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    Misdirected Bounces

    Sorry I am showing my ignorance here but do you mean like a Postmaster[at] address?? where people can send complaints about issues they have encountered with emails from the domain, for example.
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    Misdirected Bounces

    I actually posted the email that I sent to the deputies for all to see in the forums. I have sent off another email to the same address with the original attached. Hopefully this time I get a response. Miss Betsy - I know they are busy, but I figured brevity would result in the email being more likely ignored. As mentioned about the dialix.oz.au email address, I found that information by searching my Ip address in the blacklist. http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=blcheck&ip=202.14.101.7 Which incedentally isnt listed anymore. I then clicked on the "trace IP" link which took me to http://www.spamcop.net/sc?track=202.14.101.7 Unless I misunderstood what this link was for....I though that it was telling me what email address had reported us.
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    Misdirected Bounces

    Steve - In that case the out of office (OOO) for each user would respond once to the email. So one email sent in would generate 3 out of office responses. However if the same spoofed/spam address was used to send to the any of the same 3 users again while they still had their out of office, then the OOO would not respond again to that senders address. Incedentally it is now Friday and I have had no response from the Deputies. I figure that they are busy and havent had a chance to respond. Though I noticed that they "reserve the right to ignore frivolous requests to delist the address" Also my address has now been removed from the BL. So I am not sure if I am not getting a response because I am no longer listed or because I am being ignored or because they are busy.
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    Misdirected Bounces

    DerekT - Yes Out of office notifications are turned off to the internet. Although I would actually say that the out of office autoresponse is quite selective in how it responds. The default behaviour is to only respond once to each different sender during the entire period that it is enabled. eg: if the out of office is enabled for 1 week and somebody sends 5 emails to the account with out of office enabled, then out of office will only respond on the first email and it wont respond to that same person again. Regardless - it has been turned off. As have automatic replies, automatic forwards, delivery reports and non-delivery reports
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    Misdirected Bounces

    Sent this to the deputies. I have seen posts in other forums about not getting a response at all so hopefully they are not too busy. Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2006 9:18 AM To: 'deputies[at]spamcop.net' Subject: Blacklisting of 202.14.101.7 Hi I am writing this email because we keep getting listed in the spamcop blacklist. I have reconfigured our email system so that NDR’s, AV notifications, Anti-spam notificatione etc etc. have all been disabled. I have also followed the FAQ’a and the advice of other forum members. The link to the forum posts is below. http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5779 In light of the fact that I still cannot prevent us from getting on the black list I was hoping you could provide me with more information so that I can determine if there is a problem with my mail configuration, or if there is something else causing us to get listed. Additionally it appears that the same email address keeps listing us ianc[at]lima.dialix.oz.au . As we do not have the ability to terminate mail at the mail gateway with 5xx messages, we accept all email. I have searched through all of the log files and we have not sent any NDR/automated responses to this email address. Is it possible that you could assist us to resolve the problem. Thanks DCD Mail Administrator
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    Misdirected Bounces

    Steve Out of Office is turned off, As is AV and antispam notifications. Unfortunately I cant get the mail system to check for valid email addresses because the interscan version that I have is not capable of checking against the Directory of email addresses, so I have to accept the email messages and stop the NDR's being sent back to the internet. I have noticed that it is the same email address that keeps listing us. http://www.spamcop.net/sc?track=202.14.101.7 ianc[at]lima.dialix.oz.au I will send an email to the spamcop guys and see what they say.
  7. yokel

    Misdirected Bounces

    Thanks Steve, I have also done similar tests and have not received any responses because NDR's have been turned off. If you get a response I will be very surprised. Let me know what the outcome is.
  8. yokel

    Misdirected Bounces

    Hi All - I am back again. It seems that removing NDR's and stopping virus notifications has not prevented us from being listed on the BL again. What else can I do to find out why we are being listed. I know that spamcop like to keep the honeypot email addresses secret - but it would be a bit easier for trouble shooting if they posted a copy of the body of the message (minus headers so the addresses remain secret) that way you could see the exact cause of the problem. Anyway Could someone please suggest alternatives to fixing our mail system so we dont get listed on the BL again. A_Friend - Yes I am interested in how you are going with this.
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    Misdirected Bounces

    Thanks for the replies. It appears ( for the time being at least) that we have been automatically removed from the blacklist. In the mean time I looked into getting Interscan to do the checking against AD for legitimate usernames etc. However it requires Interscan to be upgraded and for us that is a $40k proposition....not nice! So we are pushing the politics bandwagon to get approval to use open source solutions such as spamassin that do support such functionality....and its free.
  10. Hi All We have been listed in the SpamCop Black lists for (as I understand it) sending misdirected bounce emails. http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblock&ip=202.14.101.7 I have read the FAQ'a and Guidelines on what to do to stop these bounce emails occuring in the future and I "think" I have rectified the problem. However I am not confident that I have completely prevented the relisting of our MX record. Our current setup uses an Interscan box to do AV filtering and spam flitering, this Interscan box then relays (internally of course) mail to our exchange servers. As interscan seems to be incapable of checking the validity of the destination address before accepting the email, I have set exchange to not NDR. Additionally I have also removed a notifications to people who's mail has been classified as spam by interscan. Which should stop any NDR's and automated replies (for spam emails). Is this the correct approach? Also I am confused about one aspect of the misdirected bounced email concept. We still have virus notifications and automatic replies( for 2 email addresses only. These auto replies are only generated if a mail is sent to a specific email address. However I can see that the virus notifications and the above auto replies could still have the reply to address, spoofed, and subsequently the response is sent. Would this still contravene SpamCop's guidelines? If so could you please suggest what action I could take to modify the above setup. Thanks
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