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SpamCop will forward filtered email to an email account of your choice I suggest one open a Gmail Account and use a super secret email Addy like "dodadumdumdewidiwidi84" Your held folder will still work as will "Very Easy Reporting" (VER) using SpamCop

Sending Mail / SMTP Server smtp.cesmail.net Port 587 Receiving Mail (regular connection) pop.spamcop.net User/Logon Full SpamCop Email address Password (Maximum 30 Characters) You should stop using your other email address (let it run dry over time) and use your SpamCop one only anddirectly.This removes the incompetence problems your provider sticks you with Pay to just mark message read leave on server http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...ost&p=79165

Don't use outlook Help page http://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/122.html Tool http://www.spamgrabber.org/ SpamCopWiki http://forum.spamcop.net/scwik/OutlookMicrosoft

The new version will show as SpamCop.net v4.7.0.111 So the upgrade was successful This number is shown when you report spam at top of page http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z5461978436za...a20af63d5b3fccz So thanks to SC staff and the development engineers in Elbonia

Nope! Once an IP is blocked by Hotmail group it's unlikely to be unblocked EVER The only way is for SpamCop to use a different IP 29th December I tried Hotmails auto removal We have completed reviewing the IP(s) you submitted. The following table contains the results of our investigation. No action taken 216.154.195.49 The system found that the reported IP(s) are not eligible for automatic mitigation. Seems there is very little spam from that IP Was 99 and dropped a bit so seems spamtraps are still being hit?

The IP is clean it did not have DNS set correctly when this first started being blocked and many blocklists are unforgiving if Reverse DNS is not set right (it is now) Webmail is now using a different IP 216.154.195.54 which Hotmail accepts

Microsoft also bounce email from SpamCop sent via SMTP Thought I would try and ask their abuse desk to release IP 216.154.195.49 It is clean And The following message to <abuse[at]hotmail.com> was undeliverable. The reason for the problem: 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 550-"SC-001 (BAY0-MC3-F40) Unfortunately, messages from 216.154.195.49 weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network is on our block list. Abuse addresses are not meant to be blocked? Seems strange that they don't do nothing with other spammers ever? My Hotmail junk folder was getting full of porn pharm phishing Any blocking list needs a "white hlist" for any block list to be overridden or it just gives false positives

Yes I use Win7 32 bit not sure what portable apps are available for Linux but just using thunderbirds inbuilt back-up should help a bit? I just zip the whole lot up when it gets over 2 gig (date it "backwards 20111106 year/month/day) After 4 gigs worth I burn them to data DVD disk. Another with Thunderbird is the PGP use is easy but you have to look for "Enigmail" Go to "Tools" then select "Add-ons" then "Extensions" I mention this because many email providers (companies ISP's, Goverment etc) read your mail (electronically but maybe also manually if flagged?) I have noticed Gmail target my age (YouTube etc) and I have never given it to them? even my name is false, this seems to be from "dating companies" with Ladies my age also also other cruise-lines and so on? Don't mind the cruise lines but giving out my age? Makes me wonder what else is looked for I get my "junk" email sent there (Gmail) from Supermarket/Cruise ships/etc which have these details and often send me "happy birthday".Bit hard to convince people but your identity is at risk and maybe PGP keys aren't such a bad idea (Very easy to use with Thuderbird and SpamCop Webmail)

Your email is coming back if not now shortly IMAP is good and no reason to not keep using it Just as an extra use a USB email program as well to POP say once an hour a day whatever Thing is this not likely to happen for another 20 years

I suggest this method HERE And HERE Maybe someone has a better idea? [edit] prompted by appeal in another topic now pinned

My prayers go out to her A good friend with heart in right place

The original was a minimum of 30 minutes between retries any quicker a permanent rejection Greylisting works and the only static will be from those that don't want it or any spam prevention (except their own) to work NANAE (news.admin.net-abuse.email) is full of them. I think 15 minutes would now be a safe resend time, as spam runs go for hours and are unlikely to resend (a big problem if a server is set to permanently reject email on attempts greater than 30 minutes) The latest and changing is When a mail server is greylisted, the duration of time between the initial delay and the re-transmission is variable. Some mail servers use a default of four hours, though most will retry sooner. Most open-source MTAs have retry rules set to attempt delivery after around fifteen minutes (Sendmail default is 0, 15, ..., Exim default is 0, 15, ..., Postfix default is 0, 16.6, ..., Qmail default is 0, 6:40, 26:40, ..., Courier default is 0, 5, 10, 15, 30, 35, 40, 70, 75, 80,...). Microsoft Exchange defaults to 0, 1, 2, 22, 42, 62 ...

Never had it turn up immediately, but it has within 15 minutes sometimes longer I try to whitelist any domain I'm expecting mail from (best practice) Also I'm not clear myself as to what takes place if one selects "allow" on "pending entries" It may just allow/OK very next email to pass straight through. Greylisting just sends a temporary reject message to resend which a compliant mail server ("RFC 821") must do within a set time (30 t0 60 minutes?).

During and just before "boot up" push "F5" (exact moment) then one of the options will be to choose a restore point. Once selected Windows will then load/start to the selected restore point The issue though is likely to be a software one that will not work with the Vista/windows update Consider running CCleaner (particularly Registry it's Freeware)

This is the latest I got from this creep http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1903842507z8...;action=display

[at]tigeronline.com is not whitelisted REMOVE THE [at] symbol and it would be eg tigeronline.com will whitelist

Configurability I were referring to was what administration can do not the user And keep up the good work Thanks

My understanding is that Greylisting is configurable around a whitelisting of email address (or domain) and mail server IP/s (?) A blacklist of email addresses ad IP can also be configured (I think in a time out of 2 hours?) As everything in greylisting is configurable A main disadvantage of greylisting is the 30 minute wait that becomes part of greylisting. SpamCop Email no doubt are using what is the best set-up, but have to keep cards to chest as spammers read this newsgroup JeffT last update and is still looking

Greylisting works for me (and a major majority of users) that is not to say it will be everyone's cup of tea As for Gmail I only see it as good for recieving email not sending. (Hotmail is a better choice as it is competently set-up) That said I did a test from Gmail and recieved it in 30 minutes

Is there anyway the SMTP "HELO" command can be enhanced to block spam or use with a greylist? All the spam I see getting through has "Received: from unknown (HELO gwlrtjk) (201.38.214.16)" I would like to know if one could also get an option to reject/hold email on a improper HELO response? Or are there to many incompetent providers out there (A reason not to auto accept an email account from a ISP?) Perhaps at first one should just tag such email as ???

The same email address is reused for a few hours though (probably the same spam run) Where the spammer is sending again and again? I'm suggesting a blacklist be made and then reset/expire every two/three hours. Greylisting can maybe still send "try again"? Just trying to get spam passing down to zero It may be in too hard basket but just suggesting. I do see you are improving things as we speak (trevorb's post). If whitelisting can be succesfully implemented the retry time can be increased/doubled meaning even less spam should get past

Thanks for the info One feature, now disabled, was for spamcop VER reporting was to add to a "From" Blacklist. Can this be re-enabled for "SpamCop Greylist"? Idealy to make a fingerprint of both "From and IP address"?

spam I see being sent is multiple of same spams sent again again again etc (e.g Canadian pharm) It is though then trapped by SpamCop emails spam filters. The spam getting held is in greatly reduced numbers than before turning GeyListing on Just wondering how this is getting past Greylisting in first place? As GreyListing stops the reporting of that spam it "retries" without response I see these lists getting weakened (So my/the idea is to make SpamCops GreyListing 100% perfect and better than the rest) If however GreyListing stops spammers without need for reporting this becomes a good thing Although initially slow but less than a hour before I received test emails from colleagues? Is there also a over time limit for GreyList reply?). Importantly no test emails sent have disappeared (no false positives) I wonder if the GreyListing "whitelist" can be compared to the SCBL with entries removed periodically or even immediately. So far all IP's I checked and have made it through to my spam folder were listed on the SCBL and not mail servers(the SCBL is reluctant to list mail servers) Can SpamCop email customers add to the "SpamCop GreyList whitelist" in WebMail options (with email "from" field) Ideally my existing whitelist

I suspect the way for spammers to get through GreyListing is to simply send two (or more) spams The first will be sent for "retry". The spammers second spam (from same IP) is then passed by SpamCop as a "response" to first spam and whitelisted

http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1414845532zd...2875ec5dc920dbz IP source 84.229.49.9 http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1414845542zd...f8f63cbb327ff4z IP source 218.7.192.70 Turned on GreyListing and leave spam filters active There are still some getting to my held mail? None seem to be mail servers? Why are they getting through I only use SpamCop email no forwarding or POP spam is greatly reduced however Others http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1414845551z1...3a6a3abfabd784z http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1414845559zc...6b7eff90311223z http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1414845571za...16f3a6da5cb47ez http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z1414845580zd...088ae7057b4b07z Not sure yet if "innocent' but incompetent providers are getting bounced but it is worth a try