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    I went to work in the science building and google said my ip was 66.20.28.21. My email worked. Jeff, I'm well aware and it's okay. Thank you for the quite appropriate concern. I had my last domain "stolen" because of information up there (they mailed a "time to renew" notice to the address, my mom paid it to a different registrar and gave the name up to them, thinking to be a christmas gift for me) so we learned our lesson. Watch out for those domain name thiefs, you hear! I'm just going to bring the spamcop.net blacklisting to the Networking door, not let any of the student workers talk to me, and make the head guy talk to me, and see if things just... get solved. See if magically he says, "Oh yes, that IS your dorm's IP!" and miraculous statements like that and does an insane search of the dorm's computers or something. Interesting ports on localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1): Not shown: 1676 closed ports PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 111/tcp open rpcbind 2 (rpc #100000) 660/tcp open status 1 (rpc #100024) 1014/tcp open mountd 1-3 (rpc #100005) 2049/tcp open nfs 2-4 (rpc #100003) Nmap finished: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 11.348 seconds No port 25. I do not have a SMTP server. How did I know before I did that? I didn't install a SMTP server function. In the past if I tried to email and my domain was down, it didn't work, proving I was dependent on my domain. I did not have to download nmap and do a port scan on myself to do that. I already knew. That error message doesn't have a connection but it's all I've got, and I can't email. It's not my fault it's not a "correct" error message, it's what I got stuck with. I wont be pooping out an official one any time soon, so get used to it. I'm not. I didn't say I did. But there's spam on the raise at 70.x.x.x. 70.x.x.x is the problem, and my domain is 67.x.x.x (which I said before). No,that is not what you were suggesting the whole time. I wrote a reply and it was kinda snippity so I rewrote it. I guess I woke up on the wrong side of the sun today. I have a bad error message: chill. I don't have an smtp server: it's possible to still have my ips and settings like that with SonicWall. I'm far too ignorant to know what's going on: but I'm still getting closer to figuring things out with everyone's help And I thank you guys for that! Moderator Edit: I did my best to format this thing into something that I could easily make sense out of .... nothing deleted, just quote tags entered in the places, the replies moved to that set of quoted data .... I actually went to all that work just to make it easier to respond .....
  2. girl

    No Information Email

    Thanks Dra077! You know, I've been trying to use the data you've been giving me. It started in August, when we moved into these dorms. But... I didn't move into Berry in August, I was just living on a different section of campus and there was barely anyone on campus. So, anyway, as I was saying, it started in August, when everyone moves into the dorms. And everyone in my dorm HAS THAT SAME 70.x.x.x IP ADDRESS. So if they're doing weird things, the internet is going to think it's me JUST as much as it is them. Someone menchioned that the 70.x.x.x address was a SonicWall IP so I went to SonicWall and asked them about it... https://forum.sonicwall.com/showthread.php?p=19466 (I'm daynah... I originally try to as that join here... but my email messed up! ha!) Basically, they say, that the 70.x.x.x is the outer telephone number, and my 10.x.x.x is my inner redirecting one. But every website sees me as 70.x.x.x and so is everyone else in this dorm. So someone else that is just as much 70.x.x.x as I am is doing a mail borg but I'm not. SonicWall people think it's plausible, do you think it's plausible? Because in the end, if it is plausible, I'm going to need some sort of letter from SpamCop saying, "Yeah, this dorm does have a problem (spam reports,ect), you need to take care of it (notice that my dorm's ip is on the bl)." because they aren't just going to listen to just me. And I'm probably the only person in this little area that uses something other than webmail of some sort (be it my college's or a web gmail or yahoo), thus who notices. PS, Berry Tech a day or two ago sent out an email saying they were having a "spam problem." Of course, of course, it was JUST RECEIVING spam. The tech guy was also convinced that 70.x.x.x was an ip from someone other than the college, even though many people have confirmed it is me, and SonicWall has explained how I can "have two" and how I can share one. Just thought it was humorous. Because there's no computers connected to daintyrosesmtp right now... and there's still spam coming out. So that doesn't make much sense. As you can see DavidT, I'm starting to believe that it's someone on my network as opposed to my server. I mean, mochahost does insane cleanups of the servers all the time, and have been emailing me to see if I've gotten it resolved (they don't want me being a borg and it looking like it's coming from a mochahost address). I will turn off the catchall immediately after I post this, I haven't been taking any advice for granted. It's just that all of the little tid bits about this seem to have fit together, even though people have been focusing and been making big long posts about all the other mysteries. Trust me, if were the borg computer, the problem would be in my control, so I'd be able to fix it faster.
  3. girl

    No Information Email

    Then I'm totally makin' up stuff from my butt just for fun! Really, earlier this week, I said, "I should find a cool website I've never heard of before, tell them some lies, day after day after day, taking up my time, just for fun." Steven, Yeah ' If I had been left to my own devices to set up my emal again, I would have set it up smtp.daintyrose.net like a blonde, but it's mail.daintyrose.net. I tried auth with ___ but it just wouldn't do anything, just kept saying sending. Then I tried to auth with TLS and it said something like it couldn't talk to the server (I've had this before and it's why I chose no auth) but TLS, if availiable works, and puts me at port 25. So I tested it ("it" being I switched daintyroseemail to daintyrose smtp and sent an email) out, just in case the problem went away, and it magically gave me.. a new error message! Hey, this one includes an ip (or a SonicWall ip which I TOTALLY think that's what it is) in a convoluted way... "The size of the message you are trying to send exceeds the global size limit of the server. The message was not sent, try to reduce the message size and try again. The server responded: 5.7.1 spam Blocked: See http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?70.159.7.113" That's a much more helpful error message. Wish I got it earlier. It's still in the pop up box thing. And the email wasn't "too long" it was like a sentence of text sent in text format (I hate html emails). I've since changed the smtp of that email back to gmail, just to cut anything off. Who's been sending infected emails while that address wasn't connected to that smtp? DavidT, "catchall"? There is an administrator email. I don't ever check it. I had Mochahost delete everything from it recently. It actually wasn't mostly spam when I looked though webmail. Someone had spammed my blog, and I had set up my blog to tell me whenever anyone trackbacked on commented... ...I had always wondered where those indicator emails went. Now I know. *blush* As you see above, I tried to Auth when sending out but it just... didn't work. The TLS, if available did, of course, but I'm guessing only because of the "if available" clause.
  4. girl

    No Information Email

    Wazoo: I don't know how you're helping me. Make another long post that doesn't help me but just quotes me over and over again. And no, I was NOT sending though the UbUntu smtp service. To do advanced linux things (aka, use ubuntu not as a desktop os, because it's meant to be a desktop os) you have to install extra packages. Which I would have consciously done, and I haven't. David, thanks for the attention. Since I just changed the smtp from daintyrose to google and it works, I wasn't able to check the error message a second time (I wrote it out in a previous post and also typed it on my computer). If there's any errors there... it's in punctionation. I probably should have said that. I said "something like" cause I didn't want anyone putting that in an overly sensitive search engine, I had put an extra space between a dash (oh no!) and it didn't come up or something crazy like that. I'm also so anal about stupid this like that because I correct bibliographies for my professors. ' The reason I had to TYPE it out instead of copy and paste like a normal, sane, person would try to do is because, yes, it came up in a little interactive pop up and not an email. So, it may very well be that Thunderbird edited the message. And you're correct, when I sent Steven an email using daintyrosesmtp, I got the error message and he didn't get an email. (though he eventually did get an email because I emailed him using webmail) Steven, "If you got that message when trying to email my spamcop address earlier in this thread, then it is likely the Daintyrose SMTP is using spamcop on your incoming connection and rejecting it because of the Berry.edu listing." Call me a dummy but I don't really understand what that means... or what I can do to fix it. the Daintyrosesmtp settings are just... smtp.daintyrose.net? On my desktop I was using port 0 (like I had typed earlier) but later I switched to my laptop (my linux ati driver is on the fritz on top of all of this ><) and noticed that I'm using port 25.. but it still doesn't work. There aren't any other numbers in my settings besides the port number... so definately no plain out ip and I don't no how to turn smtp.daintyrose.net to an ip. And yes, just in case you're only reading the section devoted to you ( I do that sometimes ) I'll type it again, that message was correct, at least in words. Some of the punctuation was right. But that's all it said, I didn't paraphase. And I'm pretty sure I got the punctuation right... But I just switched from daintyrosesmtp to googlesmtp so I'd have to change back to reproduce the error message.
  5. girl

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    I can follow those links all I want, but why would I ever talk about them if they didn't help me a lick 'cause I didn't see how they helped me because I couldn't comprehend how that information helps me email people? I was using Daintyrose SMTP the whole time. I know perception may be reality, but just because I didn't think it was important enough to spell that out doesn't mean that's not what I was doing. Steven, Thanks again for the help! I'm not sure what the ip for daintyrosesmtp off the top of my head is (Is it different from the domain itself? that's 67.15.104.25), or how to find it, but I did -just- email my host and when I get back from class, I should have an email telling me! I got an error message saying something like... "An error occured while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.3.0 Rejected - see http://www.spamcop.net. Please verify that your email address is correct in your mail preferences and try again." I use Thunderbird. I had two email addresses using the daintyrosesmtp and they both had that error message. One of those same email addresses had the possibility of being webmail, and when I used it on webmail it was fine. Merlyn, "a sonic wall firewall" as in the program "Sonic Wall" because all students are required to install that at Berry. I mean, I haven't because I've got linux and I can't, so the tech people set me up something where I can get on the network without it checking it see if I've got Sonic Wall installed or not (if you don't have it installed, the network wont let you on). We really hate the program... I think it monitors our activity. I have dual boot windows and that half has Sonic Wall, but I never get on it 'cause I'm scared they're gonna see all the stuff I look at. '
  6. girl

    No Information Email

    The smtp server I was using in the first place was my daintyrose server. And yeah, it is weird that the numbers went down, but you also checked it at night, and late at night too (for once I stayed up late). What could I be doing that it would be me and how can I fix this? I realize that google's server is not the best solution, I would rather go back to using my domain's smtp server but that just didn't work for whatever reason and google's did. At this point in my week I'm at a "do what works" level, don't think ahead, just finish the work you have due tomorrow, baby steps. Trust me. If I knew enough about what I was talking about to express it clearer to you, I'd say it like that!
  7. girl

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    In my original research, I just looked up stuff that pertained to me at the time. Which wasn't gmail. Do you think that if I use gmail for a bit (it's working now...) that it will let the numbers die down and then switch back? Or are the numbers that are being counted not the daintyrose smtp, but the full berry ones that keep going up and I can't do a thing about it but... keep getting blocked and never ever ever use my domain email that I've used for years again? (you know, "people like me" who use gmail for the smtp server are probably why spam gets sent from there... maybe gmail should make that not allowed. you know, after I'm done using it to email people until I get my domain fixed that is)
  8. girl

    No Information Email

    You know, I could say stuff that might be interesting to reply to you, but I'm sure you're tired of me. Especially because... I fixed it. I got on gmail and told gmail to pop again, and set up gmails pop on my thunderbird and then set up a second smtp so that gmail was on gmail's smtp and daintyrose was on daintyrose's. Yeah, you don't have to be advanced to do that, I don't know what Thunderbird was talking about. Anyway, gmail worked fine. So then I set up daintyrose to to use gmail's smtp. Last question, do you think I should keep daintyrose using gmail's smtp, or switch it back after a while?
  9. girl

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    That is my berry email account send from online. At Berry, we're "supposed" to use it online. This is because Berry does not like having to deal with tech support questions. I do not like using the online interface, so I took the Berry thing, figured out how to pop it. That SAME EMAIL account does NOT work when I pop it (spamcop message) but DOES work when I use it online (as you can see). I send that same email message from love[at]daintyrose.net from pop and apparently you didn't get it. That's my bigger issue, the "completely broken" email address, if you will. To use pop3 I use Thunderbird on Ubuntu Linux... I'm using the newest Kernel it's 6.something or another. I'd have to go into terminal for the rest of the numbers, but just trust me that it's the latest (update manager it's bugging me). Last time it worked? It didn't work last night. Monday I don't think I tried to email anyone... and I was out of town for about a week before then... so that gives a broad range of when it possibly broke. Send directly from a pc? Is that what I've been doing using smtp? (if so I've been doing it for years and haven't gotten "caught") If I have to set something up differently for my love[at]daintyrose.net, Berry will not give me any support for it. Do you have any suggestions? Moderator Edit: tried to reformat this, again separating quetion, answer stuff .... Note: there is a Forum FAQ, a 'Test' Forum, etc ....
  10. girl

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    Yes, I know you guys are just peeps. I'm familar with the system... I give people help at the ubuntu IRC channel. I emailed Steven both with my broken email (still doesn't work of course) and with my working web mail. Thanks so much guys!
  11. girl

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    so you just said I wont get a reply cause I'm not the owner but it would be incredibly helpful if I emailed him. Should I email or not?
  12. girl

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    Thanks for being so patient! I just went around and started googling ips on random people's computers and all of us get the 70.something blah blah ip! Berry's tech support is students, so you often get a "You're on your own." Especially when you run linux... I had to go through two people to get someone who would recognize that it wasn't a linux problem. I'll stop by there in person. I don't know yet, though, if my laptop works on other ports around campus. Eh, I guess we'll see! (both my laptop and desktop don't email out) Thanks for the luck! I'm going to try to push this out of my mind, get Moes comfort food, and finish my lab report. (sorry, don't know how to do quotes, and I posted the original post around the same time you did) Yeah, I use one smtp. In thunderbird, it says that setting up two SMTP is only recommended for advanced users, which I'm definately not. I only had one, also, when I used to use a combination of daintyrose+gmailpop (I don't use gmail anymore). So though I use two different emails to send out, I use one smtp server for it. Don't ask me how it works, I just did what thunderbird said to do if I'm dumb, made sure that if I was sending from a certain address, the receiver actually only SAW it from that address (they do) and went on my merry little way. Moes. Work. Pretend that it actually will go away in 19 hours and that whatever is happening will not happen agian. Pretend the world actually is just. And no, I haven't sent him one yet, "f this is YOUR (and your alone) IP address, please contact the deputies[at]spamcop.net address from an administrator address and request more information about what has hit the spamtraps. Otherwise, you need to contact your ISP (likely BellSouth, or whoever uses BellSouth connectivity) to deal with the problem." I'm not the sole owner of the IP address... it's Berry's. Or Mochahost's. Should I still contact them?
  13. girl

    No Information Email

    I think it's cause I only half way know what's going on. I feel like that for as many websites on spamcop that I've read, I've become none the wiser. In fact, I feel like I know LESS about how ips and domains and emails work. Right now, I am now confused as to what my IP address is. My network administrator says "It should start with 10.something" and my computer says 10.5.255.255 but when I ask Google, I get 70.159.7.113. And that's from more than one website, I rechecked it. Which scares the crap outta me with you guys saying the 70.159.7.113 is some bad guy. Like I said, I didn't get a rejection notice, if that's that email you got. All I get is an error message saying... "An error occured while sending mail. The mail server responged: 5.3.0 Rejected - see http://www.spamcop.net. Please verify that your email address is correct in your mail preferences and try again." I haven't changed my email address since it worked so.. it's correct. "Who" got blocked is me. Both my personal email account, love[at]daintyrose.net and my school email account. And blocked while sending to my school. I test sending it to myself (personal to personal) and it gets blocked). I just get blocked. The router is not in my room, I have never seen this router, I don't know how many routers there are. All that I've heard of this router is, "Berry College all has the same IP." so I guess there's only one router and I'm on it. I had been told earlier in the year that my bandwidth was split with my roommate "so don't hog it" but I suppose that's a myth. Right now, Bellsouth is having problems. Bellsouth is the only provider here. That's all I really know at this point. A lot of the questions people have been asking me about this (domain host, tech support, here) have been really technical and I'm not totally sure how to answer them. I believe you asked what my outgoing mail config is and I don't know how else to answer it but this... I have a smtp (just one) with mail.daintyrose.net love[at]daintyrose.net being the username, 0 being the port and no authentication. EDIT: >< whatever is doing it, just did it again. my "wait time" or whatever it is just went from 12 hours to 19. Moderator Edit: placed "quote" brackets in to show the flow of questions, answers ....
  14. girl

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    Well, I talked to my tech guys at my school and did you know that if you google "what's my ip" the ip that google gives you isn't always right? so that 70. something number isn't my ip at all. So not only do I not have an email to go on, I don't even have an ip to look up on spam cop and ask it why. My ip is 10.5.255.255 Note how that isn't in the system. The tech guy said that's because my school does some weird warp on the ips. In all of his four years at the school, he hasn't gotten one of the kids here added onto spamcop. What's a spamtrap? Does this have something to do with the fact that I don't have a "real" ip? EDIT: And my friend just pinged my domain for me, 67.15.104.25 which isn't in the system. But if it's not my personal domain, why would my college be causing -just me- problems, when my whole college shares one ip?
  15. I've been blacklisted. I have three emails on my thunderbird account, main one is love[at]daintyrose.net, another one at daintyrose.net (it has my personal name in it, so I'm not going to post it... it doesn't really get any email), and a third email address is my school's address. I don't own the server myself (like have it in my room) but I own server space for daintyrose.net. My host is really anal about keeping things clean... so I don't know how there could be a security breach... I mean, if I don't update my wordpress like a weekafter it comes out, they take it down like it's a bomb. There's another email address, but I don't check it on my computer, and it's the administrator one, daynah[at]daintyrose.net. It's filled with spam, but again, it's never looked at by a computer and it doesn't have a quota. I'm just deleteing it all right now, in case that's the problem. I have linux... so... I know my computer's not gone borg. And if I share my ip address with my roommate in my dorm... she's got a mac. We're windows-virus free. I have to look at all of these continginces because... I didn't get this phantom email I hear about in all these faqs. I've had my email around on the net for a looong time, so I have about four spam protectors/filters on my email and I don't look back to see what it's deleted. My idea, the only thing that's important, it's important enough to send again. I did though ask google what my ip is and look that up in spam cop... 70.159.7.113 and it brings up this report... 70.159.7.113 listed in bl.spamcop.net (127.0.0.2) If there are no reports of ongoing objectionable email from this system it will be delisted automatically in approximately 14 hours. Causes of listing * System has sent mail to SpamCop spam traps in the past week (spam traps are secret, no reports or evidence are provided by SpamCop) Additional potential problems (these factors do not directly result in spamcop listing) * DNS error: 70.159.7.113 has no reverse dns Because of the above problems, express-delisting is not available Listing History In the past 48.6 days, it has been listed 8 times for a total of 16.5 days (the no reverse dns makes sense because I'm in paranoid school where I can't even call out, the phone numbers are scrambled... yeah) So... I really have no idea if it's daintyrose.net or Berry College or... well, you know, actually, I don't know what's going on at all. But here's what I do know. A) I haven't exceeded quota. I'm still receiving emails in my college address, thus, I'm not over quota. Also, I tell thunderbird to delete it after 7 days. For my daintyrose email addresses, there is no quota. The personal ones, I also have it deleted after 7 days. The administrator one there was a problem, but there wasn't a quota associated with it so... even though there was way too many emails and I should get rid of those anyway... no quota to exceed. I just... don't have any autoresponders. I just don't. I don't even know how to set those up on this new server I moved onto. C) I don't have time to spam. Man... if I could make money off of spaming... I mean! Hey, I'm a college student, don't get mad at me for thinking of alternative ways of money. Every college student has thought of whoring themselves out once in their lives... But anyway, all of the daintyrose emails are... me and duplicates of me. And I'm on linux. And my roommate's a mac (btw, she's working fine, so I don't think we're shared). And I talked to my college's tech desk and they're not getting an overwhelming report of spamcop. D) I don't have a bad firewall because... I don't have a firewall at all. Again, linux. E) My php mailer has been taken over my criminals? Has it? I don't know. I emailed my host and menchioned spamcop. I'm sure they're having a panic attack, that's what they do at mochahost when there's a security issue. They're probably taking down my domain right now to see if there's any problems. How do I check for this? F) "the SMTP/Auth exploit of an Exchange server is in progress" I use my school's Exchange server with pop3 in thunderbird, is that okay? The tech guy at my school said it was okay to do except that sometimes it might not remember my password, and he also said other people do it. (come on everyone's doin' it!) Is using the exchange server "exploiting" it? So uh... now the game of "Figure out what I did wrong without the magical email" Here are the steps I've taken to try to do stuff about it. 1) Cleaning out my admin email address (60,000 email addresses... it's taking a few hours) 2) Contacted domain host and let them know and asked for advice 3) Contacted school tech support. They said I'm on my own, but also said that they hadn't heard anything 4) Emailed Spamcop saying dude wtf. 5) And now asking you peoples UBUNTU! Thanks
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