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To anyone who can help:

I subscribe to an ISP called totalnet, a subsidiary of inter.net canada in Montreal, Canada. My company started using Spamcop in Dec 2003 to block spams. I belong to an e-mail list whose address is dyspraxia[at]yahoogroups.com. On a number of occasions Spamcop mistook this as spam, causing the messages to bounce back to the list's server. The server is set to throw people whose posts bounce off the list. Because of this problem, I am denied membership to the list, which is a support group I joined because of a neurological disability.

Is there any way to get Spamcop to make sure dyspraxia[at]yahoogroups.com is never blacklisted?

I tried contacting the tech support people at my ISP, but get nowhere with them. They aren't too good about helping clients out.

Thanks

Marla

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Sorry, but the SpamCopDNSbl is very dynamic ... and Yahoo / Yahoo Group administrators don't do well at managing the spew coming from their servers. The specific problem with your request / complaint / query is that it's not the "group" that's at issue, it's the IP address of the Yahoo server involved in sending out your favorite group stuff ... the problem is that the same server gets involved in sending out stuff that causes others to complain about the unwanted spew.

For some previous "conversations" about the YahooGroup issue, please see the following Topics ... not that you'll be much happier, but you may have enough data to then talk to your ISP about a possible whitelisting (though that sounds doubtful also)

http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1558

http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=1639

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It is not blocked by email address and it might not be your yahoo group. It is the server for yahoo groups that has made its way into the blocklist. There are many incompetent Yahoo Group administrators that allow spammers to join their groups and spoil it for everyone else.

I think you would agree with me that everyone is tired of receiving mortgage quotes, penis enlargement, breast enhancement, weight loss, nude 40 year old teenage sluts, Viagra, vacation, lottery, prescription drug, business opportunities, genealogical, university degrees, gambling, get rich quick, MLM, pyramid schemes, Web Cams, Russian brides, work from home, stock scams, pirated software and everything else that is force fed into our inboxes.

Until Yahoo Groups train their administrators or create a better system they will be blocked from time to time.

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I thought that it was against the Spamcop rules to report spam received from mailing lists, or are Yahoo groups not considered mailing lists? So, only the group (mailing list) owner should be able to report these spams and should this not result in the originating systems, not the Yahoo group servers, being listed?

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Since neither your ISP nor Yahoo is very responsive to the problems of their customers, perhaps what you should do is is set up a yahoo email account to join the support group. It is a little bit of a nuisance having to log in and wait until they post all their ads, but I know quite a few people who use yahoo as their primary email. You can also access your email if you are away from your home computer.

Another advantage is that all your support group emails will be in one place and not interspersed in your regular email.

Miss Betsy

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To anyone who can help:

I subscribe to an ISP called totalnet, a subsidiary of inter.net canada in Montreal, Canada. My company started using Spamcop in Dec 2003 to block spams. I belong to an e-mail list whose address is dyspraxia[at]yahoogroups.com. On a number of occasions Spamcop mistook this as spam, causing the messages to bounce back to the list's server. The server is set to throw people whose posts bounce off the list. Because of this problem, I am denied membership to the list, which is a support group I joined because of a neurological disability.

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...To what e-mail address does "your company" bounce messages that come from yahoogroups.com? If it is using an inappropriate (as defined by Yahoo) address, that might be the problem. It should use the registered abuse address for whatever Yahoo IP address that is the source of the incoming e-mail.

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You should ask your ISP to whitelist the Yahoo list for you. I use Spamcop's filtered email (and of course use Spamcop's block list among others), and I also subscribe to a couple of Yahoo groups. I have my groups whitelisted, and there is no problem. If your ISP can't whitelist those email addresses, perhaps you should either look for a new ISP, or sign up for a free email account (maybe on Yahoo itself!)

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