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  1. then autoforwarded to my ISP mail address. Outgoing mail indicates my domain name, but actually goes out from my ISP's server)

    What's happening and who needs to fix it?


    It pays to POP pop.spamcop.net directly as this removes or lessens the probability of other mailservers error

    SpamCop email is more than likley to be faster than mail from your companies server so no need to forward there

    By removing an unnecessary step it becomes easier to identify problems

  2. I never looked just assumed they would be?

    It may be they are not listed by cn.rbl.cluecentral.net and or china.blackholes.us but they need to be

    One of the spamcop listings is becase I put it there with one report but is due for release in a few hours!

    The other has a number of reports and will be there for a couple of days CHINANET-ZJ WENZHOU NODE NETWORK

    this was sent to a old legacy email acount CHINANET SICHUAN PROVINCE NETWORK

    this one was sent to spamcop addresses?

  3. Yesterday (thursday) could not send email. Spoke with ISP - Road Runner. One of the techs had not heard of spamcop.

    error message on attempting to send email.

    An unknown error was returned from the SMTP account . . .

    Server response '571 was found in bl.spamcop.net ....

    The only suggestion that the ISP had was to unplug the cable modem for 24 hours

    and let the DNS server assign a new address



    Your computer is being accesed by persons you don't want to access your computer. go through my signature and install a virus checker SpyWare checker and Firewall Also get latest updates from microsoft

  4. The SpamCop blocklist SCBL blocks the spam while it is being sent. Releasing IP when spammer has stopped sending.

    The SpamCop Blocklist acts like a radar when spam appears in the form of abuse reports or spamtraps that IP is blocked. When reports stop comming that IP is released

    If you choose to show the IP address more information can be given (SpamCop members can see what type of spam it is)

  5. In my signature I recommend the Installation of IE-SPYAD Particularly for Parents. But I suspect this type of software could be worked on to block all web sites from spam friendly providers (which IMO it pretty much does now)

    However it does cripple many features of (Genuine Part) Internet Explorer and Outlook Express so it does require a person of internet "savvy" to check the effectiveness of this non-genuine MicroSoft "Tack on"

  6. Petz:  This shooting a messenger argument does wash. A/the cause for being listed needs to be worked out and the fix applied

    Miss Betsy

    I think I already said the same thing a couple of posts back.

    Miss Betsy


    I know you did and are of course completly correct as usual

  7. There's more than one "blackhole list" on the Internet, Wazoo, so I don't think there would be any copyright/trademark restrictions involved.

    I'm pretty sure that their trademark is "RBL" and/or "Realtime Blackhole List," but not any one or two of those words.

    to suggest a new name: SpamCop Blackhole List


    I believe you are on the right track. I always try to refer to the list as our SpamCop Members List

    It just sounds friendlier (Like the Words DON'T PANIC) and would avoid the complaints about those choosing to use this list. A few people forever try to reason that the SCBL because it is named a blocklist is designed to bit-bin email? While it can do this it is meant to sort email to a spam folder (Idealy for reporting), which I and a major majority find it accurately does

  8. A question...

    Any suggestions as to what's going on? Please let me know if you need more info to help diagnose the problem.

    Thanks in advance

    Brian Vauter


    You have checked your Held Folder? You can check non spam email for whitelisting and forward

    You have your Domain Name naturalbridgecaverns.com listed in your whitelist? (Also check your personal blacklist)

    You have put your (one) "anybody<at>naturalbridgecaverns<dot>com" through Mailhosts? Just click the MailHost TAB in your Held Folder?

    If possible collect your SpamCop email directly from "pop.spamcop.net" do not have SpamCop forward email to your email domain

    This means simply less to go wrong and SpamCop's email is probably MUCH faster than your server anyhow. Forwarding is an unnecessary step and removes the problems arising from somewhere/one else

  9. Why is "Nim" mailing list getting on SpamCop's SCBL (is the question to ask)?

    I am on a number of mail lists none I get have yet appeared on the SCBL?

    The best thing is to recommend to those on mail lists is to use a hotmail account for them if this is the case (but not an answer as to why)

    If one gets bounced because of a blocklist they need to remove that address from their mail list (this is so simple I do not see the problem with it?) They of course need to have a working reply address (Most competantly set up mail servers will bounce one or two emails not 1000's of Joe Job's)

    It is also easy to check the posting IP's of a mailing list to see if they are on any Blocklist and figure out why.

    This shooting a messenger argument does wash. A/the cause for being listed needs to be worked out and the fix applied

  10. I can't however give the information you require as my dad's mailwasher is failing to bounce it (it says "maybe forged address").


    This is probably why you are getting on SpamCops list

    By bouncing email you are, at best/worst DOS attacking the email addresses of those who report spam. The email reply addresses are usually used by spammer's as a Joe Job

    Disable bounce "feature" of mailwasher, which is being stupidly and wrongly set by default Bounces are in effect what MailWasher is doing but only to valid and innocent parties email addresses (mailwasher may check email address for validity, before sending a bounce)

  11. Can anyone suggest what I can do?

    EDIT: I thought I should also mention that I never got a notification that I was being blacklisted.


    To find out your Computers IP Try this site

    MailWasher is not as good as a SpamCop Email account but it is probably the next best thing and has a whitelist facility, allowing suspicious email to be viewed in text only mode before being downloaded

    Your ISP IF competent and set up properly (meaning they should have a registered abuse[at] address and rDNS set) would be the one receiving abuse/spam reports

    SpamCop predominantly lists computers spewing spam to it's members Sorting List as the spam is being sent not after ( in a few seconds). When the spam stops the IP is released quickly as well. This effectivly sends a spam run (which takes hours) to Silicon hell (Bit Bin) for those smart enough to use SpamCop members SCBL. Meaning the spam run is mainly dumped before the spammer sends, So sending spam to a person who reports spam when its recieved, quickly blocks it before anyone else gets it. People are finding attack is the best form of defense against these criminals

  12. Well we've sent out a mailing today (PalmGear.com) and I don't think we spiked to hit your filter. However, the problem is occuring when we send to our "eReader.com" list. Yes, I'd take responsibility for making sure that our list is clean and up-to-date. We have a mailing for this list on Tues (10am ET) and I would be willing to bet that we'll hit the blocklist during this mailing. I just wish there was a way to stay off the list altogether, ya know?


    Petzls tips for marketing by email

    Assuming you are using Best Practice (look under Consent) You also need to use a common email address and do not change it. Many ISP's use a number of Blocklists (sometimes ISP's just send you to SpamCop if you are on any of them!)

    With a WhiteList it will override any BlackList making sure your email passes. Always state for users to list your domain name in their email whitelist. I always reccomend Hotmail address for mass emails/news lists to be sent to (using a 8 or better alphanumeric logon like 1_2_Buckle_my_shoe_3_4[at]hotmail.com

    Also ask for your clients to respond every six months to keep your mailing list legitimate if no response use snail mail/telephone to contact them further

  13. Petzl, while your suggestion to check for viruses and spyware is always sound, it is not likely the cause in this case as that IP is an outgoing mail server for cybersurf.com, cyberus.ca and possibly some other related ISP's.  The IP is not that of the OP but of their ISP.


    Yes it appears that the mail servers themselves may have an infection?

    On a windows machine it is a must to keep windows secure! although this virus infects linux servers Malware known as Cheese

    I have been doing some looking around and appears that cybersurf may have a security problem themselves and with their email servers?




  14. Okay, I understand, but how can I get unblocked?  My mother is also blocked from her own work e-mail too, and she needs to send messages to it!  What can I do to fix it?


    Someone using IP is infected and their computer has become a Zombie

    The Subject of a spam going through this IP is or was

    It pays to go through my signature to check that it's not you and both you and your mother have a secure windows computer

  15. Are you sure it's not a Joe Job?

    See: http://www.dynamoo.com/index.htm


    Nope? but that page was put up only after I submitted a abuse report?

    However the kiddie porn bit did seem suspiciously overboard and accept the poor sod is being attacked by scammers. Hopefully he can have the law work on his side

    Whomever posted through a European Zombie the ISP will have logs and a spanish jail room ready for the fraudsters

  16. Sorry to say this is an extremely stupid answer -like the whole spamcop thing, of course.

    Disregard myself as SMTP sender - I fortunately happen to have several ISP, as this is part of my business as an IT specialist.

    As of now, there are some 20 million mail accounts in France, and laposte.net represents 4 million accounts.

    P.S. some Google research showed me I was not the only one aggravated by your nuisance. I hope someone will stop this nonsense.


    Losing services to GOOD email providers are we?

    As to your statistics fitting catagory of lies damn lies then there are statistics

    For instance I don't know why my present provider as do all providers stick one with a compulsory email address? I and a great many like me, just don't want and won't bother using! So your 20 million of French spam targets means???

    My list of partners also do not use the email account their ISP sticks them with either

    I wouldn't be interested in using your server if you also did not effectively and accurately protect me from spam as SpamCop Email Service does

    Wonder how many other paying customers feel this way.

    I do not use any Australian providers for a trusted and reliable email account.

    I just use and pay for SpamCop email account. (I'm in Sydney Australia) Many of which also have infomercials on TV or magazines all proved to me to be worse than usless.

    My business relies on my receiving email without overdoses of spam and or losing email to do so would cost me my livelihood.

  17. I would be adviseable to have the live person link on the homepage so people do not have to get frustrated trying to find the information. Most users are not savvy enough to figure any of this out. I am a System Administartor and do not have the time to deal with this. Your webpages are not well laid out and information is difficult to find.


    If you are ending up on our SpamCop members list, which we (SpamCop email users) use for sorting potential spam email, you have a problem

    Many ISP's borrow this list to very effectively and accurately protect their user's from Joe Job's, spam virus attacks, etc. by simply bitbinning email although not intended for this. Private users also use many different programs such as MailWasher

    There are lists created by major providers (i.e. AOL, MSN, etc) which are not public and will just bitbin without any warning.

    The fact is if you are on SpamCop's SCBL you are most likley getting yourself listed on a major majority of private blacklists, in which you don't know you are on and are very hard to get removed from. (For instance my company operates such secret blacklists as do most)

    A major concern should be that if you use a static IP (and you do not spam) your computer is a Zombie This means every thing on it is not private Example News story

    The next possibility is if you are a system administrator you are bombing people with denial of service attacks called a Joe Job

    if so you immediatly need to adjust your system to modern best practice of today

    "Postmasters, please limit forgery blow-back"

    If you have a windows computer go through the links in my signature which are free programs for private users and should get your computer secure

    If you post the IP concerned here better (IMO the best) advice will be given to you on how to correct your system's problem even if you do operate a marketing system (People here can advise on Best Practice

  18. Can you offer any advice on how we may track this person down to try to resolve this issue?




    You can by reading the headers identify the ISP and possibly the town the email came from further checks in google can often identify the person sending the email

    If you can identify the IP in the email header you past it into the box Here and it should show you the town where the posting came from

    Pasting the same IP in this box should identify the ISP

  19. It seems as of late spamcop is having difficulties resolving link obfuscation.

    It takes multiple reports and crossing of fingers to get spamcop to finally resolve in order to submit the reoprts.

    maybe timeout is set to short?

    Any ideas/suggestions/comments?


    Many spamvertised sites are setup on hacked Zombie computers meaning it takes to long to for spamcop to verify that site is live

    You can report these sites yourself a exellent windows tool for this is SpamDeputy

    Also checkout the sites on my signature to ensure ones computer is secure