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QUESTION: May I set up some anti-spam system using SpamCop on my hosted accounts via cPanel that will scan incoming email and mark and/or delete/report known spam? PRELUDE: Assume: there are 20 domains under a shared-hosting reseller account. Each domain has anywhere between 1 to 10 email accounts. each domain has it's own cPanel each has a email system (see Image 1 below) spam Filters is powered by Apache SpamAssassin™ Professional spam Filter is a separate charge many business-card size domains don't want to pay for. SUMMARY: As it is, there is a great amount of spam even with SpamAssassin set to 2.5. I know very little about automating SpamCop to detect, report, and delete spam on the server side; ego my question. I seem to remember being told that SpamHause, and Assassin both use SpamCop somehow. How? CONCLUSION: I would like to have SpamCop working via the server to delete known spam before it gets to the client email, and/or report spam known by client. ~O~

Sorry, but that was gone after I posted the query. Yet reading everyone's response has helped me understand it better. I've no idea how, after email is checked for at minimum, 5 minutes and as for this one, as I've seen with as few others, show up two or three days late. Thanks for the help.

Occasionally I get errors when manually posting. Then SpamCop (SC) says it's too old. Today is May 4. It was 0915Hrs when I posted the text copy of spam at SC. This account checked every 5 minutes for email. Out of 34 mail accounts I monitor, this is the only one that would be sitting at server not picked up for (I don't use web-mail). It is highly unlikely that it would sit on server for 6 minutes, let alone 6 days! This is a spam that sells PSD's (Personal Safety Devices AKA PPE) through China. I'm sure others have reported it, but... It was received on the server TODAY @ 0434HRs TODAY. It seems spammers are able to backdate their garbage, or hold it then send it a few days later to circumvent being caught. Could that be the case? If so, I'll not bother investigating China-only server-side dates. Thanks ~o~

These pop up now: Happens with both FireFox and Chrome. 'nuff said about that. ~o~

Thanks gnarlymarley. It's great having people like yourself jump in and help us noobs Sorry again for delayed response - - - again to switching out Mother boards. ~o~

Thanks @Lking I asked my Host if I am permitted to use Spamcop in some way. Tech support said "Yes". I HAD access to Professional spam filter but a while ago the host raised the rates and replaced "Free" with 'Add-ons Extra' and disabled Pro spam Filter. We just have Apache spam Assassin / spam Filter. I gather I need to buy access to the add-on Pro spam Filter? It's in cPanel, but haven't used it since they disabled it and started charging extra for it. I am just feeling my way around Spamcop, and anti-spam server-side. If I NEED Pro spam Assassin, I have a hard time caving in to extortion by the Host - as I see it. ~o~ BTW - Will there be, or is there any move to getting a payment gateway for adding "fuel" to SpamCop??

THE QUESTION: Is there a guide that helps one establish the relationship tween SC and the mail servers so any inbound SC-designated spam, is deleted? In another Thread/Post/Topic (depends on your language) 'gnarlymarley - Advanced Member' said: First, I read the 300+ lines of links in the FAQ - but most discuss "Page Not Found - 404" - so I ask here. BACKGROUND: I have 64 domains, each with their so-called "own mail server". I have access via WHM (crippleware)/ cPanel to each domain. FYI: The 'free' (un-huh) "SpamAssassin" was replaced with the costly "Professional spam Filter" by the server hosts. Being the host is a affiliate of "Professional spam Filter", explains why they did it, but doesn't explain where their ethics and morals went. TIA -0-

Wonderful but I already knew that some people would like SpamCop to use PayPal. Add me to the list, or is the link a subtle survey?

Thank you everyone for your help. I just tried to contribute to a subscription or whatever it's called but our policy does not permit me to use anything other than a recognized payment gateway. That is something that Spamcop should catch up on and the only option to not giving up credit card info is by ... "check or money-order" which is even more primitive. I am main online buyer for where I work, and I can't remember when the last was that I saw a web site ask for credit card info, that wasn't PayPal, Swipe or Digital Rivers etcetera. When there is a payment gateway - I'll spend some money. Thanks ~0~

My thanks to everyone with your replies. I am sorry for long delay in responding, but a dead mother board has me scrambling to rebuild with out loosing everything and Windows doesn't like me starting it without me putting on my leash - which took 2 days to convince, It's MY computer :) I've read everything twice. I'm still at a loss as to how I benefit directly except to bypass the "7 minute" nag screen (see image) {Start sidebar}Soon as my ISP gets some semblance of support for me to change my account password - it fainted because I have a new comp and won't let me log in until I contact support which doesn't answer voice or chat. It's a stupid world. To many kiddie-koders being oh so 'kewl' in reading my GPU, CPU, and APU, MACs and not recognizing, it won't let me log in. Dumb donkeys! I wish they'd go back to crayons and coloring book. (had to rant somewhere :) ) {End sidebar} Now that I'm back online, I can contribute to the cause - how ever it works :) Thanks EVERYONE. ~o~ p.s. @petzl Over my dead router!

There is a read-only FAQ(?) at "http://forum.spamcop.net/topic/14783-what-is-spamcop" and therein is a set of bulleted links near the top: see image below: All links results in... Hmmmm ~o~

Thanks for that @petzl. The reporting site isn't very clear how it works. But it begs the question: Preamble: I use real Email - not a webpage Wmail GUI. I have several emails hosted by several different mail servers. Each has their own very weak anti-spam - useless in the short run. Most use cPanels " Apache SpamAssassin " and even with the spam Threshold Score set to 2, spams still invades with it's garbage. I copy & paste the spam contents (in Thunderbird it's Tool Bar > View > Message Source) to SpamBot reporting form. The QUESTION: By reporting spam to SC, how does it 1*protect me from more spam? Do mail hosts have to subscribe (free or otherwise) to SC or CISCO mail servers in order to avoid the spam? I just don't understand how CISCO can help block spam I've reported unless mail routs through CISCO mail servers somehow. I certainly don't mind, tho do resent, paying for another level of anti-spam. The nagger says "$15.00 for 2 years". Will that be enough to avoid nag screen? ~ Just another Google♟~ BTW - I love this forum's GUI.

My reporting spam doesn't affect me except in the very slightest sense. As I see it, when anyone sends a report in, a binary bit-chomper anaylze3s headers, content and when set number (probably in the thousands) sends in the same, it raises a flag. SC sends copies to ABUSE@ wherever, and when THEY get enough, another flag is raised and that bit-chomper takes a serious look at it. Then, and only if there are a large number of same filings, the chomper puts the offender into it's database. Mail servers subscribing to SC receive the offenders IP and another bit-chomper suspends the email users account. It takes more than just one person and SC doesn't take my word for it and block spam coming to me. So my entry is just one of thousands assisting to maintain SCs database so they can sell subscriptions to mail servers who in turn will block the sender IF and only IF there are enough complaints. When I submit, and am told to wait 15 seconds and can get past the delay IF I pay, it's still a smarmy way of treating the volunteering help. Give I get the time, I might auto it to forward. But in reality, it's the Trashnets way of doing business. R.I.P Internet. I see no reason to continue this discussion since you and probably others, think it's OK to nag volunteers into paying to help. Thanks for your opinions petzl, and goodbye O

Thanks for that. But I did say ..." I know there are easier ways, " and anyway, I can read the reporting page. Try it and you'll see the nag screen. SC wouldn't be in business if people didn't report the spam. Maybe, if we're lucky tobacco companies will follow the CISCO/SC trend and shoot their suppliers too, or politicians their voters, thugs shoot the gun manufactures... yup charging helpers is typical kiddie-kewl Googleism. I don't like to be insulted by CISCO/SC with nag screens prompting me to pay them to help them with their database. I've been feeding SC ONLY 1 maybe 3 spam reports a day for I don't know how long - lost count. But contrary to your point, I will NOT be assimilated because I don't mind helping, but refuse to pay to do so. "auto-acks"???? Eeek! Ack!! Oook! WTH? 'Nuff. Until they loose the nag screen for helping, SC can find their own spam and I'll save time and just delete them. Thanks petzl for reiterating their position, O

Don't get me wrong, I very much appreciate the job anti-spam companies are doing and glad I can be of help by reporting spam. It doesn't seem reciprocal. ISSUE: As I understand it, every time I report spam to SpamCop (SC), I am helping CISCO/SC. My preferred method of reporting spam is to copy & paste the 'source'. I know there are easier ways, but I get a sense of pleasure feeling I've helped to tighten the noose. I use real email via a client, not public Wmail. (I hate Webmail and their stalkers) After clicking "Submit" I have to wait - and in the start it was 5 seconds. Now it's 18 seconds! I know I can PAY SC to rid the NAG screen and report immediately. How fair is it that I am being nagged to pay SC so others (and CISCO) may benefit from my meager contribution of my time? I see it as I am working for SC. I don't mind volunteering my time to report, but sure as Hades don't appreciate being penalized for it. Why am I penalized with a 18 second (an growing) nag screen? If SC wants help, it's a odd way of treating helpers. O