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ThunderBird 3 and SpamCop

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I loaded the new T-bird ver 3 and tried to report some spam using my quick account using the same approach as with T-bird 2 and I got an error message email back for SpamCop.

Standard approach has been:

1. open an email addressed correctly to Spamcop

2. drag and drop spam on the SpamCop email, one at a time or in groups

3 send email to Spamcop

Receiving

SpamCop encountered errors while saving spam for processing:

SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email:

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First thought would be a configuration issue, the 'dragged in e-mails' being sent as in-line rather than attachments.

This would be berified by doing a CC: to yet another address to see how it's sent/delivered.

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Yes, my first thought too. Looking at the source (ctrl U) of my copies from ver 2 and ver 3 they seem similar. Still digging.

what I see is the format of the attachment. The older version left the attachment in plan text format as in

--------------050808000101040302090909

Content-Type: message/rfc822;

name="[Norton AntiSpam]Join to healthy nation"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Content-Disposition: inline;

filename="[Norton AntiSpam]Join to healthy nation"

X-Account-Key: account2

X-Mozilla-Keys: $label2

Return-Path: <convention8[at]rotopass.com>

Ver 3 encodes it in base64 - including the header

--------------020409020306070902020709

Content-Type: text/html;

name="Attached Message Part"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

Content-Disposition: attachment;

filename="Attached Message Part"

PGh0bWw+DQo8aGVhZD4NCjx0aXRsZT5bTm9ydG9uIEFudGlTcGFtXVJlOjwvdGl0bGU+DQo8

I did change the config file to "attachment-inline" false. but no change

Edited by Lking

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In the event no other user has found the answer to respond here, the blog at http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging seems to be dedicated to finding answers/solutions ("Community-powered support " and "Mozilla Messaging employees are here to help."). Maybe worth a post there? Or the solution might already be there, somewhere (I couldn't see it though).

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Yes, my first thought too. Looking at the source (ctrl U) of my copies from ver 2 and ver 3 they seem similar. Still digging.

what I see is the format of the attachment. The older version left the attachment in plan text format as in

Ver 3 encodes it in base64 - including the header

I did change the config file to "attachment-inline" false. but no change

Message/Forward As/Attachment

Bit of a pain - but beats Outlook...

-- tim --

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Message/Forward As/Attachment

200-300 times a day??? I think not.

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Thought you were into endless repition Lou? With your sig and all - http://www.texaschapbookpress.com/magellan...34/sisyphus.gif

But yeah, as suggested above, the blog/forum whatever it is ...

Yep, I have a entry at getsatisfaction. No response yet. Thinking about giving Don a buzz. I have everything set for 'send as attachment' so we will see.

As for my buddy Sisyphus, well lets not start that again.

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...Thinking about giving Don a buzz. I have everything set for 'send as attachment' so we will see. ...
Might be a good idea - he may have some information. IIRC he's said he never looks in this forum so writing to him is the only way to be sure he's aware. Just make sure he's cool to be quoted before posting anything he says 'in private'.
...As for my buddy Sisyphus, well lets not start that again. ...
:lol:

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Just make sure he's cool to be quoted before posting anything he says 'in private'. :lol:

:excl:

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Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose

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Is it possible to add decoding of base 64-encoded attachments to the Spamcop reporting system? I have to use Thunderbird 2 until this issue is solved.

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Is it possible to add decoding of base 64-encoded attachments to the Spamcop reporting system? I have to use Thunderbird 2 until this issue is solved.

I don't know that this option does not already exist, but other options include asking Thunderbird to restore at least the option of plain text attachments or, since it is open source, fix it yourself.

Looks like someone already submitted a bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messagi...zilla_messaging

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Looks like someone already submitted a bug report: http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messagi...zilla_messaging

Yes I did.

They seem to want to handle it as a local display issue, not the underlying file format issue which effects both local display of the message by TBird 3 and a received app (SpamCop's parser).

The work around suggested earlier does work - Forward as attachment. Although denied in other places, I can select (highlight) several spam and then click on Forward resulting in all attached spam being in multi-part MIME format which works with SpamCop.

What is lost by this workaround is being able to use a pre-addressed message template, so multiple address must be entered each time (SpamCop, coldrain, uce.gov etc.). Also the From: line on the new outgoing message is picked up from one of the attached spam and needs to be checked - otherwise reporting email could be send from badaddress{at}mydomain.com. The Subject: line is also picked up from, I suppose, the first attachment so it is, Fwd: spam's subject line.

Life is a bother. But given the alternative...

Edited by Lking

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Hello,

A developer made an update for TB3 of Habu extension which allows to report all mails marked as junk to Spamcop, Knujon, FTC, FDA, SEC and ACMA in a same time.

https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/2672

The link is on bottom of the page, in the reviews :

http://www.shroomery.org/ythan/habu-1.8.6.5a-tb.xpi

It works for me on Thundebird 3, both normal and quick report for Spamcop.

:)

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So what is your link (that I broke) trying to load on my computer?

An update version of Habu addon which is compatible with Thundebird 3 and allows to report multiple mails to Spamcop in one time.

Of course, this is not the official update and has not been verified by Mozilla, so you can scan it or open xpi file with a zip manager to study the code, to be sure it is safe.

It's working for me with TB3 on Ubuntu.

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An update version of Habu addon which is compatible with Thundebird 3 and allows to report multiple mails to Spamcop in one time. ...
Just to explain for others, Ythan is the person who wrote this interim-unofficial modification to the add-in and is a moderator on one of the shroomery bulletin boards - and he has made it available in his workspace at shroomery.org.

I see the file habu-1.8.6.5a-tb.xpi 17.7 KB (18,137 bytes)

MD5: 2c32bc293bef1854c558089f00fa4ebd

SHA-1: e7b7d98b15a9c236723305776a289bfe713a0e9e

VirusTotal scan http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/e2b5b06...bbf6-1263399502

Results: 0/41 (threats/AV scans - ah Symantec is back in the fold)

trid..: Mozilla Firefox browser extension (66.6%)

ZIP compressed archive (33.3%)

Autodesk FLIC Image File (extensions: flc, fli, cel) (0.0%)

Sorry - I would have done the scans before and posted results but I had to find a way to download the file without it installing which it wants to do with SM and Ffx. IE8 is cool with it though, I found.

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If you guys are worried about installing unverified code, these are the changes I made to restore Thunderbird 3 compatibility to Habu. You can apply the diff to a clean copy of Habu 1.8.6.5 if you like.

diff -r habu1.8.6.5/chrome/content/okopipi.js habu1.8.6.5a/chrome/content/okopipi.js
45c45
&lt;	 params.identity = accountManager.getFirstIdentityForServer(GetLoadedMsgFolder().server);
---
&gt;	 params.identity = accountManager.getFirstIdentityForServer(gFolderDisplay.displayedFolder.server);
66c66
&lt; 			window.setTimeout('var view = GetDBView();var treeView = view.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.nsITreeView);if(treeView.rowCount == 0) {gHaveLoadedMessage = true;ClearMessagePane();}', 1);
---
&gt; 			window.setTimeout('var view = gFolderDisplay.view.dbView;var treeView = view.QueryInterface(Components.interfaces.nsITreeView);if(treeView.rowCount == 0) {gHaveLoadedMessage = true;ClearMessagePane();}', 1);
71c71,72
&lt;	 var view = GetDBView();
---
&gt;	 // var view = GetDBView();
&gt;	 var view = gFolderDisplay.view.dbView;
97c98
&lt; 		SetNextMessageAfterDelete();
---
&gt; 		// SetNextMessageAfterDelete();
104c105
&lt;	 var view = GetDBView();
---
&gt;	 var view = gDBView;
107c108
&lt;	 view.doCommand(nsMsgViewCommandType.expandAll);
---
&gt;	 //view.doCommand(nsMsgViewCommandType.expandAll);
diff -r habu1.8.6.5/install.rdf habu1.8.6.5a/install.rdf
14c14
&lt;		 &lt;em:maxVersion&gt;3.0b2pre&lt;/em:maxVersion&gt;
---
&gt;		 &lt;em:maxVersion&gt;3.0.0.*&lt;/em:maxVersion&gt;
27c27
&lt;	 &lt;em:version&gt;1.8.6.5&lt;/em:version&gt;
---
&gt;	 &lt;em:version&gt;1.8.6.5a&lt;/em:version&gt;

Cheers,

-Y

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...You can apply the diff to a clean copy of Habu 1.8.6.5 if you like. ...
(see previous for code) Thanks Ythan, you're very helpful.

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I tried it on Lanikai 3.1 Beta 1 (after modifying the qualifying version string).

It worked twice. I submitted two blocks of ~200 messages each. On the 3rd try, it got about 75% through the "Delivering mail..." popup, then hanged Thunderbird...none of the 3 tbird windows would respond to anything other than kill -9.

A developer made an update for TB3 of Habu extension which allows to report all mails marked as junk to Spamcop, Knujon, FTC, FDA, SEC and ACMA in a same time.

https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/thunderbird/addon/2672

The link is on bottom of the page, in the reviews :

//[/i]www.shroomery.org/ythan/habu-1.8.6.5a-tb.xpi"]http://www.shroomery.org/ythan/habu-1.8.6.5a-tb.xpi

It works for me on Thundebird 3, both normal and quick report for Spamcop.

When Habu does work, if I start to send a report, realize I'm using the wrong originating email address, and hit cancel, Habu deletes all the spam from my current folder.

It should wait until after the message is actually sent, if that's possible.

shroomery link broken because it currently/still wants to download 'something' without authorisation. Still intact in original post.

Edited by Farelf

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If you guys are worried about installing unverified code, these are the changes I made to restore Thunderbird 3 compatibility to Habu. You can apply the diff to a clean copy of Habu 1.8.6.5 if you like.

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but does this still work in 3.1? If so, how do I install the diff file above? I'm on linux. I changed the version in install.rdf, but when I click on the shield icon it does absolutely nothing.

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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but does this still work in 3.1? If so, how do I install the diff file above? I'm on linux. I changed the version in install.rdf, but when I click on the shield icon it does absolutely nothing.

If no other member here is able to advise, you may need to contact Ythan. Note I have disabled the link above due to persistent 'behavioural problems' with browsers/browser configurations in Windows. Another suggestion might be the Habu support forum:

http://forums.mosinu.com/viewforum.php?f=5

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If no other member here is able to advise, you may need to contact Ythan. Note I have disabled the link above due to persistent 'behavioural problems' with browsers/browser configurations in Windows. Another suggestion might be the Habu support forum:

http://forums.mosinu.com/viewforum.php?f=5

Thanks. I checked the forums and found this post: http://forums.mosinu.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41

It appears to work with TB 3.1, however you have to modify the maxVersion variable in the install.rdf file to allow it to install. I would upload it here, but it doesn't seem to allow that.

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