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I'd love to see one set of user-defined recipients that default checked even for Quick Reports (like the FTC and my monitoring address) and another (much larger) set of categorized user-defined recipients that default unchecked (FDA; USPIS; SEC, NASD, NASAA, FDIC, and Treasury; hostmasters for .biz and .us; anti-piracy organizations Microsoft, Symantec, Adobe, NAI, MPAA, BSA, RIAA, SPA, and SIAA; anti-spam organizations or departments in Italy, Korea, the Netherlands, and China; Visa; and anti-kiddie-porn organizations).

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I'd love to see one set of user-defined recipients that default checked even for Quick Reports (like the FTC and my monitoring address) and another (much larger) set of categorized user-defined recipients that default unchecked (FDA; USPIS; SEC, NASD, NASAA, FDIC, and Treasury; hostmasters for .biz and .us; anti-piracy organizations Microsoft, Symantec, Adobe, NAI, MPAA, BSA, RIAA, SPA, and SIAA; anti-spam organizations or departments in Italy, Korea, the Netherlands, and China; Visa; and anti-kiddie-porn organizations).

I think these would be abused. People would just check them all. And people would get the mentality that the more places they sent their spam report, the better.

For instance, the USPIS could potentially be a spam report recipient for essentially anything physical you order, right? So, would you send the USPIS a spam report for every single prescription drug spam? I doubt they want the spams or could deal with the volume.

For that matter, do any of these agencies do anything at all with any spam reports? I know the FTC is rumored to maybe catalog them. What does the FDIC have to do with anything? Or the NASD? They don't regulate stocks, they're the National Association of Securities Dealers. They organize and maybe regulate to some degree stockbrokers, not stocks.

I think you'd find that if we all started submitting reports to all of these people, they'd just shut off their email addresses because they can't actually handle the volumes and these aren't workable cases anyway. For the very few cases they actually can work, the most egregious abusers, I imagine they get enough reports already.

JT

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I'd love to see one set of user-defined recipients that default checked even for Quick Reports (like the FTC and my monitoring address) and another (much larger) set of categorized user-defined recipients that default unchecked (FDA; USPIS; SEC, NASD, NASAA, FDIC, and Treasury; hostmasters for .biz and .us; anti-piracy organizations Microsoft, Symantec, Adobe, NAI, MPAA, BSA, RIAA, SPA, and SIAA; anti-spam organizations or departments in Italy, Korea, the Netherlands, and China; Visa; and anti-kiddie-porn organizations).

I think these would be abused. People would just check them all. And people would get the mentality that the more places they sent their spam report, the better.

For instance, the USPIS could potentially be a spam report recipient for essentially anything physical you order, right? So, would you send the USPIS a spam report for every single prescription drug spam? I doubt they want the spams or could deal with the volume.

For that matter, do any of these agencies do anything at all with any spam reports? I know the FTC is rumored to maybe catalog them. What does the FDIC have to do with anything? Or the NASD? They don't regulate stocks, they're the National Association of Securities Dealers. They organize and maybe regulate to some degree stockbrokers, not stocks.

I think you'd find that if we all started submitting reports to all of these people, they'd just shut off their email addresses because they can't actually handle the volumes and these aren't workable cases anyway. For the very few cases they actually can work, the most egregious abusers, I imagine they get enough reports already.

JT

...FWIW: I kind of like this idea. I also agree with JeffG about the likelihood of abuse. Might the solution to this possible problem be to allow us users (<fingers crossed />even free reporting users) to add our own list of recipients that would be presented to us unchecked, so we could check them when we believe it is relevant?

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I'd love to see one set of user-defined recipients that default checked even for Quick Reports (like the FTC and my monitoring address) and another (much larger) set of categorized user-defined recipients that default unchecked (FDA; USPIS; SEC, NASD, NASAA, FDIC, and Treasury; hostmasters for .biz and .us; anti-piracy organizations Microsoft, Symantec, Adobe, NAI, MPAA, BSA, RIAA, SPA, and SIAA; anti-spam organizations or departments in Italy, Korea, the Netherlands, and China; Visa; and anti-kiddie-porn organizations).

For instance, the USPIS could potentially be a spam report recipient for essentially anything physical you order, right? So, would you send the USPIS a spam report for every single prescription drug spam? I doubt they want the spams or could deal with the volume.

IIRC, the USPIS wants reports about chain letters and other scams that violate the Postal Lottery and other statues at fraud at uspis.gov per http://www.seniors.gov/consumer.html and http://www.dca.ca.gov/legal/mail.pdf and http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1998/11/auctions.htm and http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/fed_pro...es/fedsales.htm .

What does the FDIC have to do with anything?
IIRC, the FDIC wants reports about fraudulent attempts to obtain personal information from consumers by people impersonating FDIC representatives per http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/press/2004/pr0604.html at alert at fdic.gov.

Or the NASD? They don't regulate stocks, they're the National Association of Securities Dealers. They organize and maybe regulate to some degree stockbrokers, not stocks.
IIRC, the NASD provides the trading mechanism for OTC stocks, and wants to keep watch over pump-and-dump schemes promoted via email by receiving reports about them at ombuds at nasd.com.

For my account, I would uncheck all the ones you asked about by default.

Edited by JeffG

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For that matter, do any of these agencies do anything at all with any spam reports? I know the FTC is rumored to maybe catalog them.

More information on what the FTC does can be found at http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2004/07/newspamemail.shtm

I think that the Quick Reporting feature should allow spam[at]UCE.GOV to be a default recipient for user-defined reports. I hope to see this added in the future.

Edited by sgsilver

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... another (much larger) set of categorized user-defined recipients that default unchecked (FDA; USPIS; SEC, NASD, NASAA, FDIC, and Treasury; ...

To solve the same problem I do the following using Thunderbird:

I have identified 6 Tags and categories of spam that I bother to report to places other than SpamCop (Drugs, SW, Stocks, PinkSheet stocks, etc)

I also have an email template addressed for each category/tag.

As I go through the email/spam, I tag each based on the category and put it in the spam folder

Sort the spam folder by tag, and than attach the groups of spam to the correct template and send to whoever along with sending a Bcc copy to quick reporting.

DON'T forget to use the BCC to hide your quick/submit code

This way I don't have to go to SpamCop 100 or so times daily to check the user-defined recipients.

Lou

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