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    Gmail's server blocked

    Just an intuition I had when I put toguether a couple of facts here, dunno if anyone came up with this or no, hope I'm not repeating anyone's idea and if I am I won't mind the admins deleting my post or something like that, but I honestly do not have the time to read the 14 pages of posts at the moment (I will do so later however). So here's a conclusion I've come to, firstly I've been wondering if Spamcop ever checks the origin of the spam reporters, because from my point of view, if I was Bill Gates, and had a service like Hotmail I would be pretty annoyed at Gmail for ofering a BETTER service then mine and for FREE, and again assuming I was Bill Gates and I had a battallion of programmers, IT Engineers and alot of other ppl at my diposal I imagine it would be pretty easy for me to have them all send an e-mail reporting a few Gmail adresses as spammers, thus incapaciting Gmail to compete with me since they're e-mails would always be blocked and listed as spammers. And since Gmail has a strict policy not to reveal their user's identities (which is from my point of view correct), they are bound by their own policy and can't really do anything to prevent being reported as spammers. Basically, Gmail is by far the BEST e-mail provider, and I can Imagine how that would make other ppl angry (particularly other e-mail providers who have inferior services). I gave you an example from Microsoft's point of view, however this example can easily be transformed to any other company that has an email provider service ... You may see this as a conspiracy theory, but I simply see it as pure logic, it's the law of the jungle in these new technologies and basically anything goes ... Again I apologize myself if I am merely repeating someone else's idea. And also, I would like to ask SpamCop to verify their reporters origins, because I mean, I personally could get about 50 ppl send an e-mail here reporting the same e-mail adress or the same adress, and I could probably get a few ppl blocked by exploiting your block formula ... it's pretty easy to be honest. Bare in mind that with this post I do not mean to insult or in any way demean your endeavour, after all I am one of the first persons to defend it as I now receive less (if any) spam messages, however I find myself being blocked along with it, and find the best e-mail provider being blocked as well so you have to admit there may be a few flaws in your system and that you should check the origin of the spam reporters. Rui Modesto
  2. Hello, I will be honest, I'm having a big problem here with spamcop.net and I'll start from the beggining... I created this e-mail (rurikhan[at]gmail.com) a while ago and used it to replace my old hotmail account, however when replacing an hotmail account you have to bare in mind of all the contacts you have in MSN, so I sent about 80 e-mails to all my contacts in order to notify them I was changing my e-mail, I dunno if this was when you considered I was spamming or not, anyway I went to your blocking list to check to see if my e-mail was listed as spammer my e-mail is rurikhan[at]gmail.com , and if you check your list it says that I'm not a spammer, however whenever i send e-mails to some adresses I get this message : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: constantino.modesto[at]palexpo.pt Technical details of permanent failure: PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 554 O Endereço de onde está a enviar o seu email, está listado na Spamcop.net como Spammer!! Por favor verifique com o seu ISP! ----- Original message ----- Received: by with SMTP id u2mr3439128nfl; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <rurikhan[at]gmail.com> Received: from ? ( []) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o9sm1694179nfa.2006.; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:09:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <70CE6795-5A21-4AC9-B5AE-21B38AD93264[at]gmail.com> References: <001501c6651a$0f777580$6500a8c0[at]psy> <70CE6795-5A21-4AC9-B5AE-21B38AD93264[at]gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v749.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-408034501 Message-Id: <09F48715-3FE7-4D7D-A846-DE4A7B0C73A8[at]gmail.com> Cc: Constantino Modesto <constantino.modesto[at]palexpo.pt>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Alegria?= <josealegr[at]gmail.com>, vascocartuxo <vascocartuxo[at]sapo.pt>, prime[at]ptprime.pt From: Rurikhan <rurikhan[at]gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Pedido_de_Informa=E7=E3o?= Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:09:18 +0100 To: elisabete.m.silva[at]telecom.pt X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.749.3) --Apple-Mail-1-408034501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed " ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the error message is this : "PERM_FAILURE: SMTP Error (state 9): 554 O Endereço de onde está a enviar o seu email, está listado na Spamcop.net como Spammer!! Por favor verifique com o seu ISP!" and it's written in portuguese, but if you translate it, you get something like, "The e-mail adress from where you're sending this email is listed in spamcop.net as a spammer, please check with your ISP". Well I already know for sure that my ISP has nothing to do with it, and if i'm not in the list, then why do my e-mails keep getting blocked ? this seriouly troublesome and is causing me some serious problems at work and such, my boss keeps repreending me for using other ppl's emails but i have no choice !! I simply can't use my own email because of your list, please look into this, thanks in advance. Rui Modesto