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About braden

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  1. I'm in the same boat as Sten; and I did precisely that yesterday. So far: silence. I am no longer convinced that the customers of this service are perceived as anything other than an annoyance. I feel like I'm in a dysfunctional relationship where the other party doesn't have the courage to break it off; so instead behaves like an ass until I'm forced to terminate the relationship. And now, today, more missing e-mail. I'm wondering if CESmail is under some contractual obligation to keep this service "alive" (such as it is). Maybe it's just time to pack it in.
  2. My reason is, "I also use another IMAP client with this account that uses a 'virtual' trash folder, so I'm looking to achieve consistent operation between the two." This, of course, means that I can do the expunge from the other client. It's just such a common operation that I'm surprised to find it unavailable in the webmail interface.
  3. Er... again, I'm fully aware of the extent of the delete operation's function. I'm not suggesting that "delete" should do something different; I'm looking for an "expunge" operation. This is common in IMAP clients. Sometimes it's called "compact". Actually, that seems not to be quite true. Using quick reporting appears to perform the expunge operation as a side effect.
  4. Yes, I understand that deleting a message does not actually expunge it. This doesn't directly address whether an expunge operation is available. Though I'm beginning to think that it's not. I also can't find the "show deleted messages" option anywhere. Being able to turn that off would make this configuration a little more usable. (Assuming that, at some point, the deleted messages are actually expunged somehow rather than allowed to fill up storage indefinitely.) To phrase this another way, there doesn't seem to be a way to empty the trash in this configuration. If, under "Login Tasks", I configure it to purge trash at every login, logging out and back in does not change the contents of the virtual trash folder.
  5. I've turned on the "virtual trash" option in the webmail interface and turned off moving messages to the (real) trash folder. But in this scenario, I can find no way to expunge deleted messages. I would have expected "empty trash" to do it--but that seems to have no effect at all. Is there no way to do this?
  6. E-mail address verification messages from Orkut don't appear in either my Inbox or my Held Mail. I have my SpamCop mail account configured to download mail from the mail box to which the message from Orkut was sent. I know the e-mail is getting that far. But once SpamCop downloads it, I cannot find it anywhere. Here are the headers for the e-mail: Received: (qmail 31725 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2006 02:31:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pre-smtp02-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) ([]) (envelope-sender <noreply-orkut[at]google.com>) by smtp08-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <braden[at]endoframe.com>; 24 Jun 2006 02:31:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 25865 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2006 02:31:18 -0000 Received: from oproxy.google.com (HELO nz-out-0102.google.com) ([]) (envelope-sender <noreply-orkut[at]google.com>) by pre-smtp02-02.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for <braden[at]endoframe.com>; 24 Jun 2006 02:31:18 -0000 Received: by nz-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id n11so7088965nzg for <braden[at]endoframe.com>; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:31:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=google.com; h=from:to:received:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-sender:reply-to:sender:subject:date; b=Z0M4A6n8TCouV0PKM7yyiifJ0bGQJpmk2lGXBV351ibwAxNoGiEjQ4rPAV4p69KraJ/UCueCYEQ6Dh8fQa/3rw== From: orkut <3504732672376623859[at]orkut.com> To: braden[at]endoframe.com Received: by with SMTP id q17mr804915wra; Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:31:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: 1151116278.6.3504732672376623859.4[at]orkut.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Sender: GAAAAJ_eeey_CE4Nz7G1gGNEgHpkP0SeVlnP4n78mB-bm2uD Reply-To: "orkut" <noreply-orkut[at]google.com> Sender: noreply-orkut[at]google.com Subject: orkut - email confirmation Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:31:18 -0700 X-Nonspam: None
  7. It's a failure to deal with bad input, resulting in deviant behavior by the program. Where I come from, that's a bug; but whatever. When this happened previously I was able to download the messages directly to my mail client (Evolution); that strongly suggests that this is fixable. Would you (or SpamCop personnel, if not you personally) be able to fix it if a problem e-mail message could be isolated? If so, I can try to do that the next time this happens.
  8. Thanks for the explanation. I do not ordinarily download mail from the mail.endoframe.com server; I let SpamCop retrieve it and then I retrieve it from SpamCop. So the only "app" connecting would be SpamCop's downloader; and thus from your description it sounds as though some bug in that app prevented it from properly handling a (probably malformed) e-mail.
  9. I didn't try downloading the mail to a mail client; but I had a similar problem about a month ago, and then downloading the mail to a mail client seemed to "fix" the problem. And this time it looks like getting rid of some spam in the account "fixed" it. The common element: clearing out some of the existing e-mail makes SpamCop's POP mail downloading work again. I found some old postings suggesting that SpamCop wouldn't download "blank" e-mail; but in this case it seems like some problematic e-mail kept SpamCop from downloading any of the messages that were present. Why would this be so?
  10. And now it seems to be working. All I did was delete some spam that was in the account via the domain host's Web mail interface.
  11. I use SpamCop's POP account checking to download mail from my mail.endoframe.com account. It seems to have stopped working sometime last night. SpamCop's Web mail configuration interface shows "Cannot contact server" in the error column; yet I'm able to ping mail.endoframe.com.