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14 hours ago, petzl said:

I always forward my Amazon spam to abuse [AT] amazon [DOT] com
 

I used to send to:

abuse@amazonaws.com,

ec2-abuse@amazon.com,

ipmanagement@amazon.com,

abuse@amazon.com

 

I have found that all except “ipmanagement” are now not sent in SpamCop. That’s ok if the ipmanagement one can work. I cannot say it reduced my spam in any way, but complaining directly to the “businesses”  might be working. I think, somehow, most of my spam is from an affiliate marketeer. One that follows many very bad practices in email marketing and is also terrible at managing opt outs.

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5 hours ago, Hanco said:

I have found that all except “ipmanagement” are now not sent in SpamCop.

I just forward to "abuse [AT] amazon [DOT] com" "stop-spoofing [AT] amazon [DOT] com"
From my Gmail account directly

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8 hours ago, Hanco said:

I have found that all except “ipmanagement” are now not sent in SpamCop. That’s ok if the ipmanagement one can work.

So, would it be worth us having someone point all the Amazon to ipmanagement or could it be possible that that group might not be in charge of all of their IPs?

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On 2/11/2020 at 4:38 PM, gnarlymarley said:

So, would it be worth us having someone point all the Amazon to ipmanagement or could it be possible that that group might not be in charge of all of their IPs?

Dunno.

One thing I did find today, and it seems to list a lot of what I have seen in terms of spam email topics:

https://www.maxbounty.com/campaigns.cfm?offer_id=14005&mbs=Mailer&mba=Click Link&mbo=Medicare Guide - CPL (US)&mbc=14005&mbx1=&mbx2=
 

Thinking of contacting those folks and asking to be added to do not mail list... not sure yet 🤔 

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Well, now this is new.  I just got a bounce from amazon.  Hard to tell if gmail rejected my report to amazon or if amazon did.

 

Final-Recipient: rfc822; ec2-abuse@amazon.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Message rejected.  See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for more information.
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 15:23:11 -0800 (PST)

 

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6 minutes ago, gnarlymarley said:

Well, now this is new.  I just got a bounce from amazon.  Hard to tell if gmail rejected my report to amazon or if amazon did.

 


Final-Recipient: rfc822; ec2-abuse@amazon.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; Message rejected.  See https://support.google.com/mail/answer/69585 for more information.
Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 15:23:11 -0800 (PST)

 

I occasionally get similar bounces.  Gmail occasionally flags the account as being a spammer, even though we are actually trying to send spam complaints.  I was told it was because I had too many addresses in the Cc section of the email.  Gmail even starting bouncing the complaints sent to abuse@namecheapm phishing-report@us-cert. gov and even spam@uce.gov because I was filing so many complaints a day.

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9 minutes ago, goodnerd said:

I occasionally get similar bounces.  Gmail occasionally flags the account as being a spammer, even though we are actually trying to send spam complaints.  I was told it was because I had too many addresses in the Cc section of the email.

Yep, it did come from google.  I guess having one recipient is too much for them.  I submitted it to amazon using a different account and it went through.  Funny how the original email is not blocked, but attempts to report it are.

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1 minute ago, gnarlymarley said:

Yep, it did come from google.  I guess having one recipient is too much for them.  I submitted it to amazon using a different account and it went through.  Funny how the original email is not blocked, but attempts to report it are.

Because the spam affiliate scam artist is income maybe. And AWS does like to get its income (funds its effort to dominate the online retail space?)

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My spammer switched target sites again today. Cannot use the same domain/site in California (Google) for too many spams or it risks blacklist status and gets shut down. So it’s back to .RU or other Eastern Europe for a bit I guess.

Today’s fun fascinating final target spamvertized sites are 

rewardyoursurvey.com (I doubt the reward is enough for my time)

Any of you guys been seeing this in the hops from spam link to target site?

http://masscancel.site/r.php

or

mayattented.live site?

both hosted by DigitalOcean and both were created by the spam guy via Namecheap, before being used on the same day for the emails he sends.

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19 minutes ago, Hanco said:

My spammer switched target sites again today.

Mine has switched to using a new shortener of http ://owl.li/**********.

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Funny because all mine were either bit.ly or googleuser links (either way, it’s all about more redirects to hide behind)

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I use those sites that scan the url for the redirects and see where they end up (if I have the time)

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Well, I hope my spamming jerk of a friend is ok and did not get Coronavirus.... but today was pleasantly uninterrupted!

Yesterday I had a mail from them and for the first time in a LONG time it did not show SPF fail in the headers. In fact it reportedly associated itself with a well respected marketing outfit called ActiveCampaign.

Why do I rate AC so highly? Well they do at very least have an actually comprehensive guide on their long established site about how not to be classed as a spammer. All of which, I think I can truthfully say, my spammer friend(s) flaunt ignorance of!

https://www.activecampaign.com/legal/anti-spam-policy

Of course this may have been their last ditch attempt to list wash and maybe “Jason at ActiveCampaign d o t c o.m” was happy to give them my info to take me off their list. Who knows eh? At least it might be done with.

So what now? One day of nil spam does not maketh tranquility... it could be Coronavirus or something less scary. They may be back tomorrow. If they are, I’ll do everything I can to make their marketing ineffective and and as fruitless as can be. Alternatively, if that is my lot, I’ll dance a jig, pour something cool and clear to drink, and store the folder of junk they’ve sent me away until they mess up and restart.

Fingers and toes crossed. Good luck all you spam warriors!

Edited by Hanco

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