Farelf Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 iinet.net.au (about to be) added to the list. Not a deliberate block but they apparently block outgoing using one or both of the same (IronPort & BrightMail) filters that are used by default for incoming mail. Anything leaking through the filters should leak back out again when an attempt is made to report to SC but the filter rules are evidently updated frequently or incoming and outgoing are not necessarily synchronised but anyway the longer the interval between receipt and report the less likely it is for reporting to succeed and sometimes it just doesn't get through, no matter how short the gap. No NDNs are received, stuff just never arrives at SC or anywhere else. I have seen it denied (by users) in Whirlpool that there are outgoing iinet filters per se but the proof of the pudding ... plus I have had it confirmed in email and 'phone discussions with iinet support staff at several levels. Batching as opposed to single submissions makes no difference, copying in iinet staff addresses (suggested by support) doesn't work, even removing the headers (a test) doesn't work - though the IronPort filter would almost certainly include reputation scoring so presumably content filtering is part of the deal as well. <vent>Australian providers are required to do certain things about spam: ... email service providers will address the sources of spam within their own networks, including actual spammers, misconfigured customer email servers and the virus-infected computers used to spread spam (known as â€˜zombiesâ€™).Pointing out to iinet that sweeping it under the carpet is possibly not meeting the spirit of the requirement (they should be enforcing their "CRA" - which is what they have instead of AUP/TOS) and even less so is interfering with those who are trying to do something a little more pro-active have thus far been countered with simulated incomprehension. Indeed, why should they do otherwise? 99.9% of their customers are more than happy with the whole deal (including competitive pricing) and iinet's competitors are, assuredly, doing just the same (and the share/stock holders are, no doubt, delirious with joy). Needless to say my request to escalate the matter to the "product improvement" team have been met with blank silence.</vent> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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