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ViRGE

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  1. Indeed. At this point Cisco/CESmail has more than met their original agreement. So the fact that they're even still willing to forward Spamcop.net accounts is a welcome situation. Otherwise I'm not sure Cisco owes us anything at this point; we're no longer paying for the service.
  2. It's still going on this morning, so whatever it was it hasn't stopped. And actually it's a bit annoying not because it's getting through, but because since it's being handed off via SC/Cisco's servers, it's getting negative (ham) points with SpamAssassin for coming from a reliable source.
  3. I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but I'm suddenly seeing a fair bit of spam come through on my old Spamcop account. It tends to mostly be of the "Buy cheap Meds" variety, and prior to about two weeks ago I wasn't seeing anything like this. Given how obvious and easy to block it is, I'm wondering whether Cisco changed their forwarding policy to stop silently dropping spam. Though there aren't any headers to indicate that the Ironport equipment is IDing it as spam...
  4. It's dead, Jim. You can file a complaint, but there's no one left to get money from or enact revege upon.
  5. One of mine was eventually bounced, while the other made is through. lost connection with vmx5.spamcop.net[184.94.240.124] while performing the EHLO handshake
  6. Ditto on forwarding appearing to be stalled/broken this afternoon. Further test emails aren't coming through.
  7. Well it's an unceremonious end. But at least it's an end. After the problems over the last 2 years, I'm just happy CESmail and Cisco found a way to wind things down. But in it's heyday it was a good service, and for that I will miss it.
  8. At this point you should be treating Spamcop.net email forwarding as a last resort option. Cisco has indicated that they are not going to offer it forever, and as already been noted it's not a very flexible system. It's a patch job to make sure we don't lose our Spamcop email addresses on (relatively) short notice. You should be switching all of your services to use your new email host ASAP.
  9. For what it's worth, as of late this evening all forwarding is working correctly for me. But I admittedly don't know if my account was one of the accounts that was previously affected by the virtual alias table issue.
  10. One alternative that I've found that's working for me is Namecheap's OXmail based private email service. https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/email.aspx These days my email volume is rather low, so even though it's a pretty bare-bones plan at just 3GB of email storage it's big enough for my needs. They're not an anti-spam specialist like CESmail, but their default email filtering policies of SpamAssassin plus some RBLs (including Spamcop) is catching the limited amount of spam that ends up hitting me. Since I already hold a domain through them - which I want to use for email purposes anyhow since Spamcop forwarding won't be forever - this ended up working well for $10/year plus the domain. Dirt easy to setup, a good webmail interface and full IMAP access, and enough inbox capacity/functionality to cover my needs.
  11. IMAP: imap.spamcop.net POP3: mail.spamcop.net
  12. Yes, they are adding a new page to the reporting system to control that, just for us. "There will be a webform on the reporting site http:spamcop.net for changing your forwarding address (AFTER Sept 30) or to stop forwarding (i.e. shutdown the spamcop/cesmail/cqmail.net email address). " You're not missing much. It's not even enabled by default due to problems with compromised accounts sending spam. CES would only enable it if you knew to request it.
  13. Continuing the sub-discussion of renewals, I got an interesting email from one of the Spamcop deputies this evening. It looks like all current account holders should be getting extended. Nothing about refunds though (since that's all CES). At this point I'd just cross my fingers that CES has the funds to issue refunds in the first place...
  14. I emailed questions[at]spamcop.net (the email address in the original announcement) asking for what they're advising customers to do in this situation and they got me sorted out.
  15. Thank you for the update. And if any of the Cisco staff are reading this, cheers to you for taking care of us. I don't imagine modifying the reporting site just for this is a simple task.
  16. For what it's worth as someone who was needing to renew shortly before the retirement, CES gladly extended my account until past the service shutdown. So they are taking care of service issues quickly and making accommodations, at least for matters that are easily resolved.
  17. That assumes the decision was made before the outages began. Which is a possibility, but far from a sure thing.
  18. I don't wish to come off as boorish or hostile, but I'm not sure everyone here appreciates the current situationCESmail as a service is on death's bed. If that wasn't already apparent after the service troubles we've had over the past year, then last week's should make it clear. Though it's not clear whether the shutdown is CES's call or Cisco's, the shutdown is a complex matter for both parties because there's more to Spamcop than just the paid email. Spamcop email addresses are also used by Cisco as part of operating the Spamcop RBL, so the shutdown impacts them as well. Even if the paid email service is going away, someone still needs to be operating Spamcop.net mail servers. Based on comments from Support, Cisco, and the original announcement, what appears to be happening is that they're pulling the plug on all CESmail services entirely on the 30th. At which point Cisco updates the Spamcop.net MX records to point to their own servers, and they begin handling all Spamcop.net email. This is also why all Spamcop.net held email and reporting integration goes away, as those systems will no longer be in place. While I don't think we should simply roll over and be happy with this, it's important to recognize that this is Cisco throwing us a bone here. Cisco clearly doesn't want to be in the paid email hosting business (which is why CES has run it all these years), but they're going to ease the transition for long-time users by doing mail forwarding so that we don't lose the use our Spamcop.net email addresses right away. The Cisco takeover isn't meant to be a replacement for the CESmail service, it's meant to offer a stop-gap solution for email address continuity. If you're expecting anything more than that, then those are going to be unrealistic expectations. While it would certainly be nice to have a proper continuation of the Spamcop paid email service, that's clearly not in the cards. This forwarding system is the best we can realistically hope for. You should plan for it to not be delivered. Since we'll be going through Cisco's email servers and won't have mailboxes to store held mail, Cisco will likely be dropping all held mail (otherwise Cisco would not be going out of their way to inform us that we can't opt out of their spam filtering).
  19. Presumably it's like any other filtering service at that point: it gets discarded. Unless they're going to send everything through and just tag it as spam.
  20. Come September 30th they'll no longer be hosting our email, just filtering it and forwarding it. That seems an accurate description to me, though if you have a better one I am all ears.
  21. As far as any of us can tell, the CESmail user base is miniscule, which is part of the reason why the service has become non-viable. While I'm sure CESmail users are reporting and improving the blacklist, I would find it highly unlikely that we're a major source of spam reports. Otherwise Spamcop would never be seeing enough email to be an effective blacklist. Functionally that's just another interface to our email accounts. Admittedly I'm reading into the announcement and taking the most literal/worst-case assumption, but it looks like they're getting rid of email hosting entirely. If they were still storing any of our email then shutting off the email service would be pointless since they'd still need to run all of the servers involved. Though this does raise a an interesting question. Previous discussions and problems with the service have hinted that CESmail already has a large number of users who are using the service to wash their email (email forwarding), and that as a result the bulk of the servers are dedicated towards receiving and forwarding email rather than storing it. In other words, most of the service is the MXes and their associated hardware. So I'm curious as to just what portion of CESmail's ongoing costs from hosting, as getting rid of hosting and becoming a filter-only service may not make the service much cheaper to run (e.g. if they aren't discontinuing the service entirely, then it may still be $30/year and for good reason).
  22. With yesterday's announcement from CESmail that they're going to be winding down their email hosting business, it looks like all of us are going to be in need of a new email host in the not too distant future. The question now is: who would be the best Spamcop alternative? I've done some research after the system problems we experienced earlier this year, and admittedly I'm shopping based on my own needs here. But honestly I haven't gone shopping for a new email provider in nearly 15 years so I'm not sure who and what to look for. These days I'm not seeing a particularly high volume of mail, so beyond 1GB or so of storage it's less about the capacity and more about the reliability and services. Really I just need an email service that can stick with me through ISP changes for another 15 years. What I'm looking for, in no particular order Excellent spam filtering IMAP/SMTP Access Domain name that isn't shared with a free email service STMP service that isn't likely to get blacklisted (i.e. hosting right next to a rented VPS spambox) Reliability Webmail access Not run by an advertising firm (e.g. Google). I don't need paranoia levels of privacy; just not having all my mail scanned to build a profile on me would be nice A bit of digging has come up with several email providers. I'd be curious if anyone here has worked with any of these guys previously, and/or has heard anything that would be of use in picking one. Runbox Pobox Fastmail MS Office 365 Redpin PolarisMail If anyone here has any thoughts on the matter, I'm greatly interested in them. If I'm going to get thrown off of CESmail, then the people most likely to know of a good similar service are the other people here using CESmail.
  23. At the end of the day you already have all the tools you need to migrate to another provider, so no matter what CESmail does you will still be okay. CESmail is still providing email forwarding, and you can use IMAP to copy all of your mail out to another system. Good news: you can. We have permission from the mods, so I've gone ahead and started a thread.
  24. I've put in a formal request for permission to discuss it. Let's not rock the boat quite yet, as they have previously made it clear that they need to be sure we don't jeopardize the forums.
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