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my blessed ISP has introduced spam filtering rules in the pop server.

75% of my spam I can no longer quick report as I can't get it out of my system through the ISP's pop server.

apart from the obviousness of it being flooded by hackers trying to put it out of commission ....

can we get a spamcop pop server to send spamcop quick reports and/or report submissions to that are accessible direct from my computer without going through the ISP pop server ?

(only [at]spam.spamcop.net emails accepted)

(username/password too?)

I could put a mail exchanger server on my little system here, but that would be technically against ISP rule, no servers.

with a heap of spam, i'm starting to lag with the time it takes to copy paste data and waiting for spamcop screens to load.

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I am technically non-fluent, but I think the answer is probably no.

I think, but I would have to search which isn't one of best suits, that some people have had some luck with getting ISPs to allow spamcop reports through the filters.

The other option, if you want to spend some money, is to open a spamcop email account.

If spam reporting is getting to be a burden, then prioritize your reporting. There are enough reporters that one doesn't have to feel obligated to report every spam (though every little bit is useful). Some reporters report the first ten. Others only report Viagra. Whatever criterion gets your spam load to where you don't mind spending the time. Reporting is better than JHD (just hit delete).

Miss Betsy

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my blessed ISP has introduced spam filtering rules in the pop server.

75% of my spam I can no longer quick report as I can't get it out of my system through the ISP's pop server.

apart from the obviousness of it being flooded by hackers trying to put it out of commission ....

can we get a spamcop pop server to send spamcop quick reports and/or report submissions to that are accessible direct from my computer without going through the ISP pop server ?

(only [at]spam.spamcop.net emails accepted)

(username/password too?)

I could put a mail exchanger server on my little system here, but that would be technically against ISP rule, no servers.

with a heap of spam, i'm starting to lag with the time it takes to copy paste data and waiting for spamcop screens to load.

I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out what you are asking for. You can get SpamCop to POP mail from your ISP (if your ISP supports POP), and then subject it to filtering. However, if your ISP doesn't include known spam in the POP spool, this won't help you.

Can you just tell your ISP to stop filtering your mail? You ought to be able to get them to do this if you want. I am a customer of one of the world's largest ISPs, and I can turn off their (very effective) spam filter with one website visit and a couple of mouse clicks. If you really want to report spam (more than to avoid it), then turning off the filtering might be something to try.

I wrote a page in the Wiki that has some useful suggestions, but I expect you would probably not be interested in taking time to read it.

-- rick

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...my blessed ISP has introduced spam filtering rules in the pop server.

75% of my spam I can no longer quick report as I can't get it out of my system through the ISP's pop server. ...

Optus too eh? That % will probably increase as the filter hits it straps. One thing that seems to work for me ("submit" address) some of the time with another ISP is to send batches with (an older) non-spam as the first attachment. That one may need to to be +50k (some filters give messages that size and larger a "free pass"). Pretty well works for me all the time if that filter-beater is 'header-free' (like an internal Outlook message within a local area network). Maybe a webmail to yourself would do, remembering to take off your local POP black-listing to get that into your email client folders if you have your own address as sender black-listed. Just re-use anything that works, however sourced, indefinitely.

When you're in a really good, patient mood, and if you are not prone to hypertension, try talking to their support about the issue (expect some incomprehension :D ). Could always raise it in Whirlpool I suppose but Optus fanbois would tear you to shreds (and do Optus reps read their forum in WP?). If they agree to whitelist SC "submit"/"quick" addresses through their outwards (SMTP) servers, please let us know - I for one will use it as leverage on my ISP with whom I have so far failed dismally.

No - don't set up a server on a dynamic IP address. They will boot you off their network.

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sorry, half asleep

I meant the outgoing SMTP server.

I knew you meant SMTP outbound server when I wrote my reply.

[Edit:

No - don't set up a server on a dynamic IP address. They will boot you off their network.
Not to mention that huge swathes of Optusnet IPs are already on several blocklists and have 'Poor' sender reputations so you might not be able to send to many places anyway - but the 40 or so Optusnet network outbound SMTP servers are sweet, based on the million or thereabouts daily messages SenderBase 'sees' from that network.

But I'm reconsidering other advice a little, recollecting that 'my' ISP's filtering behaviour will be quite differnt to yours - IIRC mine uses IronPort devices (and silent rejection) on both inwards and SMTP outbound (though of course it lets stuff IN that it doesn't like letting OUT) whereas 'yours' is probably just using a fairly standard collection of blocklists on outbound if you're getting that 5.7.1. multi.surbl.org rejection message. ANYWAY - still probably worth trying the batch submissions I mentioned I think - won't know until tried. At least with SURBL rejection you can be reasonably confident that the URL (at least) has already been the subject of SC report(s) since that BL takes quite a bit of its feed from sc.surbl.org which is is sourced through SpamCop (without being part of SC).]

Edited by Farelf

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