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  1. Alright an update is now due: After 3 days of not reporting spam. I sent in about 200 spam messages and then the NOIP error came back. I fired up a retired Win7 laptop and installed Thunderbird 38.0.0 I configured my submit.xxxxxx#spamcop.net reporting contact and I reported 30 messages of which 10 messages came back with the NOIP error reappeared, 5 messages were reported successfully and the remainder simply disappeared, no error no anything. Because there really was a reason to retire that old laptop I completely discarded it and installed Oracle VirtualBox and Linux Mint 19 as a guest OS on this PC, I then configured Thunderbird 38.0.2 with my email addresses and reported approximately 100 messages some were returned with the NOIP error and some simply disappeared never to be seen again & about 15 reported successfully. Then just because I could I used PROxpn to connect my Linux Mint Thunderbird client to somewhere in Canada [wanting to change my IPAddress ] There was no change. Just for the heck of it I created a new SpamCop account and reported more messages using PROxpn from England. No change was noted. I don't know for sure but I believe that something is going on at SpamCop. I even paid $15.00 thinking that they might be wanting to be paid for the service and CPU time I was using. Nope, no change. Right now it seems pointless for me to continue to donate my time to help Spamcop with information and statistics when I'm just spinning my wheels and paying for the privilege too boot. Because I have taken the steps I have taken I find it hard to believe that more people are not having this problem. Thanks studmoose for your contribution. I'll monitor this thread for awhile but I think nothing is going to get fixed anytime soon, and I do believe the problem is in SpamCop's sphere of influence.
  2. Dracosse checks version, looks down at feet, slaps forehead, and tears come to eyes. Current version 68.3.1. YUP updated to exactly the version I didn't want. Now to figure out how to prevent automatic updates and before I downgrade again I'll make sure to back up my contacts. Thanks gnarlymarley!
  3. As Per 12-16-2019 4:25 PM above: "Good news! I was re-reading all of the posts in both threads and one thing stuck in my mind. LKing mentioned using CTL + U to view the headers of messages a couple times. I tried it and after submitting 25 messages without an error, not one! I decided to roll back to an earlier version of Thunderbird. v38.0 to be exact and the problem completely disappeared." However the next day the problem arose again but this morning I didn't have the problem for about an hour and then the holiday season interrupted my reporting and testing opportunities. I believe I will simply wait this problem out until after XMas.
  4. I've scanned this PC with Malware bytes checked it with Clamwin Antivirus [always worked in the past], Windows 10 with Windows Defender and monitored the startup apps + I have used Spybot Search and Destroy for years. When I reverted to an older version of Thunderbird. I checked to "share experience with developers" When I get up the gumption to do that again I won't check that box. Maybe the developers are doing something in proactive mode? Also next time I'll make sure to backup the contacts list 1st. (OUCH!) P.S.S. I run Clamwin from a USB Drive by booting to that drive by doing this no virus or malware can hide itself. I play 1 online game RIFT. I get my other entertainment on our TV not the computer. yea I'm depressed this morning.
  5. I rolled back to an older version of Thunderbird [38.0] and for 2 hours I was able to report spam just like before. Then suddenly the same thing happened. Almost all messages have no tracking information. Weird. I don't understand that?
  6. I rolled back to an older version of Thunderbird [38.0] and for 2 hours I was able to report spam just like before. Then suddenly the same thing happened. Almost all messages have no tracking information. Weird. I don't understand that?
  7. Good news! I was re-reading all of the posts in both threads and one thing stuck in my mind. LKing mentioned using CTL + U to view the headers of messages a couple times. I tried it and after submitting 25 messages without an error, not one! I decided to roll back to an earlier version of Thunderbird. v38.0 to be exact and the problem completely disappeared. Thanks everyone for taking the time to give my problem a second thought. RobiBue you and LKing are my IT heroes for going above and beyond. Umm, I've been getting carpal tunnel submitting so many messages in the last 2 hours. I am once again a happy spam reporter.
  8. Yes. In the morning I delete everything that arrived while I was asleep. I like to keep my reporting time to something less that 2 hours. I've been striving for this since about 2000 using 2 older retired Spamcop accounts. I'm still reporting everything that comes in hourly but I don't think I'll continue doing this, I'm retired and disabled. I have little else I can do these days. Spamcop helped to make me feel useful until this happened.
  9. Maybe of interest to someone. In one hour I have 112 new spam messages. I'm beginning to lose interest in reporting all of these pieces of spam.
  10. I have been submitting spam to SpamCop for years but I'm afraid that I don't have the experience or the terminology to always understand what I read in the forums. Please don't come down on me if I am duplicating other requests. As LKing can attest I have been posting in the lounge a problem that has been plaguing me for the last 2 or 3 weeks. I'm not getting any support from Hotmail or Outlook admins either. The problem is that I receive literally hundreds of spam messages every day and Spamcop reports "No source IP Address Found", "Probably not full headers, See FAQ". I use Thunderbird to forward messages as attachments. Because of this I provide Spamcop with the entire message. I would like to request a feature that I can turn on or off that would allow Spamcop to NOT send me a link that reports the no IP address condition. Below I provide examples of my problem. https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6600151198z37eab1d8d676ae74bc0275d270b9c72az https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6600151200z386f959d2ff11ff3fb10c11c0f8d6233z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6600151201z0c8ee99f58cc4eb4d0335674c468e352z
  11. I have been in contact with Comcast/Xfinity support several times This issue has been escalated 2 times. I am now waiting to hear from level 3 support. Contacting Hotmail results in the expected zero support. I've tried many times and the Hotmail Admins do not care. I should be noted that they DO care that I am sending so many messages to Spamcop. They think that I AM A SPAMMER. I have continued to submit messages to Spamcop but it is getting old to submit 100 messages and only 5 or 6 of them are successfully reported. I may have to quit it is beginning to feel like a failed and time wasting exercise. 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  12. Yes Thanks for your help but I do not process messages this way. I use Thunderbird to Forward Message(s) as Attachments. 12 to 13 at a time.
  13. Indeed. Nothing will change until something is done to counter the spammers new tactic. Thank you for responding. Your interest/response has given me renewed interest in following this through. My original question was and still is "If spammers have devised a way to send spam without headers what good would it do to continue to use SpamCop in the future? How can the Block list continue to be useful?" I have not contacted Comcast/xfinity to ask how these messages are being handled. It seems to me that ISP's should be able to detect the "No Headers" condition and simply delete them or refuse to forward those messages. I will contact my ISP today and when or if I get a reply I will post it here for all to see. Thanks everyone for bouncing ideas and thoughts around it gives me fuel to run on. Dracosse
  14. Nope. I'm doing reporting the way I've always done it. As far as I know there isn't a way to do anything differently and still report the spam. Dracosse
  15. No headers continue in reply to most of my reports today.
  16. I have been submitting spam to SpamCop for years. The last few days have really shocked me. Normally in a month I may see an error message from the SpamCop server that states no header information was found, this might happen perhaps 1 or 2 times [per month]. A week ago without warning I started receiving hundreds of spam messages on 4 different email accounts that I own, Hotmail, Outlook and Comcast. I dutifully reported all of the messages that came into my Thunderbird email client [right click - Forward as Attachment]. Starting 3 days ago at least 98% of the 100’s of messages I submitted return with this "no header" error. Thinking that maybe I had reached a SpamCop ceiling I used mxtoolbox to check the headers… These messages do NOT have an originating IPAddress. My question is simply this. Has anyone else noticed the same problem? If spammers have devised a way to send spam without headers what good would it do to continue to use SpamCop in the future? How can the Block list continue to be useful?
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