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Reporting Alpnames Limited of involving in spamming

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I newly registered to SpamCop less than 24 hrs ago. I hope I am posting to the right section.

2 Directors of a client has been aggressively spammed with emails addresses with domains like: mgmcaorti.top, mhmcaorti.top, disquite.science etc and so on.

I have already submitted some of the spam complains to SpamCop using the report section.

However, out of curiousity I did a checking on this spammer's domains using domain IP checker (mgmcaorti.top, mhmcaorti.top, disquite.science) and found the spammer details like shown below.

Meaning despite of the different in email address and domain names, the domain IP checker shows the result of the same registrant details show below.

I would like to know with such info, can Alpnames Limited be stopped or actions can be taken to stop the spamming?

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Domain Name: mfmcaorti.top
Domain ID: 20150923g10001g-44499724
WHOIS Server: whois.alpnames.com
Referral URL: http://www.alpnames.com
Updated Date: 2015-09-22T19:54:05Z
Creation Date: 2015-09-22T19:54:04Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-09-22T19:54:04Z
Sponsoring Registrar: Alpnames Limited
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1857
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
(http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited)
Registrant ID: alp_46739954
Registrant Name: Artrew
Registrant Organization: N/A
Registrant Street: PO Box 5031
Registrant City: Evanston
Registrant State/Province: Illinois
Registrant Postal Code: 60204-5031
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.7863756582
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: artrewdomain[at]gmail.com
Admin ID: alp_46739954
Admin Name: Artrew
Admin Organization: N/A
Admin Street: PO Box 5031
Admin City: Evanston
Admin State/Province: Illinois
Admin Postal Code: 60204-5031
Admin Country: US
Admin Phone: +1.7863756582
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: artrewdomain[at]gmail.com
Tech ID: alp_46739954
Tech Name: Artrew
Tech Organization: N/A
Tech Street: PO Box 5031
Tech City: Evanston
Tech State/Province: Illinois
Tech Postal Code: 60204-5031
Tech Country: US
Tech Phone: +1.7863756582
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email: artrewdomain[at]gmail.com
Name Server: ns4.alpnames.com
Name Server: ns3.alpnames.com
Name Server: ns2.alpnames.com
Name Server: ns1.alpnames.com
DNSSEC: unsigned

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The short answer is "NO" 'Alpnames Limited (can't) be stopped or actions can be taken to stop the spamming.'

The longer answer is also no. By design the internet is open to all to present their content to the world. That includes email.

On the other hand, by reporting the spam email their IP address(es) may be added to the SpamCop blocklist so that those that use the blocklist can filter email they receive from that same IP address.

There is also a chance that Alpnames' ISP will take action to stop the offender, to protect their own reputation and the quality of service they provide to other clients.

A more direct solution is for you to implement a black list on your server filtering out unwanted email from spamming domains or IP addresses.

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Note that in the whois records in your example, Alpnames are not the registrant (owner) of the domain name, they are the registrar, i.e. the ISP that the spammer has used to buy the domain registration.

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There is also a chance that Alpnames' ISP will take action to stop the offender, to protect their own reputation and the quality of service they provide to other clients.

Update: I started receiving spam from domains using Alpnames as their registrar on 12/29/2015. Since then they have suspended 7 out of the last 23 domains I've reported.

Many registrars have been very cooperative with me, but, they can't always investigate unless they find the domain to be blacklisted. Sometimes though, all they can do is

inform the domain that there has been a complaint, and issue a warning. That's because the registrar doesn't always have access to the logs that the host would have.

But report to them anyway (whether they like it or not), they are the ones with the power to take the domain name away. (I have found Web.com to be the least cooperative.)

Man, I still can't get the hang of this quote thing:)

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Thanks for the update. Your quoting approach works too.

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Over the last three days I have had over 50 spam emails where the registrar is Alpnames. I have reported them all to abuse[at]alpnames.com and they tell me the domains are suspended. In the case of most you who.is does not show the email contacts for the person registering, but on registry.pro it does:

Registrant ID: ALP_50521373
Registrant Name: Kelly Anne Santos
Registrant Organization: N/A
Registrant Street: 340 S LEMON AVE #5363
Registrant City: WALNUT
Registrant State/Province: California
Registrant Postal Code: 91789
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.20339757
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: trapezoidnow[at]mail.com
I have asked the COO of Alpnames to stop accepting registrations from this person. In my view it is their corporate social responsibility to not contribute to the creation of a nuisance - and 50 spam emails from one person in three days is a nuisance and a waste of time.
In UK public nuisance is a criminal offence and unless Alpnames starts behaving more responsibility I will start criminal proceedings against them.

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Tony-P, on 10 Feb 2016 - 05:29 AM, said:

Over the last three days I have had over 50 spam emails where the registrar is Alpnames. I have reported them all to abuse[at]alpnames.com and they tell me the domains are suspended.

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I have been getting the same emails, but from different registrants. Get the list of suspensions as well (see topic - [dot]date Domains Suspended). You can never be 100% sure

that the domains have been suspended, or that it will lead to termination. But, the emails from those domains have stopped. Of course, they could have just washed the address

from their list. At this time I do err on the side of Alpnames having actually having suspended those domains.

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Tony-P, on 10 Feb 2016 - 05:29 AM, said:
I have asked the COO of Alpnames to stop accepting registrations from this person. In my view it is their corporate social responsibility to not contribute to the creation of a nuisance - and 50 spam emails from one person in three days is a nuisance and a waste of time.
In UK public nuisance is a criminal offence and unless Alpnames starts behaving more responsibility I will start criminal proceedings against them.

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At this time there doesn't appear to be any limit on how many domain names can be registered at any one time. Many responsible corporations apply for multiple names at once. Sometimes just

to keep someone else from using that name. I agree that there should be some limitations on that policy. Though, I'm sure the spammers would find a way around that also.

At least you are getting a positive response from Alpnames. Many other registrars turn their backs on what their registrants are doing. From them, if you get any response at all,

it's just an automated message. Usually basically saying it's not their problem. I've even had some (and other organizations, even some CERT abuse addresses) start filtering

my address, so that after a few reports, they start bouncing back MY reports as spam!

Not quite sure how to go about it, would take a little research, but you could try to make that suggestion to ICANN. I believe you would go thru At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC),

which is ICANN's voice for individual computer users. They are split up into five regions, your region (UK) would be EURALO. Though to actually join that you would need to be a member

of something like an advocacy group. However, they may be able to help you find the appropriate way to make policy suggestions. I would probably start by making an inquiry using this

email address - staff [at] atlarge [dot] icann [dot] org. If you are successful, you could post what you find out here, as others may like to follow suit in their own regions as well. I know I would.

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Edited by lpsears63

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Thanks very much for the suggestion. I will give it a whirl.

The problem is getting worse. I received 18 spam emails from Alpnames registrants on 11 February, 25 on 10 Feb, 25 on 9 Feb, and 1 on 8 Feb and 26 over the weekend of 6/7 Feb.

I am also reporting Alpnames for public nuisance to the Gibraltar Police.

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When I forward spam emails to Alpnames (abuse[at]alpnames.com) I used to get a response saying that they had suspended the following domains.

I am now getting a different response:

Dear Anthony,

We wish to inform you that we have received your message and that a ticket has been sent to AlpNames' Abuse Mitigation team.
An AlpNames representative will be reviewing your request and will respond to you in due course (usually within 24 hours).

Should you wish to provide us with any additional information, please reply to this email.

We thank you for your patience.
Kind regards,
Abuse Mitigation

Since I sign myself Tony it is interesting that the automated reply is to "Anthony". It means that my emails are being handled differently - and "parked"?

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I have checked back at the domain names that I have reported to Alpnames and they have not been suspended according to who.is and registry.pro.

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Tony-P, on 12 Feb 2016 - 12:22 AM, said:

When I forward spam emails to Alpnames (abuse[at]alpnames.com) I used to get a response saying that they had suspended the following domains.

I am now getting a different response:

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Apparently the abuse team at Alpnames has a new notification system in place now. You should also get a second response that say's that your issue has been

resolved, but then doesn't tell you what that resolution was. There should be though, a place at the bottom of the response to rate the new system. Make sure you

rate either just ok, or not at all. That will open a new page where you can tell them what you think.

I didn't give the new system a good rating at all. But, I have gotten good support from the abuse team, so I did rate them much better.

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Edited by lpsears63

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Tony-P, on 12 Feb 2016 - 12:39 AM, said:

I have checked back at the domain names that I have reported to Alpnames and they have not been suspended according to who.is and registry.pro.

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I just double checked some of the domains from my most recent list, after reading your post. I use mostly Whois powered by Name [dot] com and Myip [dot] ms. At Whois right below the registrars name

it says clientDeleteProhibited client hold and clientHold, clientUpdateProhibited. And on Myip no information at all shows up, when there was info before. Client Hold means

suspension. Remember though that suspension is not termination. It does, however, keep the domain inactive so that it can be investigated. It also may take a day or to for the

update to be seen, depending on what lookup tools you use. One reason I use Myip is that it is updated something like every 5 minutes. Downside is if you look at about 10 pages

or lookup an IPv6 address you need to register. And for that they only take bitcoin (I had real trouble trying to use that). But, they do give you a ton of information.

Anyway, I don't know how long after you received the notice, that you checked on the domain status. You might try again, maybe even try a different tool.

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Edited by lpsears63

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