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Does spammer's ISP take spamcop seriously ?

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I can't help wondering.

Do these ISP really take care of spam reports ? I'm under the impression that they don't give a damn anymore, probably because they receive hundred of thousand of complaints and can't or won't treat them.

Last week, I came back from a 14 days trip, got no less than 208 "enlarge penis" spam from chinanet. The worst part was that they found my private isp e-mail address which has never been published on the net. ( I never used it on forums nor remove list ).

Can I obligate my provider to take responsability on this matter. I am convinced that their mail server is not secure.

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I can't help wondering.

Do these ISP really take care of spam reports ? I'm under the impression that they don't give a damn anymore, probably because they receive hundred of thousand of complaints and can't or won't treat them.

Last week, I came back from a 14 days trip, got no less than 208 "enlarge penis" spam from chinanet. The worst part was that they found my private isp e-mail address which has never been published on the net. ( I never used it on forums nor remove list ).

Can I obligate my provider to take responsability on this matter. I am convinced that their mail server is not secure.

It depends on the ISP. Unfortnately since ChinaNet is not in the US there is not a lot that people in the US can do other than ask their ISP's to filter their mail.

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Personally, I would be quite happy if my ISPs would ban all eMails coming from, or with links to, chinanet (or Russian sites or Czechoslovakian sites) without me ever seeing them! :D

It would cut out about 90% of my spam!

(Any chance of this being an opt-in feature if the mail service provider admins are reading this?)

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Personally, I would be quite happy if my ISPs would ban all eMails coming from, or with links to, chinanet (or Russian sites or Czechoslovakian sites) without me ever seeing them!

If you use a spamcop mail account to filter your mail, you an choose the following countries to ignore.

South Korea

China

Nigeria

Argentina

Brazil

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I can't help wondering.

Do these ISP really take care of spam reports ? I'm under the impression that they don't give a damn anymore, probably because they receive hundred of thousand of complaints and can't or won't treat them.

Last week, I came back from a 14 days trip, got no less than 208 "enlarge penis" spam from chinanet. The worst part was that they found my private isp e-mail address which has never been published on the net. ( I never used it on forums nor remove list ).

Can I obligate my provider to take responsability on this matter. I am convinced that their mail server is not secure.

Some ISPs deal with spam reports, some don't. It's been that way for a long time. Chinanet is a hopeless cause and is widely blocked by email admins who don't have customers that need to send/receive email from China.

If your username is truly unique your ISP may have a security problem, however if it is a username that someone else has used somewhere else the spammers my have discovered it by using usernames from that domain to attempt delivery to valid addresses at your ISP. When the mail server didn't refuse the email with a 'no such address' response the spammer knew he'd found a valid address.

Think about a spammer taking his AOL, Hotmail, or Yahoo address list and trying all of those username combinations [at]your.domain, chances are that spammy just hammered your mail server with boatloads of usernames and kept track of the addresses that the server didn't reject.

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I would be quite happy if my ISPs would ban all eMails coming from, or with links to, chinanet (or Russian sites or Czechoslovakian sites) without me ever seeing them!  :D

It would cut out about 90% of my spam!

I agree. If the US Government would address these international communist and quasi-communist nations and not pass dumb laws punishing a few domestic spammers, indeed a majority of this garbage would cease. Our kids wouldn't be exposed to pornography, our e-economy would be more effective, our ISPs wouldn't have to purchase additional diskdrive memory, etc.

The financial cost from these international spammers I'm sure is at least in the $100's of millions to OUR economy. These countries with $1 per day labor then build all the computer equipment which us dumb Americans buy. It's a crappy farce.

And our government is in on it!!!! The North America Free Trade garbage and opening up trade to China makes a few Americans tremendously wealthy but makes millions of Americans poorer due to job transfers to overseas and all of our dollars paying for overseas computer technology. We are being crapped on by our own blood-sucking politicians.

In addition to the financial cost, what about the moral cost? We have millions of our young children being exposed to p*nis and b00b enlargement ads, erect*on ads, teenage cheerleader sl*ts video ads, and explicit pornography pictures sent directly to our kid's email in-boxes.

I smell a rat, many rats, many fat rats in Washington DC. How much more of this garbage do we have to put up with before the appropriate people, companies, and countries are punished?

Edited by amaul

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Also, can we go on the offensive :ph34r: , not only jailing and driving into bankruptcy G.W.Bush and other neo-cons who sacrifice our national security, soverniety and economy so that a few elitists could become billionaires?

Can we blast CHINANET into oblivion? Can the CIA send them a virus that not only melts thier computers, but uses RISK chip technology to emmulate a bomb and blow up their buildings along with the Larry Flint worshipping spammers? Blow them to pieces! :o Kidding on this last part, I think.

I'm sure there could be someway to make the foreign spammers pay for at least 0.00000001 % of the damage they caused to America. Jerks! :angry:

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I'm surprised it isn't a campaign issue.

1. Real terrorists could communicate quite freely in code by disguising their messages as penis enlargement ads and sending them to 100,000 people instead of just the intended recipient.

2. The Chinese government has prevented their dissidents from communicating with foreigners by permitting so many spammers far more effectively than they could have by restricting internet access directly. If your only choice of an ISP is Chinanet.net, your emails will be blacklisted by most foriegn ISP's.

3. Narcotics are flowing into this country from foreign countries to people who don't even have prescriptions. They can easily be sold on the street at a large profit. Not only is the DEA apparently doing nothing to stop it, the activity is being advertised by American profiteers who are probably not paying taxes on the money (so effectively laundered in other countries that ISP's can't trace the spam to the spammers by a money trail).

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...Moderators, if you agree with me that this post is going OT, could you please move it (or at least, all the political stuff) to the Lounge?

...Thanks!

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Sorry, ChinaNet-bashing (and bashing the US Government for not bashing China about this) is on-topic for this Topic. :)

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Hi, Jeff,

Sorry, ChinaNet-bashing (and bashing the US Government for not bashing China about this) is on-topic for this Topic.  :)

...Yes, I quite agree, but I do not believe that the following statement are:

I agree. If the US Government would address these international communist and quasi-communist nations <snip>

<snip>These countries with $1 per day labor<snip>

And our government is in on it!!!! The North America Free Trade garbage and opening up trade to China makes a few Americans tremendously wealthy but makes millions of Americans poorer due to job transfers to overseas and all of our dollars paying for overseas computer technology. We are being crapped on by our own blood-sucking politicians.

I smell a rat, many rats, many fat rats in Washington DC. <snip>/CODE]
[CODE]Also, can we go on the offensive  , not only jailing and driving into bankruptcy G.W.Bush and other neo-cons who sacrifice our national security, soverniety and economy so that a few elitists could become billionaires?

I'm surprised it isn't a campaign issue

...BTW, why wouldn't the BB "QUOTE" work in my reply? I had to change all the "QUOTE"s to "CODE"s, except for the first one (which didn't work, either, until I changed the others)! :huh:

Edited by turetzsr

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