Is registering as a contact at RIPE without e-mailaddress allowed by RIPE?

[ZapZombie 0]

Is registering as a contact at RIPE without e-mailaddress allowed by RIPE? ???

For several months I am receiving lots of spam from one organization, that found their way to hosts without e-mailaddress registered at RIPE, for their spamvertized website. They keep on creating new urls and finding hosts. They even managed to get hold of three of my e-mail addresses. That baffles me.

Edited June 5, 2012 by ZapZombie

[turetzsr 0]

Hi, ZapZombie,

...It's unlikely that anyone here, even if they could guess at an answer, would know as well as RIPE staff themselves, so I'd strongly encourage you to try to find a way to pose the question to them.

...As your question does not have to do with SpamCop reporting, I have taken the liberty of moving this from the "SpamCop Reporting Help" Forum to the "SpamCop Lounge" Forum.

[rconner 0]

Is registering as a contact at RIPE without e-mailaddress allowed by RIPE?

Well, I don't know whether it is allowed or not, but from what I see it happens all the time especially for obscure providers (former USSR).

Sometimes, if you can identify an upstream from the block info, you might find an address there, but that takes more time than I usually have to spend on the matter.

-- rick

[petzl 0]

Is registering as a contact at RIPE without e-mailaddress allowed by RIPE? ???

For several months I am receiving lots of spam from one organization, that found their way to hosts without e-mailaddress registered at RIPE, for their spamvertized website. They keep on creating new urls and finding hosts. They even managed to get hold of three of my e-mail addresses. That baffles me.

Probably spambot/webcrawler getting email?

Contacting RIPE

http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/conta...act-information

It's the registrar that controls webpages (for spamvertised web sites you need to find final link)

I notice though that rogue registrars often set up by spammers

Suspect OVH.net being one? Maybe in financial difficulties? All the signs there, seen it before

They have an address that Tracerts to France but now claim it's country is a UK IP?

178.32.49.179

organisation: ORG-OL17-RIPE

org-name: OVH Ltd

org-type: OTHER

address: 3 Southwark street

address: LONDON SE1 1RQ

address: UK

Google shows me a Cafe at this address?

http://www.london-se1.co.uk/restaurants/in...08/harpers-cafe

Edited June 5, 2012 by petzl

[ZapZombie 0]

...

It's unlikely that anyone here, even if they could guess at an answer, would know as well as RIPE staff themselves, so I'd strongly encourage you to try to find a way to pose the question to them.

As your question does not have to do with SpamCop reporting, I have taken the liberty of moving this from the "SpamCop Reporting Help" Forum to the "SpamCop Lounge" Forum.

I was reading many times "No reporting addresses found" for spamvertised websites, that I began wondering why the e-mailaddresses aren't there and what we could do to be able to report without sending faxes or envelopes or calling by phone. Hence my question.

With your suggestion to pose the question to RIPE, you have a point.

[ZapZombie 0]

Now that I have read that Linkedin emailaddresses and passwords are obtained by russian hackers, I recognize my three spammed emailaddresses from using at Linkedin. Fits with the location of the spamvertised websites.

[ZapZombie 0]

Update: Hereby the questions I posed to RIPE, as suggested by turetzsr [at] Jun 5 2012, 12:56 PM, and the first answer by RIPE. I have answered RIPE that my questions are not answered and I have reposed the questions. More later.

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:18:51 +0200, x wrote:

> Hello RIPE worker,

>

> As a spamcop.net forum member I have some questions, for which I want to

> share your answers with the other spamcop.net forum members.

> Does RIPE permit registration of report contacts without email address?

> What can I do to urge registration of such an emailaddress?

>

> In spamcop.net reports of processing my spamvertisement reports, I read

> that in the RIPE information of several contacts to report to for a

> spamvertised website there is no e-mailaddress. For instance in the data

> for the person with nic-hdl DJ1955-RIPE to whom I want to report a

> spamvertised betting website via spamcop.net.

>

> Regards,

> x

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-------- Originele bericht --------

Onderwerp: Re: NCC#x questions about report contacts without email address

Datum: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 14:13:10 +0200

Van: RIPE NCC <ncc[at]ripe.net>

Antwoord-naar: RIPE NCC <ncc[at]ripe.net>

Aan: x

Dear Sir/Madam,

thank you for your email.

The RIPE NCC is an independent, not-for-profit membership organisation.

We are one of the five Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) responsible

for the allocation of blocks of IP address space to Local Internet

Registries (LIRs), which are mostly Internet Service Providers. LIRs

then assign addresses to End Users.

The RIPE NCC is *NOT* a service provider and has no jurisdiction over,

or responsibility for, how the allocated IP numbers are used.

The RIPE NCC runs a publicly available database that allows

users to look up the contact information for the organisations

responsible for particular IP address space.

https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html

You can see the information for nic-hdl DJ1955-RIPE in the database:

https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?...=#resultsAnchor

More information regarding network abuse is available on our website at:

http://www.ripe.net/data-tools/db/faq/faq-hacking-spamming

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-409

http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/legal/legal-information

--

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

Best regards,

Anna Pronicheva

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RIPE NCC

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[Farelf 0]

Thanks ZapZombie. Password and Linkedin discussion split out and moved to

http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=12482

[ZapZombie 0]

Update 2: the second answer from RIPE, by Henriette van Ingen

-------- Originele bericht --------

Onderwerp: Re: NCC#x questions about report contacts without email address

Datum: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:21:42 +0200

Van: RIPE Database Manager <ripe-dbm[at]ripe.net>

Antwoord-naar: RIPE Database Manager <ripe-dbm[at]ripe.net>

Aan: x

Hello x,

To start with, the person object DJ1955-RIPE contains an email

address, but it is filtered. RIPE NCC filters personal data in the

databse in order to prevent abuse of personal data.

When using the -B flag in the database, it will show you the email address:

https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?...=#resultsAnchor

Please note that it is currently not mandatory to provide an email

address in a person object, however, it is mandatory for an

organisation object. All allocations (and therefore assignments) are

linked to an organisation object and therefore an email address is

always traceable. This is not the case for Independent Resources (PI

address space and AS numbers) as they are not obliged to have an

organisation object.

There has been lively discussions about this subject on our anti-abuse

working group mailing list. Especially about the correctness of the

email address provided. Please have a look in the archives and you can

sign up and read/join the discussion.

--

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us.

Best regards,

Henriette van Ingen

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Customer Services

RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Customer Satisfaction Survey

*************************************

Tell us about your customer services experience by filling out the

anonymous, three-question RIPE NCC customer satisfaction survey:

https://www.ripe.net/contact/survey/satisfaction-cs/

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 09:18:51 +0200, x wrote:

> Hello RIPE worker,

>

> As a spamcop.net forum member I have some questions, for which I want to

> share your answers with the other spamcop.net forum members.

> Does RIPE permit registration of report contacts without email address?

> What can I do to urge registration of such an emailaddress?

>

> In spamcop.net reports of processing my spamvertisement reports, I read

> that in the RIPE information of several contacts to report to for a

> spamvertised website there is no e-mailaddress. For instance in the data

> for the person with nic-hdl DJ1955-RIPE to whom I want to report a

> spamvertised betting website via spamcop.net.

>

> Regards,

> x