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I Keep getting this message, "SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email"

What am I doing wrong? Am I supposed to include some message in the email?

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Are you forwarding the spam as an attachment to your email?

What email application(s) are you using to submit spam to SpamCop?

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I am forwarding the spam message itself to submit.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx{AT}spam.spamcop.net.

I am using outlook through my site5 isp

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You need to forward the email as an attachment, and not as "inline" - the Spamcop parser needs access to the full text of the email to do its stuff.

 

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Thanks, working better now, but still getting rejections saying they cannot find the spam. I definitely sent the original emails as attachments. I got only 6 accepted out of 13 I sent this morning. I got 7 with the not able to find message.

 

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Thanks, working better now, but still getting rejections saying they cannot find the spam. I definitely sent the original emails as attachments. I got only 6 accepted out of 13 I sent this morning. I got 7 with the not able to find message.

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Can you provide a Tracking URL which can be found at the top of the submit screen:

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SpamCop v 5.0.0 © 2019 Cisco Systems, Inc. All rights reserved.
Here is your TRACKING URL - it may be saved for future reference:

https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6524876703z2732b30d6e1336c8440ad74516f793a0z

There are/have been issues using OUTLOOK.  Take a look at your sent email.  You should be able to look at the attached email and see if contains the complete header which should look something like the header in the spam linked to above.

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On 2/25/2019 at 4:45 AM, jimmywalter said:

Thanks, working better now, but still getting rejections saying they cannot find the spam. I definitely sent the original emails as attachments. I got only 6 accepted out of 13 I sent this morning. I got 7 with the not able to find message.

Outlook by defaut does not support forwarding as an attachment.  The "forward" button is misleading.  What I do to forward as an attachment is to create a new email that will be sent to spamcop, then drag the message I want to attach to the body of my new email.

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Hey jimmywalter,

May I ask, are you using Outlook application or Outlook via a web browser?

Are you able to post a SpamCop Report URL, it will start with https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id= , please?

Cheers!

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On 3/6/2019 at 7:58 PM, MIG said:

Are you able to post a SpamCop Report URL, it will start with https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id= , please?

MIG, To answer your question jimmywalter will not be able to post a tracking URL because I believe the error of "SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email" is in the response email that would normally contain the tracking URL.  When the forwarded message is not an attachment, instead of a tracking URL, SpamCop provides this error.

On 3/6/2019 at 7:58 PM, MIG said:

May I ask, are you using Outlook application or Outlook via a web browser?

jimmywalter, this might useful to know.  I use the Outlook application to create a new message and drag in the email to the forwarded message when I want to "forward as an attachment".    Doing a google search yields results such as save the email as a eml file and then attach that to a new message, so I am not sure it is possible with the web application.  There might be some key sequence such as something like ctrl+shif+F that might do a forward as an attachment that I am not aware of.

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Posted (edited)
On 3/27/2019 at 6:19 PM, gnarlymarley said:

Save the email as a eml file and then attach that to a new message, so I am not sure it is possible with the web application.

Hey GnarleyMarley, Jimmywalter & anyone working with Outlook web mail, 

It's not possible to: 

  • [Save email as .eml] or any other format.
  • When using Outlook web mail there's no [key sequences] to [forward an attachment].

Sucks I know, but, it is what it is.

Cheers

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On 3/29/2019 at 10:14 PM, MIG said:

Outlook web mail, 

It's not possible to: 

  • [Save email as .eml] or any other format.
  • When using Outlook web mail there's no [key sequences] to [forward an attachment].

MIG,

For the outlook office365 webapp, you are absolutely correct.  The hotmail version of the web app will let me view the source.  What sucks about the webapp, is that I can only get it to show me the headers.  Apparently what Jimmywalter  might need to do (and what I have been doing for a while) is access it over imap using both fetchmail and thunderbird.

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Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, gnarlymarley said:

"about the webapp, I can only get it to show me headers"

Hey gnarlymarley,

I'm talking about mail accessed via https://outlook.live.comin/on a web browser. What used to be called [Hotmail]. Accessing source data is completely "do-able", irrespective of whether the [new Outlook] {used to be called "Beta", but  now in production and called new Outlook (by MS)}, or the [classic Outlook] is used.

To reiterate, using https://outlook.live.com/ [new Outlook &/or classic Outlook] it's not possible to: 

  • [Save ANY email as .eml] or any other format.
  • There's no [key sequences] to [forward an attachment].

https://support.office.com/en-us/article/get-help-with-outlook-on-the-web-cf659288-35cc-4c6c-8c75-e8e4317fda11

When you say "about the webapp, I can only get it to show me headers", I don't understand. Can you provide more specific detail please, for example:

Step 1 - go to x

Step 2 - blah, blah, blah...

I'm happy to help if I you'd take the time to provide info/reply please?

Cheers!

Edited by MIG

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On 4/11/2019 at 11:42 PM, MIG said:

via https://outlook.live.comin/on a web browser. What used to be called [Hotmail].

I am unable to tell if jimmywalter is using office365 webmail or if using outlook.live.com.

 

On 4/11/2019 at 11:42 PM, MIG said:

When you say "about the webapp, I can only get it to show me headers", I don't understand.

  • I call it hotmail, but in outlook.live.com over by the sign out button is three dots that once clicked will have a "source message" link that has the full source.
  • In offfice 365 web outlook, there is only an options and properties tab that gives the headers.  The outlook application gives the same.

So if jimmywalter is using office365 webapp, there is no forward as attachment and no message source.  If jimmywalter is using outlook.live.com, there is no forward but is a message source that can allow the full headers and body to be copied/pasted into the spamcop webform.

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Hey GnarleyMarley,

I was referring to your comment: "about the webapp, I can only get it to show me headers"

What "webapp"?

Image 1 = Original OutLook (live/web mail) previously Hotmail.

[SCF][GM][Original OL mail-previously HM].jpg

Image 2 = Original OutLook (live/web mail) previously Hotmail, accessing "Source data".

[SCF][GM][Original OL mail-Source data].jpg

Image 3 = New OutLook (live/web mail) - previously BETA.

[SCF][GM][NEW OL mail-previously BETA].jpg

Image 4 = New OutLook (live/web mail) - accessing "Source data"

[SCF][GM][NEW OL mail- accessing Source data].jpg

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Off topic but "relevant" to Microsoft implementation of Outlook Live Beta, to access source data (in any mail) it's necessary to open the mail. 
It's this day & age of highly sensitive touch screen devices the possibility of inadvertently "selecting" a link in a spam/malware mail is significantly increased🤬.

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Cheers!

 

 

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On 4/15/2019 at 4:15 AM, MIG said:

I was referring to your comment: "about the webapp, I can only get it to show me headers"

What "webapp"?

jimmywalter,

See post from MIG above.

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