msealey

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They continue to push their muck my way too - relentlessly.

I now have cases open to stop them at two BBBs, two D/As (both in California); and two ICANN cases for lack of compliance; as well as a couple of 'inquiries' in to Uniregistry (most of their spamvertised sites are .links).

And all the filtering I can throw at them.

Each time they - effectively - impersonate a (major) company… CVS, the health providers etc, I forward to those co.s' abuse depts too.

Am also reporting here every one I get.

They definitely stop over the w/e's and most evenings: suggests humans busily making others' lives a little worse each day?

Their site and AUP (!)/TOS (!) suggests that they're a really reasonable and responsible (not to say responsive) company. Ha!

And just saw a Twitter feed where a rep of theirs appeared all sympathetic and said to forward to their 'Abuse Department'

New low :-(

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Hmmm ... softlayer,com hosting (mentioned earlier above) - https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6022803755z675f6f7f0149e72fb6e07ccf7f700a84z -

used by flipmailer.com in some pseudo "social networking" spam malarky. Social? I'm barely civil, where did they get my detail? When I go to SenderScore.org (need an account - free - to get full detail) I see softlayer is only the tip of the iceberg, the flipmailer junk is going through at least 296 servers in many different networks in some sort of concerted way (despite softlayer hosting the designated MX servers - 10 of them - in DNS records). Maybe the same or similar in the NameCheap case which is the subject of the discussion. We know about snow-shoeing but that is ridiculous! I fear the myrmidons of spamdom may have hit upon a new and infinitely vile "paradigm" for the distribution of their feculence.

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&nbsp &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp As far as I know, this is the first notable technological advance in spam dissemination in a very long time!

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[at]msealey 95% of my daily spam, which is beyond ridiculous, is from namecheaphosting.com (reseller of Enom).

All of their unsubscribe links go to tbcremoves.link which is a frameset for creditauthpagev3.info which is registered by, you guessed it, enom, inc.

I've used enom's abuse form multiple times with no reply, reported every piece of spam through SpamCop for weeks, and even called Enom. I got a very sympathetic lady on the phone who just "couldn't believe" this was happening and how bad she felt for me. I'm pretty sure she was having a laugh with me, but she told me she had heard that there were many problems with the enom abuse form so instead I should write a specific email address. I did and of course no reply.

I can't imagine how many lost hours of productivity these mothersuckers are causing our society, it has to be in the thousands every week of the year.

I would like to join you in reporting to the BBB and the D/As and anyone else you are reporting to aside from SpamCop.
I appreciate any information and hopefully we can all work together to bring these guys down a few pegs.

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Most of my spam is hosted by namecheaphosting.com. Spamcop reports for abuse go to abuse[at]namecheaphosting.com whereas WHOIS states they should go to abuse[at]enom.com. Anyway to have Spamcop report to abuse[at]enom.com instead of/or in addition to abuse[at]namecheaphosting.com?

Namecheap has done nothing to my complaints...

Also, how does one complain to District Attorneys or the Attorney General?

Thanks

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Anyway to have Spamcop report to abuse[at]enom.com instead of/or in addition to abuse[at]namecheaphosting.com?

&nbsp &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp No guarantee but chances are better if you would post this to the SpamCop Reporting Help → Routing / Report Address Issues Forum.

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Also, how does one complain to District Attorneys or the Attorney General?

&nbsp &nbsp&nbsp&nbsp&nbsp That would depend on the District Attorney/ Attorney General. For some ideas, you could peruse the results at URL http://www.goodsearch.com/search-web?utf8=✓&keywords=%2B(complain+OR+complaint)+%2B("attorney+general"+OR+"district+attorney"). For the US Attorney General, you could check the Department of Justice web site. However, my guess is that unless someone has lost a lot of money or a state or federal agency has been victimized, District Attorneys and Attorneys General are unlikely to do much with your complaint.

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Most of my spam is hosted by namecheaphosting.com. Spamcop reports for abuse go to abuse[at]namecheaphosting.com whereas WHOIS states they should go to abuse[at]enom.com. Anyway to have Spamcop report to abuse[at]enom.com instead of/or in addition to abuse[at]namecheaphosting.com?

Namecheap has done nothing to my complaints...

Also, how does one complain to District Attorneys or the Attorney General?

Thanks

Namecheap does nothing. I have filed lots of reports, and they just ignore them. I was their customer, and also contacted them via Facebook and Twitter. They just stopped responding to me.

I took the consequence and moved my domain registrations away from them.

I just reported another spamvertised link pointing to namecheaphosting, and now Spamcop says reporting to namecheap/enom is disabled.

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I've googled a bit, and I found this very interesting analysis: http://tacit.livejournal.com/608386.html

Basically, Namecheap runs an URL-forwarding service which is pretty much exclusively used by spammers and which allows them to claim that the domain isn't hosted by them.

And they also don't act on reports if the spam email didn't com from their space (which in spam is the norm.)

The bottom line: They are a spam sewer.

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Thanks JoeF ... it would be hard indeed to disagree with your assessment. What can be done to bring them to account, I ask myself - unfortunately without any ready reply.

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Well Farelf, I'm glad you are not talking to yourself.

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I became deluge with ENOM / NameCheap spam beginning on Jun 2016 and I get from 2-4 spam emails from one or the other each day since then and continuing up through today.    Unfortunately, my spam filter catches only about 5% from each registrar.   

Here is the way my history transitioned.   The initial roll out with me as a target started June 2016 and with all of the spam coming from ENOM registered domains.   I kept sending abuse@enom.com daily reports all went ignored.   No response whatsoever.    So I wrote to the BBB and reported them as being a spam haven partner and after about a week, to my surprise ENOM responded back through the BBB and with that stated they had killed all of the domains I had reported as well as sent me a list of the twelve or so they had deleted.   Still this meant little, since the spammer relies on the domain to be productive primarily on the day the spam email is delivered.   Well further complaints to ENOM seemed to fall on deaf ears and the spammer moved to using the.co registrar while attempting to depend on the language barrier to stop reports to the .co organization of the bogus WhoIS contact data (I took care care of reporting to them  because I am bi-lingual).  

Now today the only process that seems to work against ENOM/ NameCheap spam partnership  is to report to the registar's regulating authority the bogus name, address and phone for the domains that are being logged into WhoIS.   This still takes up to a week to process, so the spammer and their ENOM / NameCheap spam partner still is virtually unaffected.

Today the spammers have shifted back to NameCHeap almost exclusively and the spammer seems to no longer care that invalid whois data reports are being submitted to ICANN and the Columbian .co authority, since the evil deed they are doing is completed long before any authority can get to the queue to take down the domain.

NameCheap differs primarily from ENOM in that while ENOM pretends to "take spam seriously" they will do nothing regarding your reports for several days, assuming they do anything at all, and then they make a whoopla about taking action long after it is too late to stop the payload of "first responders" to the spam emails.   NameCheap differs in that their abuse@namecheap will blatantly tell you they don't get involved in customer's spamming activity and suggest you take it up with some legal authority, saying their hands are tied.

Speaking of legal authority, does anyone know of any lawyer that would take on a class action lawsuit and file it against NameCheap and ENOM?    It seems that the loss of more money than their $10 - $40 daily spammer windfall may be the only language that these two can understand.

ed with ENOM / NameCheap spam beginning on Jun 2016 and I get from 2-4 spam emails from one or the other each day since then and continuing up through today.    Unfortunately, my spam filter catches only about 5% from each registrar.   

Here is the way my history transitioned.   The initial roll out with me as a target started June 2016 and with all of the spam coming from ENOM registered domains.   I kept sending abuse@enom daily reports all went ignored.   No response whatsoever.    So I wrote to the BBB and reported them as being a spam haven partner and after about a week, to my surprise ENOM responded back through the BBB and with that stated they had killed all of the domains I had reported as well as sent me a list of the twelve or so they had deleted.   Still this meant little, since the spammer relies on the domain to be productive primarily on the day the spam email is delivered.   Well further complaints to ENOM seemed to fall on deaf ears and the spammer moved to using the.co registrar while attempting to depend on the language barrier to stop reports to the .co organization of the bogus WhoIS contact data (I took care care of reporting to them  because I am bi-lingual).  

Now today the only process that seems to work against ENOM/ NameCheap spam partnership  is to report to the registar's regulating authority the bogus name, address and phone for the domains that are being logged into WhoIS.   This still takes up to a week to process, so the spammer and their ENOM / NameCheap spam partner still is virtually unaffected.

Today the spammers have shifted back to NameCHeap almost exclusively and the spammer seems to no longer care that invalid whois data reports are being submitted to ICANN and the Colombian .co authority, since the evil deed they are doing is completed long before any authority can get to the queue to take down the domain.

NameCheap differs primarily from ENOM in that while ENOM pretends to "take spam seriously" they will do nothing regarding your reports for several days, assuming they do anything at all, and then they make a whoopla about taking action long after it is too late to stop the payload of "first responders" to the spam emails.   NameCheap differs in that their abuse@namecheap.com will blatantly tell you they don't get involved in customer's spamming activity and suggest you take it up with some legal authority, saying their hands are tied.

Speaking of legal authority, does anyone know of any lawyer that would take on a class action lawsuit and file it against NameCheap and ENOM?    It seems that the loss of more money than their $10 - $40 daily spammer windfall may be the only language that these two can understand.

 

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