underestimated Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I am starting to get settled with what I need SC to help me with, but I guess I can't use Outlook Express to send email using my SC address? 12. Enter your normal "Outgoing mail (SMTP) server" and any necessary authorization parameters. SpamCop does not provide SMTP service to its Customers from their computers. Click the "Next" Button. From: Jeff G.'s Guide to accessing SpamCop email using OE and IMAP Can anyone help me here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazoo Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Strangely enough, "we" just had this conversation over in the E-Mail Forun at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2502 .. there is some confusion, but should also make for some interesting reading <g> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidT Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I am starting to get settled with what I need SC to help me with, but I guess I can't use Outlook Express to send email using my SC address? Sure you can...either create multiple identities or multiple email accounts in a single identity. Here's one (of many) links I found using Google that explains the concept: http://www.olympus.net/olympusnet/olympuso...leAccounts.html But I have a more radical idea....don't use Outlook Express at all! Are you aware that most of the people out there who are creating email worms are targeting users of Outlook Express? They do so for two reasons: 1) the software is extremely insecure and 2) lots of people use it. So why be a lemming? Use something like Pegasus. It has excellent IMAP support, which will allow you to work with the mail in your SpamCop account as well as any other accounts you may have, and it's very safe. Nobody is writing worms to exploit weaknesses in Pegasus. You'll find it at: http://www.pmail.com DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underestimated Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 Thanks for the comments. I believe I actually do have everything finally set to my preference now. My spamcop mail & all other email are now filtered through spamcop and are now forwarded to a new private (never to be revealed) address through my OE. My new outgoing address via OE is now my spamcop address (with a new digital ID already assigned). Tah dah! Once a day or every other day I can go to the web client to quick report the "herd" of spam needing to be "culled." (Single click action for multiple spam email.) As for vulnerabilities and viruses directed at OE... I have always been able to defeat them (and I have been through some big attack sequences). If spamcop is doing its job correctly in filtering my email, then I now have an added level of protection (right?). Thanks again for the help and suggestions. Any additional advice/comments is/are, as always, much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidT Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 As for vulnerabilities and viruses directed at OE... I have always been able to defeat them (and I have been through some big attack sequences). If spamcop is doing its job correctly in filtering my email, then I now have an added level of protection (right?). Yes, SpamCop does do virus filtering, at least for the viruses that it's antivirus modules "know" how to recognize. That system has actually been inadvertently turned off a few times recently, during problems with the SC mail servers, and worms were allowed through. Also, you'll be susceptible to any brand-new viruses that the filters don't catch, so you can choose to live dangerously. I try to use as little from Micro$loth as possible, but I haven't yet gone to the extrememe of switching operating systems. DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbiel Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 <snip>My spamcop mail & all other email are now filtered through spamcop and are now forwarded to a new private (never to be revealed) address through my OE. My new outgoing address via OE is now my spamcop address (with a new digital ID already assigned). Tah dah! <snip>16832[/snapback] I hate to burst your bubble, but the fact still remains that SMTP service is NOT availble from SpamCop via a local client. What you have done, and what anyone can do, is simple set your "From" and/or "Reply to" addresses to your SpamCop address. You can set these to anything you like, that's why they are so often forged by spammers and useless in determining where mail actually came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underestimated Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 I hate to burst your bubble, but the fact still remains that SMTP service is NOT availble from SpamCop via a local client. Yeppers! You are quite right about the SC SMTP issue. I'm still disappointed about that because I can get SMTP through my ISP along with 100 email addresses, filtering, internet connection, etc. for 1/3rd the price. Major Bummer! (Granted: SC has a good service to offer, but for the price, SMTP would be nice.) What you have done, and what anyone can do, is simple set your "From" and/or "Reply to" addresses to your SpamCop address. 16846[/snapback] Nope. My "from" & "reply to" addresses are the same. As I said in my last post, it works the way I want it to work now. Although I am thinking about scrapping OE... just thinking about it... for web email... hmmm... still thinking... Thank you, though, for your assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underestimated Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 I try to use as little from Micro$loth as possible... 16836[/snapback] Too funny! I will think about what you said, though. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbiel Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Yeppers! You are quite right about the SC SMTP issue. I'm still disappointed about that because I can get SMTP through my ISP along with 100 email addresses, filtering, internet connection, etc. for 1/3rd the price. Major Bummer! (Granted: SC has a good service to offer, but for the price, SMTP would be nice.) Nope. My "from" & "reply to" addresses are the same. As I said in my last post, it works the way I want it to work now. Although I am thinking about scrapping OE... just thinking about it... for web email... hmmm... still thinking... Thank you, though, for your assistance. 16853[/snapback] I though you said My new outgoing address via OE is now my spamcop address As far as SMTP goes, price has nothing to do with it. SpamCop could provide it without any additional cost, the issue is security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underestimated Posted September 11, 2004 Author Share Posted September 11, 2004 Okay then. A point of clarification, dbiel. 1) My new outgoing address via OE is now my spamcop address. 2) My "from" & "reply to" addresses are the same. 3) Yes. I know SC SMTP is not available for email client programs. (I did sort of point that out in my first post.) I thought I already said these things, but here they are again. Make whatever deductions you want. No more hints! (We can save "security vs. service" for another day and another thread, dbiel, but thanks again for your help.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G. Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 For those still interested in an actual answer to the OP's original problem, please see Jeff G.'s Hotspot SMTP-Auth Provider Status Report. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shreff Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I too, have been a bit confused, but got up to speed. I wished to send outgoing mail through a different address than my ISP sometimes. It seems like a smart way to hide your real mail box. But after reading some posts (search on OUTGOING) I learned it's just our dream. Heck even the FAQ for "POPing out of SpamCop" said "Leave the SMTP server set up with the server your ISP provides. Email from your email program will go out through your ISP without passing through SpamCop." :angry: Darn, so either we have to divulge our true ID, or like others posted in this thread, you just put bullcrap in the from field because it doesn't really mean anything. That surprised me. But I do like to put my spamcop address in thereply to field. That part seems to get mail coming back here instead of ending up at the ISP. It's the best workaround. IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenUnderwood Posted April 21, 2005 Share Posted April 21, 2005 I have not edited this reply because, truthfully, I don't know where to split it I have tried several different ways, and all end up with different meanings: I too, have been a bit confused, but got up to speed. I wished to send outgoing mail through a different address than my ISP sometimes. It seems like a smart way to hide your real mail box. But after reading some posts (search on OUTGOING) I learned it's just our dream. Heck even the FAQ for "POPing out of SpamCop" said "Leave the SMTP server set up with the server your ISP provides. Email from your email program will go out through your ISP without passing through SpamCop." :angry: Darn, so either we have to divulge our true ID, or like others posted in this thread, you just put bullcrap in the from field because it doesn't really mean anything. That surprised me. But I do like to put my spamcop address in thereply to field. That part seems to get mail coming back here instead of ending up at the ISP. It's the best workaround. IMHO 26739[/snapback] Maybe I am confused because you use the generic "address". If you wish to send outgoing mail through a different IP address, then you need to find a service that offers that, spamcop does not and has never pretended to. If you wish to send outgoing mail through a different email address, then all you have to do (if your ISP allows it) is change the sending address to whatever you like and still send the message through the ISP servers. That is what I do all the time with Charter cable. The only way a recipient of my email would know I even use Charter is to look at the headers. The sending address shows as "Steven P. Underwood <x[at]spamcop.net>" and all replies also go to the spamcop address. Another alternative would be as you state to use the reply-to address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shreff Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 ...change the sending address to whatever you like and still send the message through the ISP servers. That is what I do all the time with Charter cable. The only way a recipient of my email would know I even use Charter is to look at the headers. ... Another alternative would be as you state to use the reply-to address. 26759[/snapback] There I edited out myself myself! I have had total success thanks to these last few posts, so will spread the word for anyone else eager to hide their true email address SU is right, now I realize there were 2 places to put the same information 1>put it in the FROM: field. That's what he's calling "sending" above but Netscape calls Identity That took me months to figure out it didn't HAVE to be your ISP. I didn't know that and had my real ISP address in there and only put my SC address in #2. (next) 2>the "reply to:" field. Duh, I had that and just did't think to put it into #1 instead. Conclusion, put your SC address in #1 then you don't even need to bother #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wazoo Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Good news! There is just that small caveat though, there are a number od USPs out there that 'verify' the outgoing e-mail by looking at that address, and will make the decision that as the domain in the e-mail address doesn't match (the ISP's domain) the e-mail will not fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidT Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 there are a number od USPs out there that 'verify' the outgoing e-mail by looking at that address None that I've ever had to deal with. I think the number is small...go ahead with this method. DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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