MASSIVE LAWSUIT AGAINST SCOTT RICHTER... in SpamCop Lounge Posted May 14, 2004 · Edited May 14, 2004 by HillsCap Merlyn wrote: [There are other ways.] Well, then you should tell us those ways... I've tried everything else, and the only effective means of spam abatement I've found is to hit them where it hurts. I've gotten 13 spams in the past 30 days, without using Block Lists, without blocking delivery of any emails. I've got a straight, unhindered shot from the internet to my Inbox. How many spams did you get over the last month? But it wasn't an easy road to get to 13 per month... I fought the spammers 24/7 (literally) for months on end (a 'luxury' I'm afforded because I work out of the house)... I developed specialized software to allow semi-automated reporting of high volumes of spam, and more software to do high-volume LART'ing, and even more software is in the works (just wait 'til you see what I've got in store for you next spammers, it'll knock your socks off. Picture FriedSpam.net on steroids, and completely untraceable back to the users). Jebuz Jones is correct, the spammers drew the line in the sand... I'm just stepping up to that line, and going toe-to-toe with the spammers. And you know what? They hit like girls, and they've got glass jaws. I mean, come on, spammers! Is a DDoS all you can come up with? I've got measures in place that slow your DDoS to a crawl and prevent it from affecting my machines, and it doesn't affect my ability to access the internet. Trying to hack into my machines? Please... it'll only get you reported to your ISP and law enforcement (and I don't even have to lift a finger for that to happen). Mail-bombing? You've tried this before, you know it doesn't work when I can handle more mail than you can throw at me. And you know if you try any of these, I'll track you down... I'll get server logs and do electronic forensics until I've got you... then you're going down. If someone kept breaking into your house, despite the fact that you've installed security measures, put a high fence and signs, then crapped on your carpet each time they wormed their way into your home, I GUARANTEE you wouldn't ask them nicely to leave... you'd beat the living hell out of them, especially when they kept coming back, and most especially if you found that there were no police for you to call. Why? Because they're not only violating your personal domain, they're leaving behind something that you find offensive, and costing you money because you now have to clean your carpet, not to mention the expense of those security measures, that high fence and those 'Keep Out' signs. It's the same thing with spammers... they worm their way into your Inbox (your personal domain, much as your home is your personal domain) by hook or by crook, then dump their load of crap there (crapping on your carpet), and keep coming back despite the fact that you've set up security measures, high fences and 'Keep Out' signs (anti-spam software, disposable email addresses, email address obfuscation on websites, Block Lists, etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum). And there's no police to call... (weak legislation, no strict penalties, very little enforcement of existing legislation). Well, I've had enough... I'm beating the living hell out of every one of them that worms their way into my Inbox and leaves their crap pile there. Meanwhile, we still have to work on convincing our policitians to give us effective legislation that protects us from the spammers, with strict punishments doled out for those who violate that legislation. I think of my email Inbox much as I think of my fax machine... if I were receiving hundreds of unsolicited faxes daily, I'd do something about it because IT IS COSTING ME. Same thing with email... it costs all of us in additional bandwidth, time, resources, and frustration having to deal with spam. The amount of cost is much smaller per spam than per fax, but the concept is exactly the same. And the laws that apply to fax machines should apply to email, as well.