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Is the Spamcop filtering system breaking down? I am suddenly and steadily getting more and more pharma spam in my inbox. It is as though SpamAssassin broke. The spam is VERY obvious and yet gets scored 1.0 to 2.0 consistently. Is anyone else seeing this? I am talking dozens a day or more... It is getting hard to tell what is real email.

David

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Is the Spamcop filtering system breaking down? I am suddenly and steadily getting more and more pharma spam in my inbox. It is as though SpamAssassin broke. The spam is VERY obvious and yet gets scored 1.0 to 2.0 consistently. Is anyone else seeing this? I am talking dozens a day or more... It is getting hard to tell what is real email.
Hi David, yes there are complaints from time to time. The general consensus is you need to use greylisting these days (see the top-most pinned item this forum). Sometimes there are reasons for the 'obvious' spam getting through. If you want some opinions, post a tracking URL of an example.
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Hi David, yes there are complaints from time to time. The general consensus is you need to use greylisting these days (see the top-most pinned item this forum). Sometimes there are reasons for the 'obvious' spam getting through. If you want some opinions, post a tracking URL of an example.

Hmm, doesn't seem like that will help: I POP the mail from another ISP and the bulk of the offensive spam is via that source...

I will post some examples. I have only been quick reporting most of it. Will I have to manually report or would posting the headers suffice?

David

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...I will post some examples. I have only been quick reporting most of it. Will I have to manually report or would posting the headers suffice?
I should think a set of headers might be enough for those familiar with the mail system to mull over in the first instance (hoping some turn up to have a look when you post it). You might like to mention just what filters you are using - everything I should think.
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I should think a set of headers might be enough for those familiar with the mail system to mull over in the first instance (hoping some turn up to have a look when you post it). You might like to mention just what filters you are using - everything I should think.

I have ALL filters on as far as I know!

Here are some examples:

Return-Path: <robisonvx[at]hpj.co.uk>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ob1db[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 17779 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2010 19:32:43 -0000

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on blade5

X-spam-Level:

X-spam-Status: hits=0.0 tests=DRUGS_SLEEP,STOX_REPLY_TYPE version=3.2.4

Received: from unknown (192.168.1.88)

by blade5.cesmail.net with QMQP; 11 Apr 2010 19:32:43 -0000

Received: from smarth-osier.atl.sa.earthlink.net (207.69.195.100)

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id 1O12te-0006UP-00

for ob1db[at]spamcop.net; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:32:42 -0400

X-ELNK-Loop: ob1db[at]earthlink.net

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by mx-casero.atl.sa.earthlink.net (EarthLink SMTP Server) with SMTP id 1o12Tr7rn3Nl34m0; Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:32:29 -0400 (EDT)

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Message-ID: <000701cad9ad$755932b0$ae78fbb2[at]hpj.co.uk>

Reply-To: "Cruz Robison" <robisonvx[at]hpj.co.uk>

From: "Cruz Robison" <robisonvx[at]hpj.co.uk>

To: <ob1db[at]earthlink.net>,

<obobooks[at]earthlink.net>,

<ocwalls[at]earthlink.net>

Subject: Having trouble falling asleep? Get ambien

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:30:35 -0500

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X-ELNK-Received-Info: spv=1;

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X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=00; sbw=000;

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.100 207.69.195.34 86.173.110.55

Return-Path: <chaskins_ct[at]e.kth.se>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ob1db[at]spamcop.net

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Message-ID: <000701cad9ac$e6704480$ae796c72[at]e.kth.se>

Reply-To: "Carmen Haskins" <chaskins_ct[at]e.kth.se>

From: "Carmen Haskins" <chaskins_ct[at]e.kth.se>

To: <ob1db[at]earthlink.net>,

<objen[at]earthlink.net>

Subject: Have Great Long Spicy Nights in Bed!

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:26:35 -0500

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X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.97 207.69.195.177 178.124.146.74

Return-Path: <t.rosahs[at]parnet.fi>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ob1db[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 6821 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2010 19:25:02 -0000

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on filter8

X-spam-Level: ***

X-spam-Status: hits=3.6 tests=DIET_1,DRUGS_ERECTILE,FS_WEIGHT_LOSS,

SARE_OBFU_HYDROCODONE,STOX_REPLY_TYPE version=3.2.4

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Message-ID: <000701cad9ac$9be6ffd0$ae79aeda[at]parnet.fi>

Reply-To: "Terrance L. Rosa" <t.rosahs[at]parnet.fi>

From: "Terrance L. Rosa" <t.rosahs[at]parnet.fi>

To: <ob1db[at]earthlink.net>,

<ommandala[at]earthlink.net>

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:24:30 -0500

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X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=00; sbw=000;

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.101 207.69.195.25 186.87.154.133

Return-Path: <pat.h_caldwellne[at]dante.de>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ob1db[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 32457 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2010 19:06:19 -0000

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Message-ID: <000701cad9a8$e37cf1f0$ae78fbba[at]dante.de>

Reply-To: "Pat H. Caldwell" <pat.h_caldwellne[at]dante.de>

From: "Pat H. Caldwell" <pat.h_caldwellne[at]dante.de>

To: <nvbarkerbunch[at]earthlink.net>,

<nspangenburg[at]earthlink.net>,

<ob1db[at]earthlink.net>

Subject: Highly sought after Weightl0sS Rxmed!

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:57:52 -0500

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X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=00; sbw=000;

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.98 207.69.195.33 188.194.76.1

Return-Path: <isaacmadison_ve[at]bowe.no>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ob1db[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 3965 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2010 18:24:01 -0000

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Reply-To: "Isaac Madison" <isaacmadison_ve[at]bowe.no>

From: "Isaac Madison" <isaacmadison_ve[at]bowe.no>

To: <ob1db[at]earthlink.net>,

<njpsunshine[at]earthlink.net>,

<obharris[at]earthlink.net>

Subject: Wanna get hot and sweaty from amazing bedroom fun?

Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:22:02 -0500

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X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.98 207.69.195.23 83.185.34.103

Return-Path: <wanda.dobsonti[at]teletekno.fi>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-ob1db[at]spamcop.net

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To: <papendickr[at]earthlink.net>,

<ob1db[at]earthlink.net>

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Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:01:19 -0500

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X-ELNK-Info: sbv=0; sbrc=.0; sbf=00; sbw=000;

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.98 207.69.195.33 94.233.220.133

Hits score as low as 0.0? How is this possible?

HELP!

David

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I have ALL filters on as far as I know!

Here are some examples:

X-spam-Level:

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.100 207.69.195.34 86.173.110.55

X-spam-Level:

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.97 207.69.195.177 178.124.146.74

X-spam-Level: ***

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.101 207.69.195.25 186.87.154.133

X-spam-Level:

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.98 207.69.195.33 188.194.76.1

X-spam-Level: *

X-SpamCop-Checked: 207.69.195.98 207.69.195.33 94.233.220.133

Hits score as low as 0.0? How is this possible?

HELP!

David

Bit sus?

When reporting refresh the "cache" for source IP in "Full reporting" (if you can, gets a bit hard when popping email from another email account, forwarding is a bit better)

Check the "Dot"

Show Technical Details during reporting

Simple output

Show technical data

Make sure "mail hosts" are set correctly

This re-checks if abuse address is current (used to be SpamCop would auto recheck/refresh after a time?) Now it don't? (I refreshed the cache on last checked IP's which now will go to latest abuse address. You may wish to resubmit your spam that went nowhere)

Most/all of the email source IP abuse desks seem reputable and will act on reports closing spammer use, also perhaps informing police

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I have ALL filters on as far as I know!

Why does that sound like you have not checked?

Here are some examples:

You have most certainly been around the SpamCop Parsing & Reposrting System long enough to know about Tracking URLs. Please use them. ctual details available, without the format mangling involved with the cut/paste/display issues involved on this display screen.

Oh yeah, the e-mail addresses would also be munged. However, now that they've been exposed here, what are the odds that you have added your earthlink address to your SpamCop.net e-mail account's whitelist?

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Why does that sound like you have not checked?

You have most certainly been around the SpamCop Parsing & Reposrting System long enough to know about Tracking URLs. Please use them. ctual details available, without the format mangling involved with the cut/paste/display issues involved on this display screen.

Oh yeah, the e-mail addresses would also be munged. However, now that they've been exposed here, what are the odds that you have added your earthlink address to your SpamCop.net e-mail account's whitelist?

I will post some trackers. I only posted headers because someone else said it should be enough...

I have ALL filters active, SA set to 4, my earthlink is not whitelisted...

David

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I will post some trackers. I only posted headers because someone else said it should be enough...
Yeah, sorry David, my fault - I should have made it plainer I meant ONE header just to get things running in case anything was immediately obvious and because you don't routinely have full reports to show. As petzl said, a few of those trackers are what's being asked for now and 'full technical data' turned on will allow you to see whatever is discussed coming out of that.
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Yeah, sorry David, my fault - I should have made it plainer I meant ONE header just to get things running in case anything was immediately obvious and because you don't routinely have full reports to show. As petzl said, a few of those trackers are what's being asked for now and 'full technical data' turned on will allow you to see whatever is discussed coming out of that.

Apology accepted! Something is CLEARLY breaking. I got 43 spams to 12 emails in my inbox this AM!!!! This is getting absurd...

I will create some detailed trackers later today.

David

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snap/ I got 43 spams to 12 emails in my inbox this AM!!!! This is getting absurd...

That doesn't sound like a lot to me.. I typically get 200-500spam for every good e-mail and I filter aggressively including grey listing.. Not only that ...as of late, an overwhelming majority of unfiltered spam I get has porn sounding one liners with no spaces and does not seem to sell anything...at least not obviously so (and I am not going to check)... So consider yourself fortunate... As everything else in life it is all relative...

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That doesn't sound like a lot to me.. I typically get 200-500spam for every good e-mail and I filter aggressively including grey listing.. Not only that ...as of late, an overwhelming majority of unfiltered spam I get has porn sounding one liners with no spaces and does not seem to sell anything...at least not obviously so (and I am not going to check)... So consider yourself fortunate... As everything else in life it is all relative...

That wasn't counting the 175 spams in held mail. I meant that many got through to my inbox, all obvious pharma 1 liners. I usually get 1-3 a day like that, already nearly 100 in the inbox today...

Some samples as requested:

http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z3904339138z6...f27d923fc67cfaz

http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z3904345172ze...78af73e8c97309z

http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z3904346825z1...8723a3e2e0d56az

I hope these help figure this out.

David

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nearly 100 in the inbox today...

Some samples as requested:

http://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z3904339138z6...f27d923fc67cfaz

I hope these help figure this out.

David

The problem is that the spam reports are going to wrong source

after refreshing cache it will now send to

abuse[at]ip.telmexchile.cl

instead report went to

abuse[at]seabone.net

abuse[at]chilesat.net

postmaster[at]chilesat.net

netadmin[at]chilesat.net

Now I refreshed "cache" it is going to latest listed abuse address

abuse[at]ip.telmexchile.cl

SpamCop did this (periodically) automatically now it doesn't?

try it to see.

[Edit - quote amended for fidelity - "0" changed to "nearly 100"]

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