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  1. I've read through this thread, and it looks like the "good" folks at spamcop have developed a hatred of Yahoo--it's become personal. Unfortunately, that doesn't do users who are getting delisted from Yahoo accounts because of refusals to deliver mail from their servers due to spamcop listings any good.

    What's so funny about this is it sounds like, from the thread, that spamcop has other options than simply delisting Yahoo permanently--apparently Yahoo uses "nonstandard" headers, and bounces to forged addresses. Perhaps spamcop should, on that basis, change their software to look for those nonstandard headers (although it looks like that has now changed, and Yahoo is using standard headers), and not worry about bounces to forged addresses from Yahoo servers.

    Instead of worrying about where to place the blame, and screaming and yelling at people about Yahoo's problems (which the posters here cannot control), FIX THE PROBLEM. I don't care if it's Yahoo's problem. If you have the ability to fix it, then fix it. It's like going to a mechanic to have your brakes fixed, and he says, in a tone of indignation: "I'm NOT going to, it's the manufacture's fault that they're broken!"

    I've sent a request to my hosting provider that they stop using spamcop as a service, not so much because of the problems I'm having, but because of the ATTITUDE I see on this forum.

    Fix problems, not blame. Maybe when spamcop starts losing business because they won't adjust to the world around them, instead just yelling in self righteous indignation, they will get the message, and figure out how to fix this on their end.


  2. Y'all:

    On occassion, I get an email stating my domain, riw.us, has been blocked because it's on the spamcop list. For instance, I've pasted in the "included message" from one such notification below. What I don't understand is that when I check, my IP address (either for mail.riw.us or riw.us) is not on the list at all. It seems like this happens on a periodic basis, but I can't ever trace the root cause. I don't know if someone else is faking my addresses, or what, but the server isn't open (it requires a username and password to use SMTP, although the originating domain is not checked, since this is a hosting service, rather than a "full ISP").

    Does anyone have any thoughts or insight into the spamcop database that would help me keep from haiving email bounce?



    Return-Path: <>

    Received: (qmail 17829 invoked for bounce); 9 Dec 2005 12:08:30 -0000

    Date: 9 Dec 2005 12:08:30 -0000

    From: MAILER-DAEMON[at]associate.com

    To: prophezine-ldp-return-30258-[at]welovegod.org

    Subject: failure notice

    Hi. This is the qmail-send program at associate.com.

    I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.

    This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

    <russ[at]riw.us>: failed on DATA command.

    Remote host said: 553 sorry, your mailserver [] is rejected by See http://spamcop.net/

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