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  1. gbta.net' post='89329' date='Jul 25 2014, 10:40 AM']

    When usingWindows Live Mail "client", Win 7, to report spam - by forwarding the spam as an attachment - I am getting replies from SpamCop indicating that the email headers have not been detected.

    Research so far indicates that this is not a new problem. And that it may result from the insertion of blank lines in the header information which should be present in the forwarded email.

    I have searched for, but been unable to find, a work around that will result in forwarded spam messages having header information which is recognizable and useable by SpamCop. What suggestions do you have?

    (replies referring to webmail and hotmail will have to be deprecated, as this query addresses the Windows 7 Livemail "client")

    I am also using the same combination of WLM [ver. 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331)] on a PC running Win7 SP1 (x86).

    I typically have no problems after submitting messages to SpamCop using the 'Forward as attachment' option.

    But every once in a while I do encounter a spam message that produces a result similar to what you described. The majority of them have turned out to be issues with the spammer's procedures, that results in a mangled/non-standard message header.

    If that is also what is happening in your situation, it is not the fault of your email client or OS, and you have no control over the situation; unless you can identify something common about those spam messages, and just not submit (skip) them. [AFAIK, 'fixing' the mangled headers before submitting would violate SC rules in most cases. But I have seen a few exceptions noted in this forum, given a 'pass' by the SC Admin, Don.]

    Good luck isolating or solving your specific issue(s) ;)

  2. Advisory: Reporting System.


    The SpamCop.net Reporting Service is scheduled to be offline and unavailablefor approximately two (2) hours beginning at 10:00 p.m. PDT on Wednesday July 11, 2012.


    The SpamCop mail service, newgroups and forums is not affected by this scheduled outage and will continue to be available throughout the maintenance.


    The SpamCop mail service, newgroups and forums are not afftected....


  3. We are not done fighting!!

    Please hang in there with us. We will get this fixed! I promise!!

    Old spam is old news. If you have submitted spam you haven't reported yet, it would be good if you will log into your account and use the "Remove all unreported spam" link, then start fresh.

    SpamCop is running slow, but it's working. For now.

    - Don D'Minion - SpamCop Admin -

    - Service[at]Admin.SpamCop.net -


    That's not the case out here, where it has not gotten back to even 'slow' yet. In fact, the situation has gone to FUBAR within the last hour.


  4. Gateway Timeout

    The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server.

    Reference #1.ea2f5cc.1341802744.c53b4f


    That is one of several symptoms related to an intermittent issue, already being discussed in this section for the last several days, under the topic 'Reporting problems today?'

    Did you try scanning through (or read) any of the existing topics in this section? Or read any of the Announcements, or the pinned Important Topics, before creating a new topic? :blush:

  5. Please keep reporting the problems you have.

    Whatever is causing the slowdowns and timeouts is not obvious. An ever increasing number of engineers are being brought in on this. Even an equipment upgrade didn't help.

    Sorry for all the trouble.

    - Don D'Minion - SpamCop Admin -

    - Service[at]Admin.SpamCop.net -


    Latest result:

    "Gateway Timeout

    The proxy server did not receive a timely response from the upstream server.

    Reference #1.4cf4c541.1341205373.1abfbc1e"

    ... and prior to that, after many different attempts, all the other failure/error messages other users have reported here. Basically, I have not been able to complete the reports of anything submitted after early-morning on June 29th.

    But then I went back to the other tab to try again just before posting this message, and a few of those earliest submissions came up to report, after about a 3 minute wait from the time the 'Report Now' link was clicked upon. However, those submissions were now more than 48 hours old, and invalid. I was then able to complete the remaining backlogged sumissions, and they seemed to come up a bit quicker, and were completed without further incident.

    And finally, I submitted a few more newer spam messages, and they still seem to be taking much longer to process and reach the reportable state (compared to when SpamCop was operating "normally").

    So whatever the cause of the 'problem' is, it still seems to come and go at random times.

  6. Thanks for the replies. I'll look into the Mozilla issue but I now think it is, to some extent, an ISP (AT&T) issue. I am now getting spam that does not have an origination record. It seems to me that kind of mail should be rejected by the ISP. Am I correct and should I complain to my ISP about filtering that?
    That situation is usually seen when the spam originated from another user of the same provider your email account is associated with. The message never passes through the Internet in those cases, it stays within the provider's own internal network.
  7. It's truly unfortunately that you can't recognize a straight question when you see it.

    - Don D'Minion - SpamCop Admin -

    - service[at]admin.spamcop.net -

    It's truly unfortuante that you can't refrain from sniping at a particular individual in an open forum. Unfortuantely, it seems childish, petty and very unprofessional to others who might read the posts.

  8. needless to say, i didn't give the information requested, because of the fact that spamcop told me it was a forgery. i'm guessing it was bogus, but it would be nice to get confirmation of my suspicions.

    Well, even if the following message was not already posted on the spamcop.net reporting site:


    There has been a large increase in phishing attempts with all webmail services, including SpamCop.

    We remind all users that we will never send out a request for personal or account information, will never send an email with a zip or executable attachment or send you a link to a zip or executable file.

    Never Click On These Links or Attachments

    ... the first and third sentences in the phishing message you received are not even logical, and don't make any sense.

    By the way, the report link you gave requires a user name and password. Do you have the Tracking URL instead?

  9. Mainly because I have to use the "outlook/eudora workaround form" due to the message coming from my netzero account.

    Have you tried forwarding the spam from your NetZero account to spamcop? It's much easier and quicker than copying and pasting, and should eliminate the cause of the problem.

    I have both a Juno and a NetZero email account (both are United Online services), and using their webmail access, report any spam received on those addresses by the forward as an attachment method. You have to pre-set that in the Sending section, under the Messages part of Options (on NetZero). It also requires Mailhost settings in spamcop.

  10. Life is such a bother. Thanks for the correction.
    ;) There were two more words that were spelled right, but were the wrong word:

    "But hay if it lets them wash me from their list..."

    Hay = animal feed

    Hey = an interjection

    "Maybe they were board..."

    Board = a piece of lumber

    Bored = not interested in something or having nothing to do

  11. "too much effort for pinnies on the dollar" I have no idea what that means :blush: "Pennies in the dollar" perhaps? Sorta makes sense in context.

    "For pennies on the dollar" = Buy (or sell) at a low relative price vs. the original cost or worth. It might be a phrase used only in the US.
  12. It seems to be coming back now, I think. I was able to get one more report submitted, but then it went back to the blank page when trying to submit the next one.

    The pages aren't actually completely blank. There is the typical bold 'spamcop.net' header/link on the top left, except twice, and the Help, Site Map and Text size adjustment links in the top right corner. Some of the time the error message "[an error occurred while processing this directive]" appears just below those links.

    Still wonky [at] 17:07 PST

  13. It appears that the SC reporting system (http://www.spamcop.net/) is either down, or experiencing some sort of technical problems for about the last 10+ minutes.

    I had forwarded 7 spam messages from one of my email accounts earlier, then arrived at the SC site to submit them. Between #s 2 and 3 I started seeing server error messages, and eventually no response at all.

    Now I am getting to the first screen showing I have unreported spam saved, but am not able to get beyond that without seeing blank or odd looking views.

    Anyone else seeing this? :unsure:

  14. would be very useful to see when the ip was listed into the blacklist. Thanks.


    No hint as to whether there is a normal listing duration or what that is, or whether there are variable listing durations, or if the continuation to listing durations is of a set period....all a bit 'mysterious'.

    Unless I misunderstood your inquiry, that information can be found at:




  15. As a fix, why not open a gmail account and have the emails from Yahoo sent to it ?

    Gmail could be accessed direct or could forward to your current mailbox.

    Or, use Yahoo's own email system. There should be far less, if any, 'blockage' between Yahoo Mail and Yahoo Groups. Yahoo Mail may not be the best available, but seems like it might be a solution your problem.

  16. Using the Help link at the bottom of the Facebook login page I was able to find several links dealing with abuse, impostor accounts, etc. Of those, a few pertain to reporting when the reporter does not have a Facebook account of their own. There was also an entry that mentioned that a confirmation email for a new account is sent to, and has to be accepted/confirmed from the registered address before an account would be established.

    You can try the form to report an impostor account at: http://www.facebook.com/help/contact.php?s...mpostor_profile

    ...or choose another help category there as needed. I wasn't aware of any external user email system when I last used the site. There may not be a normal abuse reporting address, as the only email sent should be system generated. Good luck.

  17. Based on just two observations, including mine, it looks like anything submitted in the downtime may be lost.
    Not completely. I received a notice of a report ready to submit from that time frame (now 30 hours old) about two hours ago.

    Tracking URL:

    From Report History list:

    Submitted: Friday, August 20, 2010 12:29:23 -0700

    From header info within the message body of 'accepted for processing' email, received 08/20/2010 12:29 PDT:

    Received: from
    -smtp10.soma.ironport.com (
    -smtp10.soma.ironport.com [])

    by prod-
    -app2.soma.ironport.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03784BD4FDA

    for <x>; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:26:05 -0700 (PDT)


    Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:15:46 -0700

    Original spam received: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:29:48 -0700

    After approx. four hours without any system response to forwarded reports, I manually submitted the previously forwarded messages using the form on the SpamCop site. I had expected to start seeing all the duplicated automatic reports show up (to be canceled) late yesterday, but it didn't happen. However, while writing the above, more backlogged reports have turned up:

    Tracking URLs:

    http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z4405276156z8...c54e43c807ffecz (now 34 hours old)

    Originally submitted per 'accepted' email header: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:38:24 -0700 (PDT)

    http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z4405323997zb...8fc1314c988ebdz (now 25 hours old)

    Originally submitted per 'accepted' email header: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT)

    Hopefully that is the end of it for now. :blink:

  18. I forwarded two spam messages shortly after 01:00 -0700/PST, and then found out the system was down for maintenance when I went to the site to submit the reports. Email 'ready' notices were received a little over an hour later, and I was able submit both reports at that time.

    Three additional spam messages were forwarded at 04:41, 05:49 and 08:15 (all PST), but so far none of those has shown up as ready to submit on the website, nor any 'ready' email notices received.

    The SpamCop Server Status/Statistics graph shows that activity resumed at 05:30 EST and was somewhat busy for the first two hours, and then dropped to a lower level after 08:00 EST.

    Is there still a backlog of unprocessed submissions, or is there some new problem now? :unsure:

  19. Most free Email services do not use the SCBL (don't know about Windows Live Email) so you may want to consider before you spend too long trying to get reporting working for you.
    It sounds like you are referring to Window Liveâ„¢ Hotmail (the free web-based email system) rather than Windows Live Mail (the local email client). Windows Live Mail is the successor to Outlook Express, and works with various email systems using POP3/SMTP, IMAP, News Groups, etc. The OP mentioned Windows Live Mail, but now it remains to be seen if he really meant WLM or Hotmail.
  20. I have been trying to configure SpamCop


    but not Windows Live Mail, even under the Microsoft section. The automatic system won't register me without returning the entire email including all header but how do I get the headers?


    Windows Live Mail has some similarities to Outlook Express.


    To forward an open message with the full headers intact, click 'Actions' on the task bar and select 'Forward as attachment' from the drop down list.

    To forward an unopened message directly from the Inbox list (or another folder) with the full headers intact, right click on the intended message and select 'Forward as attachment' from the context menu.


    To view the full headers of an open message, click 'File' on the task bar and select 'Properties' from the drop down list, and then the 'Details' tab. To see the entire message source, click the 'Message Source' button near the bottom of the Details tab.

    To view the full headers of an unopened message directly from the Inbox list (or another folder), right click on the intended message and select 'Properties' from the context menu, and then the 'Details' tab. To see the entire message source, click the 'Message Source' button near the bottom of the Details tab.

    I hope one of the variations above helps your current situation. If not, just ask more questions.

  21. turkon.com' post='76106' date='Jul 15 2010, 01:33 AM'] my domain spamcop databases,

    how can i remove , im waiting help pls.

    my ip

    Thank You


    From the top of the forum section where you posted:

    This is a SpamCop.net FAQ Development/Support area

    Please do NOT post any requests for help in this forum. Please post all questions in the appropriate Help Forum. This forum is reserved for the development of the SpamCop FAQ (here) and is open to all who wish to contribute to building a better FAQ. Suggestions for improvements are welcome as well as pointing out areas that are unclear or you are unable to understand as we can use those comments to improve the current FAQ (here).

  22. Does anyone ever notice this value change?
    Yes, it does change over time. My average just went down to 5 hours, after being at 6 for several months.

    It took more than 9 months after I started using SpamCop for the average to get down to 6, but it seemed to decrease quicker after I stopped reporting spam that was over 24 hours old and reporting more often during the day, rather than just once a day. My average increased once or twice when I was away for a few days, and had reported all the backlogged spam (up to 48 hours old) upon returning.

  23. And I open my inbox this morning, and got a double reply from my manual report to abuse[at]att.net


    Please note that we can only take action on reports that implicate the AT&T network as a source of abuse.

    As we are unable to take any action on reports not involving AT&T's network, we recommend that you send

    those reports directly to the abuse address of the originating domain or service provider. You can identify

    the originator by reading the expanded e-mail headers. If you need help with reading headers, visit the




    AT&T Internet Services Security Center

    I have been seeing the same double auto-responses from AT&T for at least the last two months. One time

    in late May I received 12 auto-responses to a single abuse submission. :huh:

    It seems a bit odd that the message still references SpamCop even though they aren't receiving SpamCop

    reports, and don't seem to have noticed, or maybe they just don't care. :rolleyes:

  24. Eircom.net has been devnulled for quite some time. What was the reason for this? Any clues?

    I'd be interested to know the actual reason too.

    I thought that it may be per the request of eircom.net themselves. Months ago, after trying to send them a manual report, I received a reply(rejection) message which referenced their own reporting form at http://support[dot]eircom[dot]net/abuse/

    Now if I see a SpamCop parse result with "Using abuse#eircom.ie[at]devnull.spamcop.net for statistical tracking.", I also submit a direct report on eircom.net's own form. I have received a positive follow-up response from them each time.

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