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    Yahoo webmail blocked...or?

    Hey! At last someone that at least partially agrees with me, on some points! Bonus smiley awarded! A new question: Does anyone have any statistics? What is the ratio (actual or estimated) of spam to legitimate mail when a service like yahoo/gmail is blacklisted? As I understand, gmail (or yahoo) can only be blacklisted *itself* when the users are using the web interface (or perhaps some API?) to send spam. Is this the common way of sending spam through these servers, or is it more common to use SMTP? It would be interesting to see some numbers on the amount of spam coming from different sources - open relays, hacked servers or mail scripts, zombies, 'rogue' sites, and web mail services like yahoo, gmail and hotmail. senderbase.org tell give me the following stats for web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Volume Statistics for this IP Magnitude Vol Change vs. Average Last day 4.7 1730% Last 30 days 3.9 235% Average 3.4 Does this mean that it has been a 17-fold increase from average for this IP and that the spam:legitimate ratio - if the increase is only spam - must be something like 17:1 (which I would agree would make it a strong candidate for blocking..)?
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    Yahoo webmail blocked...or?

    I admit that I have only skimmed the FAQs and read-me's. And I know that there is already a huge yahoo-thread that probably covers most of the issues. I guess that makes me another YAHOO ranting about yahoo... Some of you have probably blacklisted my nick already (BTW, the spam-solution-form was an attempt at humor - but I think that it did have some valid/interesting points) here's some more: 1) your measures are to harsh 2) the regular user can't always easily switch ISP 3) the regular user can't always easily change his/her contact point (email address) 4) the ISP ought to inform its subscribers that it is using a BL in a blocking manner 5) the ISP ought to read the FAQs on this forum (I'm not sure if mine has! )
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    Yahoo webmail blocked...or?

    Isn't it the responsibility of spamcop to inform its subscribers/users (??) of the possible ways of handling potential spam email? Anyway, here is my take on spamcop Your post advocates a (x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws which vary from state to state.) ( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses (X) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks ( ) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it (X) Users of email will not put up with it ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it ( ) The police will not put up with it ( ) Requires too much cooperation from spammers ( ) Requires cooperation from too many of your friends and is counterintuitive (X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once (X) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business ( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever worked ( ) Other: Extremely limited approach Specifically, your plan fails to account for ( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it ( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email ( ) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses (X) Asshats ( ) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money ( ) Huge existing software investment in SMTP ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email (X) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes ( ) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches ( ) Extreme profitability of spam ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft ( ) Technically illiterate politicians ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering ( ) Outlook ( ) Other: and the following philosophical objections may also apply: ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation (X) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures cannot involve wire fraud or credit card fraud ( ) Countermeasures cannot involve sabotage of public networks ( ) Sending email should be free (X) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome ( ) I don't want the government reading my email ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough ( ) Other: Furthermore, this is what I think about you: (X) Nice try, dude, but I don't think it will work. ( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
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    Yahoo webmail blocked...or?

    My ISP have informed me that they can't do anything for me, and that I should contact the owner of the server web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com But wouldn't it be possible to put an spam-flag/header in the mail, so that the users themselves could decide if they wanted to block or filter the mail?
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    Yahoo webmail blocked...or?

    Hi all, I received the error message from my father in law, and found that the culprit is the server at yahoo. web27705.mail.ukl.yahoo.com and a bunch of others staring with web#####. W0llys (aka Wollys)