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Many times when reported a spam is rejected by the reason of  "ISP has indicated spam will cease... "
Because it continues  receiving spam from IPS where have indicated as "will cease".
Will Spamcop change this action?? no sense if still receiving  spam.
 

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A Tracking URL would help.  It has been quite a while sense I have seen this.  As I remember if spam continue to come from a given IP, after the ISP has been given an opportunity to correct the problem, SpamCop will again accept spam and add the IP to the SCBL.

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7 hours ago, Ricardo_63 said:

Many times when reported a spam is rejected by the reason of  "ISP has indicated spam will cease... "
Because it continues  receiving spam from IPS where have indicated as "will cease".
Will Spamcop change this action?? no sense if still receiving  spam.
 

Reports will start going back to the administrator after some time if it keeps happening from that specific IP.  I think the delay is either six or four hours.  Like Lking had mentioned, it is something that was put into place to allow the administrators time to hunt down and correct the problem so they are not continuously spending time on new reports.  Now if it is something glaringly still a problem, the deputies can reset that variable so that the report can go through again, but they will want to see the tracking URL.  From what I have seen in the past, most administrators are able to get it all fixed within about a half hour, if not an hour.

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14 hours ago, Ricardo_63 said:

Many times when reported a spam is rejected by the reason of  "ISP has indicated spam will cease... "
Because it continues  receiving spam from IPS where have indicated as "will cease".
Will Spamcop change this action?? no sense if still receiving  spam.
 

Anyone can disable SpamCop Block List including spammers by simply going there! Once done SpamCop will not report and give the "ISP has indicated spam will cease" message you then have to report from the email source where it arrived.

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Hi and many thanks to everyone..

At first I’m totally agree with Petzl based on the following point;

Clearly it seems this situation happens to many users, and it seems administrator action by report backs isn’t enough, moreover when “Anyone can disable SpamCop Block List including spammers” it seems a weak follow up and control from SPAMCOP.

By the other way, if my understanding is correct there are 2 way for sending spam;

1. From users could have a Trojan virus on their PC .

2. From ISP servers where could be hacked (by using robot to scan ports and call to software to start send spam mail by using similar as TELNET or others.

So regardless to user PC 6 or 8 hour is enough time to stop, but when is regardless to server issue it mean irresponsibility and should be ZERO tolerance.

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On ‎10‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 12:25 AM, petzl said:

Anyone can disable SpamCop Block List including spammers by simply going there! Once done SpamCop will not report and give the "ISP has indicated spam will cease" message you then have to report from the email source where it arrived.

Thanks, absolutely agree with your answer

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54 minutes ago, Ricardo_63 said:

... if my understanding is correct there are 2 way for sending spam;

1. From users could have a Trojan virus on their PC .

2. From ISP servers where could be hacked (by using robot to scan ports and call to software to start send spam mail by using similar as TELNET or others.

So regardless to user PC 6 or 8 hour is enough time to stop, but when is regardless to server issue it mean irresponsibility and should be ZERO tolerance.

there are unfortunately more ways for spammers to send their junk:

they can find an open proxy, that is a server who allows sending through it (on port 25) and you can find plenty of those on the web (unfortunately)

another way is to spoof IP addresses, usually addresses that are not in use or still in transfer. I have been receiving my fair share of spam from IP blocks which are not in use and therefore a bounty for spammers as there is no abuse address for those IP blocks

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2 hours ago, RobiBue said:

there are unfortunately more ways for spammers to send their junk:

they can find an open proxy, that is a server who allows sending through it (on port 25) and you can find plenty of those on the web (unfortunately)

another way is to spoof IP addresses, usually addresses that are not in use or still in transfer. I have been receiving my fair share of spam from IP blocks which are not in use and therefore a bounty for spammers as there is no abuse address for those IP blocks

Absolutely agree, there where a lot of way and almost in advantage of spammers, therefore should be more stricter on "cease" rules and policies.

Without be more stronger and more condescending spammer will always be step forward.

 

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If Spamcop is and owes to:

spam complaints a day and is supported by hundreds of thousands of users, a knowledgeable volunteer community, and a professional staff”

Why to be more condescending with ISP?? IT manager should be step forward monitoring system and not contributed to and for spam moreover when increase day by day.

 

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9 hours ago, Ricardo_63 said:

IT manager should be step forward monitoring system and not contributed to and for spam moreover when increase day by day.

It is a mater of money. Some IT managers may not get paid if the money, maybe extra money, if action is taken agents the spammers. For those that don't see the difference, the spammer's money is just as spendable as any other.

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12 hours ago, Lking said:

It is a mater of money. Some IT managers may not get paid if the money, maybe extra money, if action is taken agents the spammers. For those that don't see the difference, the spammer's money is just as spendable as any other.

Based on you  hypothesis about spam reason is clearly money and can concluded behind  system  structure is not regardless to a little corporate, without any respect and totally disloyal .
Therefore it can concluded component of spammers began from IT managers (how about ISP? no carry out any responsibilities??).
If spammer is based about money what is the relationship between normal services as hosting and others and spam extra money?
As could be vertical structure, IT manager is the smaller portion of the spam business money share, as it could continues to the top of structure how much is the rate share?
Why is not regulated?? who controls ?
Are you sure is spam about money?

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6 hours ago, Ricardo_63 said:

how much is the rate share?
Why is not regulated?? who controls ?
Are you sure is spam about money?

I have no idea how much of the profit goes where.  I would guess it depends on how much each person involved thinks their soul is worth.

It is supported to be. ICANN should be controlling issuing of domain names and agencies,.  But there is evidence that they are not actively taking aspects of their responsibilities seriously.

If not money, what?  Today's forum spam here included, male "enhancement" drugs, weight loss drugs, skin creams, muscle building diet pills, all for sale for money.  I did not read carefully but I did not see anything with any "socially redeeming value" or other objective supported by pictures of women in bikinis or bed.

JMHO

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72.44.71.104 seems CISCO have may have become blackhat reported, Or went to report 

https://mailsc.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6500234714z3c56d704933b4075259483201cb2196ez

Seems clients of CISCO maybe un-reportable?

http://www.multacom.com/network.html

Edited by petzl

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3 hours ago, petzl said:

72.44.71.104 seems CISCO have may have become blackhat reported, Or went to report 

https://mailsc.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6500234714z3c56d704933b4075259483201cb2196ez

Seems clients of CISCO maybe un-reportable?

http://www.multacom.com/network.html

Another one it means it is the child porn spammer doing this disabling reporting.

https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6500264865z31db4ee4073f38538532a4ceeafd0c84z

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