Outernaut Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) On a busy email address, spam comes in but occasionally with older dates/times. It's sometimes rejected by SC due to it's age. This is a example: https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6706167000zcd603f42bf470b11f07d5489c8829d4dz (rejected saying it was to large (not! Rejected because it appears old?) Today is March 14, 2021. There are several emails dating back to March 10, 2021 and the spam showing the date of March 10, 2021 was not delivered until today. The spam seems to have been backdated or held until today, but with March 10 date. How is this even possible? TIA ~o~ Edited March 14, 2021 by Outernaut tipo :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Outernaut said: This is a example: https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6706167000zcd603f42bf470b11f07d5489c8829d4dz (rejected saying it was to large (not! Rejected because it appears old?) Hmmm, the example says it is only 5 hours old and came in on 14 Mar 2021. I tried refreshing a couple of times. I wonder if it says it is old when you first go to report it? Tracking message source: 99.79.57.23: Routing details for 99.79.57.23 [refresh/show] Cached whois for 99.79.57.23 : abuse@amazonaws.com Using abuse net on abuse@amazonaws.com abuse net amazonaws.com = abuse@amazonaws.com Using best contacts abuse@amazonaws.com Reports disabled for abuse@amazonaws.com Using abuse#amazonaws.com@devnull.spamcop.net for statistical tracking. Message is 5 hours old How an email might possibly be old is for instance, the 10.0.153.220 server could have held it internally for a few days. SpamCop goes off the date on the Received line where it picks up the spammers IP. This means if your ISP hold an email for four days, SpamCop would call it old, even though it may have just barely arrived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outernaut Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, gnarlymarley said: Hmmm, the example says it is only 5 hours old and came in on 14 Mar 2021. I tried refreshing a couple of times. I wonder if it says it is old when you first go to report it? Tracking message source: 99.79.57.23: Routing details for 99.79.57.23 [refresh/show] Cached whois for 99.79.57.23 : abuse@amazonaws.com Using abuse net on abuse@amazonaws.com abuse net amazonaws.com = abuse@amazonaws.com Using best contacts abuse@amazonaws.com Reports disabled for abuse@amazonaws.com Using abuse#amazonaws.com@devnull.spamcop.net for statistical tracking. Message is 5 hours old How an email might possibly be old is for instance, the 10.0.153.220 server could have held it internally for a few days. SpamCop goes off the date on the Received line where it picks up the spammers IP. This means if your ISP hold an email for four days, SpamCop would call it old, even though it may have just barely arrived. Thanks, I understand - I think My email client (Thunderbird) shows the spam date being March 10 and the garbage comes in after March 14 (today). My emails including the trash from scumbags is listed by most recent. Tomorrow, I know I will see several new legit email, and some unread (spam) will have day-before-yesterdays date. Let's blame the email client If I understand the Spamcop announcement (News: (Last Modified: 3/11/2021, 12:51:03 PM -0800) new announcement at Spamcop.net > login > Reporting GUI is abandoning us, just a week after my ISP threw customers into the cesspool by dropping their use of SBLs and telling customers to start using the webmail GUI to create filters, ISPs not being allowed. It is a very sad day. R.I.P. Internet. I am addressing this in a separate Topic. ~o~ p.s. If I don't get to say so before we are blocked from adding spammers, my sincere thanks to you and all the others here that volunteer your time, experience, and patience to help everyone battle the festering sores of the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Outernaut said: This is a example: https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6706167000zcd603f42bf470b11f07d5489c8829d4dz (rejected saying it was to large (not! Rejected because it appears old?) I went back and looked at this example and I do see why your email client has an old date. So the email client might be displaying an old date, but the spammer has added their old date. Stuff like this is all reportable, but maybe the spammer is banking your ISP has an issue and you don't report all the spam. Received: by cmsmtp; Sun, 14 Mar 2021 14:02:22 -0600 Date added by spammer: Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:42:49 +0100 P.S. Thank you for your help too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outernaut Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 @gnarlymarley I just received the following spam, posted it via the report spam box. It is dated Mar 10, as are all spam from our lover at amazonaws. The reference is: https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6706263625z7a716025061c9bf82331039e2ea81dcfz Are you able to tell who/ISP is delaying it? Or a link to how to read that stuff. TIA ~o~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnarlymarley Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Outernaut said: The reference is: https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6706263625z7a716025061c9bf82331039e2ea81dcfz It looks like your spammer has an old date in their spam but the email is being sent today. Your ISP received: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:43:46 -0600 Spammer trick Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:42:49 +0100 Seems the spammer is trying to trick you into thinking it is old, when it is new. Looking at the Received headers, I don't understand why the spammer would do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pino Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 3/16/2021 at 3:56 AM, gnarlymarley said: It looks like your spammer has an old date in their spam but the email is being sent today. Your ISP received: Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:43:46 -0600 Spammer trick Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2021 02:42:49 +0100 Seems the spammer is trying to trick you into thinking it is old, when it is new. Looking at the Received headers, I don't understand why the spammer would do this. because even spammers know that spamcop discards old emails, so they don't allow you to report spam. it also happens to me even dated 2020 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pino Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 orry, this email is too old to file a spam report. You must report spam within 2 days of receipt. This mail was received on Sat, 19 Dec 2020 06:12:22 -0800 https://storage.googleapis.com/kor31/link.html#c20244KBsTY16201171pSDd22OoN27162ZAPm1326https://storage.googleapis.com/kor31/link.html#u20244Cvmsi16201171ytTU22IfR27162hZoY1326 If reported today, reports would be sent to: Re: 195.154.56.105 (Administrator of IP block - statistics only)abuse@online.net Re: https://storage.googleapis.com/kor31/link.html#... (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)google-abuse-bounces-reports@devnull.spamcop.net Re: https://storage.googleapis.com/kor31/link.html#... (Administrator of network hosting website referenced in spam)google-abuse-bounces-reports@devnull.spamcop.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Pino said: 195.154.56.105 (Administrator of IP block - statistics only) Try to include a SpamCop Tracking URL (at top of page before you submit) Examplehttps://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6726676696zd1456b7bdfeadb265e11568cc64b5a1cz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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