the sender IF and only IF there are enough complaints. When I submit, and am told to wait 15 seconds and can get past the delay IF I pay, it's still a smarmy way of treating the volunteering help. Give I get the time, I might auto it to forward. But in reality, it's the Trashnets way of doing business. R.I.P Internet. I see no reason to continue this discussion since you and probably others, think it's OK to nag volunteers into paying to help. Thanks for your opinions petzl, and goodbye O
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