labboypro Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 I've been reporting spam to Spamcop for several months, using Spambully (and related required "stuff") on my Windows 2008 Server system (in this case, mail is just Outlook 2007 client, no mail server in use). This included a magic button on my Outlook toolbar whereby it would roll up a particular piece of spam, send off the report to Spamcop, and dump the message in the trash. Last night was MSFT patch night... and after reboot, the button/functionality is gone. So now I am unable to send spam reports via Outlook. I've searched, but could not locate the original (rather cobbled) documentation for setting this stuff up in the first place. Suggestions on getting this working again? I am a general techie, but am now old and crusty, so any advice you can offer... please type slowly Thanks, Kenneth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turetzsr Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi, Kenneth, ...Sorry to hear of your problem. If no helpful replies are forthcoming here, I would recommend that you try contacting SpamBully (http://www.spambully.com/contact.php). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Hi, Kenneth, ...Sorry to hear of your problem. If no helpful replies are forthcoming here, I would recommend that you try contacting SpamBully (http://www.spambully.com/contact.php). Was going to simply "reinstall" per the instructions that were on Spamcop site, but they seem to have disappeared. Anyone got a pointer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Was going to simply "reinstall" per the instructions that were on Spamcop site, but they seem to have disappeared. Anyone got a pointer? Whats the products name? Try here? http://www.daesoft.com/index.php?option=co...8&Itemid=75 or here? http://www.spamgrabber.org/download.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted June 7, 2012 Author Share Posted June 7, 2012 Whats the products name? Try here? http://www.daesoft.com/index.php?option=co...8&Itemid=75 or here? http://www.spamgrabber.org/download.shtml I'm sorry for the vagueness of my original post. When I first visited THIS SITE (Spamcop.net), I set up this tool using info from THIS SITE, or possibly linked from THIS SITE. I didn't build a personal solution to utilize Spamcop... I just followed the instructions on the site on how to integrate Spamcop reporting into Outlook. That is what I can no longer find on the site... that is what is broken on my Outlook client. Thanks for your effort to help. I hope the above provided additional clarification of what I'm looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi Kenneth, Possibly you were looking at http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/122.html One of the products has been removed from there. You can still find the old page with the wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20051124092834/.../cache/122.html ... and it seems the "missing" one was Ѕpam Deputy for Outlook 2000 by Henri Fournier which is gone (landing site only), not sure if it would work with Outlook 2007 anyway. Hope it was one of the others and not this one you were using, if you were using any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Hi Kenneth, Possibly you were looking at http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/122.html One of the products has been removed from there. You can still find the old page with the wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/web/20051124092834/.../cache/122.html ... and it seems the "missing" one was Ð…pam Deputy for Outlook 2000 by Henri Fournier which is gone (landing site only), not sure if it would work with Outlook 2007 anyway. Hope it was one of the others and not this one you were using, if you were using any of them. That's the page! Thanks... while I may be going senile, at least it's not because I hallucinated that info on the site. Will dig into it and try to reinstal whichever helper I had so I can return to reporting these spammers. BTW, the reason I called it "Spambully" in my OP is that something (perhaps Spamgrabber??) left a residual element inside of Outlook toolbar called "Spambully 4"... that is, in the place where the "magic button" I originally referred to was, there was a Toolbar section called "Spambully" that didn't have any buttons in it. Now that I've reinstalled Spamgrabber, there are buttons again. Maybe Spambully 4 and Spamgrabber are the same thing??? In any case, it's working again. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Great that you've fixed it Kenneth - and thanks for coming back to confirm it (surprisingly some neglect that step - or didn't find a solution - we'll never know). Marking this "Resolved" to assist any others in finding the answer. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H5OH Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Great that you've fixed it Kenneth - and thanks for coming back to confirm it (surprisingly some neglect that step - or didn't find a solution - we'll never know). Marking this "Resolved" to assist any others in finding the answer. Steve Does this auto-forwarding still work with Spamcop? A while ago it was discovered that Outlook shuffles header lines, making parsing impossible or inaccurate. We were all asked to desist from auto-forward. I pre-scan with good old "POP3 Scan Mailbox" and cut/paste raw original text to the Spamcop reporting page. That's rather tedious when lots are to be sent, so if there's now an acceptable, quicker, way I'd be delighted to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Does this auto-forwarding still work with Spamcop? A while ago it was discovered that Outlook shuffles header lines, making parsing impossible or inaccurate. We were all asked to desist from auto-forward. I pre-scan with good old "POP3 Scan Mailbox" and cut/paste raw original text to the Spamcop reporting page. That's rather tedious when lots are to be sent, so if there's now an acceptable, quicker, way I'd be delighted to use it. You have to add a prgram to your version of outlook then no troubles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H5OH Posted June 10, 2012 Share Posted June 10, 2012 You have to add a prgram to your version of outlook then no troubles Thanks petzl. Sadly doesn't look like there's anything for Outlook 2007.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted June 11, 2012 Author Share Posted June 11, 2012 Thanks petzl. Sadly doesn't look like there's anything for Outlook 2007.. Not so. The tool that prompted me to create this post is available for 2007, it is what I was using, and what I have since reinstalled from the links farelf provided, and am using now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Not so. The tool that prompted me to create this post is available for 2007, it is what I was using, and what I have since reinstalled from the links farelf provided, and am using now. Try here (Farelf's link) http://www.spamgrabber.org/download.shtml The best defense is attack so go to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C2H5OH Posted June 11, 2012 Share Posted June 11, 2012 Try here (Farelf's link) http://www.spamgrabber.org/download.shtml The best defense is attack so go to it Thanks again petzl, duly downloaded; a little project for later :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Try here (Farelf's link) http://www.spamgrabber.org/download.shtml The best defense is attack so go to it Spamgrabber.org compromised? Today, when I download from the link above, it gives me a setup.exe file. When I execute the exe, it fired up IE (default browser), and then downloaded a .vsto file ... neither I, nor my machine know what a .vsto extension represents. Then, a few seconds later, my Norton Security Suite threw up a "threat" flag identifying a couple of malware items (I dismissed it before noting the names... and I haven't manage to navigate through the NSS to find logs of what it found). I'm just trying to set up the Spamgrabber plug-in on another Outlook 2007 client. I've been using Spamgrabber to assist in spam processing with Spamcop for a couple of years, so I know it's supposed to be legit... when the right thing gets installed. Anyone? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamCopAdmin Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Here are other Outlook utilities: SpamControl Outlook Tool by Hendrickson Software Components http://www.hendricom.com/purifypreview.html SpamSource for Outlook http://www.daesoft.com/SpamSource/index.htm MailWasher http://www.mailwasher.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Here are other Outlook utilities: SpamControl Outlook Tool by Hendrickson Software Components http://www.hendricom.com/purifypreview.html SpamSource for Outlook http://www.daesoft.com/SpamSource/index.htm MailWasher http://www.mailwasher.net/ Thanks for the additional pointers. I posted a question on SpamGrabber support board, but no response... perhaps the effort has been abandoned (??). I have a feeling that I'm just missing some key MSFT prerequisite on my system... but I don't know what that might be, and I haven't found any documentation to help. For your links above, SpamControl Outlook Tool link is 404. Mailwasher looks to be some kind of "full on" application that intercedes between server and Outlook, which seems overly intrusive for my "simple" objective of reporting spam to SpamCop. SpamSource may work... I'm going to give it a try. If not, I guess the spammers win... and I won't be able to report spammers to SpamCop, since I need something simple and "button clicky" to do it. Any idea how I find out the super-secret reporting URL (or whatever it is) so I can configure this SpamSource to report to SpamCop? IIRC, there was some kind of personalized URL that is associated with me that I had to configure into the old SpamGrabber plug-in. Edit: I found my super-secret email reporting address in my SpamCop account info. I have added that to the SpamSource config and have successfully submitted one piece of spam to SpamCop (a second submission came back with a "incomplete headers, nothing to do" message... so I'm not 100% certain I have this new plug-in correctly configured, or if it was just a piece of spam that truly could not be processes... I've never seen that message before in several years of reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 ...or if it was just a piece of spam that truly could not be processes... I've never seen that message before in several years of reporting.You can paste in such spam into the on-line submission form at your reporting account page to see whether the error is due to misconfigured/miscopied spam or an artifact of the e-mail submission. You can obtain a tracking URL, even for rejected submissions (from the head of the parse page, before you dismiss it) for discussion should you wish. You can parse a piece of spam as many times as you wish - as long as you cancel any surplus reports (which isn't a factor when the response is "nothing to do"). If that all sounds a bit confusing, play around with it (webform submission) a bit - you'll soon see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 You can paste in such spam into the on-line submission form at your reporting account page to see whether the error is due to misconfigured/miscopied spam or an artifact of the e-mail submission. You can obtain a tracking URL, even for rejected submissions (from the head of the parse page, before you dismiss it) for discussion should you wish. You can parse a piece of spam as many times as you wish - as long as you cancel any surplus reports (which isn't a factor when the response is "nothing to do"). If that all sounds a bit confusing, play around with it (webform submission) a bit - you'll soon see. Thanks. based on the above suggestions, it looks like the bad reports were indeed spam that couldn't be parsed... the plug-in submitted them correctly, but the headers didn't have any info SC could get out of them. So, things are working on my end again. Yay. Back to fighting the spammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Good result, thanks for the feedback (and we can leave this one "Resolved"). If you suspect that anything associated with your handling of the data is leading to the mangling of it, don't forget you could post a tracking URL and ask about it (doesn't seem likely if some/most work fine). Anyway, go get 'em! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 Good result, thanks for the feedback (and we can leave this one "Resolved"). If you suspect that anything associated with your handling of the data is leading to the mangling of it, don't forget you could post a tracking URL and ask about it (doesn't seem likely if some/most work fine). Anyway, go get 'em! Well... maybe I don't know what I'm looking at. I got more of these that say the header is incomplete. (2/2 reported this morning)... See http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5504259606zd...a6f97ea763bc45z and http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5504258318ze...18d209b0ef999dz as examples. Edit: and another (that makes 3/3 this morning) http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5504288022z1...c342088ac6237ez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Aagh - yes, thoroughly mangled, line continuations muffed (necessary space in left-hand margins lost) and extraneous blank lines within headers introduced. Also something wrong in the bodies of two of them (possibly the original spam is misconfigured in that part or maybe further mangling introduced after delivery). Looks like something within your network or your processing gone awry, following the delivery of the spam, possibly that spam detection software, running on the system "viper.tchmachines.com" or maybe after that, I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to tell which. That viper.tchmachines.com handling looks to me like it would need to be part of your mailhosting setup too, maybe it is but we can't tell since your parsing bombs too soon. Here's what the headers would look like if they weren't mangled and what a non-mailhosted parse would look like: http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5504373588zb...eb4413bf972f00z http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5504387113z3...de5f17ce3adde6z http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5504393792z7...86dcf1d27a4a2cz Hopefully others here, better at reading headers than am I, can review and comment further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labboypro Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 Hopefully others here, better at reading headers than am I, can review and comment further. The mail server side is unchanged for the past several years. The only thing new is that I'm using Outlook 2007 client on a different machine to read the mail, and per my questions/issues above, a different "helper" within Outlook to submit the spam. On the old email client, submissions went without a hitch, so, while I have no idea of the technical aspects of my mail server, I am confident that the issue isn't there. And since Outlook 2007 is (likely) the same installation config as it was on the old machine (because I installed from the same CD and clicked through all defaults), the only 2 things left are the SpamSource plug-in configuration or the SpamCop server itself. If it were the latter, I would expect to see a LOT of discussion from others. Ugh. As an experiment-of-ignorance, I just toggled SpamSource's "Send report as attachment" option to ON. We'll see if I get any different results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farelf Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 ...I just toggled SpamSource's "Send report as attachment" option to ON. We'll see if I get any different results.Umm ... yes, that should fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave1977nj Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 spamgrabber is down. Any alternatives to it for office 2010? Mailwasher is a separate program.. and SpamSource doesn't work for me/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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