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  1. I've been reading about all these proposed changes with email to eliminate spoofed email and spam. Things like digital signatures and actually changing the smtp protocol which would make it impossible. Any opinions on which way would be the best way, if either?
  2. potomuss

    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Understood, ty!
  3. potomuss

    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    So I can request to have a copy of reports made against my IP from spamcop via the 3rd party method?
  4. potomuss

    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Heh! You guys are great! I want you to know that I do appreciate your insight and opinion. I've gained some new perspectives from this conversation and, although I don't agree with everything, I agree with most of it. And Wazoo, thank you for defending my right to free speech. And I'm not kidding around about that.
  5. potomuss

    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Sorry JeffG! Yes, I've requested the info from the ISP. Still waiting on the response. And thank you for the help!
  6. potomuss

    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Jeff, those are from two years ago! Actually, from one of the first emails we ever sent out. But yes, that is the company. the mktsrc is a querystring in the list that let's us know where the visitor was refered from. this one is something to do with bizopp, a list we bought off the net. Learned our lesson about buying crappy lists on that adventure.
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    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Well put and I agree with you 100%. Here are some numbers for you: Number of addresses in list: about 43,000 Number of removals every month: avg about 25 Number of site visits based on emailing: avg about 1,500 Number of sales generated by monthly email: avg $35,000 / month Number of spam complaints per month: usually about 2 Number of new sign ups (double opt-in) a month: avg 50 or so As you can see, there are far worse offenders than me. If one were to put one's information into a public database with the understanding that that information would be used for marketing purposes. Then I don't see how any marketing attempts that cross into their private space could be considered bad manners. It's not person advertising the service that's to blame. It's the person who blindly signs the dotted line. Furthermore, I know what netiquette is and I understand the rules of the internet. I do everything in my power to make sure I don't cross the lines. The internet may very well be based on netiquette, but netiquette will never hold up in court. Even so, I agree with your statement. I think the rules of the net are sometimes more fair than the ones in the law books.
  8. potomuss

    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    na, heck with that (removed due to abuse) looking for header x-id that has a number. with that number, I can get them off my database and onto my do-not-email list. Thanks for any assistance! You guys are pretty cool.... FOR COPS! And as an added leap of faith that I just want to run a clean list and not upset anyone, feel free to email any of this information to abuse at speedcolor.com
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    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Hi Jeff, I already emailed the deputies for it. If they don't provide it, I'll post the ip. Or, since your a moderator, check the ip from my post here, should be the same. Thanks!
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    Spirited debate for Spamcop users

    Well, thanks for the point of view and info Miss Betsy and JeffG. Yes, I follow the guidelines to a T but I've printed them out for upper management all the same! Thx! Wazoo.... heh, a little rabid today eh? Haven't seen an email that complies with fed law? That's because only about 1% actually do. So according you you they don't exist right? "spam and "legit list" shouldn't be in the same room" This is a spam site. My email complies with federal law. You do the math. "if you had evidence of this" It's my opinion until I have proof. But this is a forum ya know. Last time I checked, opinions were allowed. And it's not worth my time to dig up logs, back emails, etc just to prove it. (however, I would like to see the evidence and get these people off my list) "in a legitimate business enterprize, advertising is carried on the books as a business expense." Concerning this statement and all the rest you said there, I agree with you. But the feds say it's legal. It's a law. This country is based on the rule of law, not the opinion of Wazoo. Sorry dude.
  11. OK, I understand what Spamcop is and that it's generally a good thing. I even used it myself for awhile. But is it really fair that those of us who actually run a legit list which complies in every way with federal law be punished by unscrupulous spamcop users? And with no appeals process to boot? According to PCWorld.com: "CAN-spam requires that spam e-mail include a working return e-mail address, a valid postal address for the sending company, a working opt-out mechanism, and a relevant subject line." So wouldn't it seem logical that if an email complied with this federal law in every way, you would be safe to use the removal mechanism? Rather than not use the removal system, report it as spam, and go through the same thing every month because you never took steps to get your name off the database in the first place? Or maybe spamcop should be a bit more creative about checking for proper formating. Or following up with the originator. And two reports to get listed? Come on. Don't get me wrong, I know that spamcop is used by people who have made the choice to use it and I'm not trying to turn the flame on the courteous and helpful people here in the forum. But it seems to me that some users of your system are operating at a fanatical level. I wonder if they take into consideration the fact that jobs DO depend on people buying and selling goods. And that many people DO have jobs because their business found a channel of opportunity via the internet. And ya know what, if you ever had a business, you would know that you have to advertise so people know you're there. Yes, some of us are running legit lists and we do in fact remove you when you ask. Heck, I even have a do-not-email list that everyone goes on when the request to be removed from the main database. That way if I ever have to deal with a new list, I scrub real good first. Just so I don't piss those fanatical wackos off. I know you all hate spam, I do too. But (and this is a really bad Indiana Jones analogy but oh well) just because you have a gun doesn't mean you have to use it every time. Sometimes the whip is fun too! Ok, you can all kick my butt now.
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