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I have been receiving spam from a group of online pharmacies which all have the same layout, stock graphics, etc. I have complained to each website's customer service forms and called them whenever their is an available customer service numbers. I have seen three phone numbers for several sites with different domains. Each time I call, sure enough, I speak to the same man or woman. Each time they change their name and pretend not to know who I am. I spell out my email address everytime and they just say that they will pass it on to their "management". I complain and ask for a business address but never get one. They say that they do not own the sites advertised in the emails and that they just handle the customer service. They refuse to give me any other information and pretend not to know who I am everytime I call. I have only just started using spamcop and it looks like most of their servers are in other countries. I am really at the end of my rope. I feel like they are personally harassing me at this point because at times I will get an email just after I call or use their customer service form. Any advice is appreciated. The following list is all the domain names that I have received emails for in the past couple of months. This has been going on for about a year, but I have tried to document in the last month. Anyway, try giving these people a call. The same man and woman will answer. They will pretend to be someone else if you call a couple of times. You can try to get an business address and they just say no in an infuriating courteous way. Ask them about HIPAA regulations governing privacy for healthcare patient data like emails and addresses and they refer you to their websites which attest privacy but the HIPAA regulation requires a business address and a Privacy Officer and complaint procedures. These sites never abide these HIPAA regulations but pretend to maintain privacy per their online policy. So apart from spamming people, they are violating HIPAA too.

htt p://www.pillforce8.c om (customer service number: 1-800-539-9122)

ht tp://www.rxreload5.co m (customer service number: 1-800-539-9122)

http ://www.rxreload4.c om (customer service number: 1-800-539-9122)

h ttp://www.rxreload2.co m (customer service number: 1-800-539-9122)

htt p://www.pillgap5.co m (customer service number: 1-800-539-9122)

h ttp://www.pillgap9.co m (customer service number: 1-800-539-9122)

<http://www.yourrxman.com> (customer service number: (309)273-2150)

<http://chekriterefillsrx.com> (customer service number: (309)273-2150)

<http://bikewaycycle.com> (customer service number: (309)273-2150)

<http://www.1lkjh432ljh.com/> (customer service number: (309)273-2150)

h ttp://www.rxrest10.co m/ (customer service number: 1.866.640.2121)

<http://www.refillextra.com>

<http://www.refillkey.com/>

<http://refilldeal.com>

<http://www.refilldeals.com>

<http://refilleasy.com>

<http://www.refillform.com/>

<http://expressrefills.com/>

<http://www.webrefiller.com/>

<http://refillmagic.com/>

<http://pillcause.com/>

<http://refillinternet.com/>

<http://www.refillplace.com/>

<http://www.RefillSpot.com>

<http://pillturn.com/>

<http://linkpills.com/>

<http://refillday.com>

<http://www.refillspecial.com>

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...Any advice is appreciated. ...
Sounds like they are "reportable" on several fronts. There are some resources and contacts listed at http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2238#OIH - the top bunch in that list is for reporting to relevant anti-spam agencies, etc. If they don't provide a business address in the email they are are in breach of the CAN spam Act, IIUC (not to mention the lack of an effective unsubscribe facility). Do you report through SC? You might post a tracking URL to one of your reports if so.

I'm going to go through your post and unlink those URLs - they may be picked up by search engines, it sounds like they do a good enough job of promoting themselves without "our" assistance.

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post a tracking URL

Please explain what a tracking URL is or forward url.

Thanks, I got yet another email this morning and every time it feels like what I imagine rape must be like. This site is great support for essentially rape victims. This has gotten personal between these spammers and me and I just don't know what to do...

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This has gotten personal between these spammers and me and I just don't know what to do...

This is NOT personal for them, it is simply business as usual. You have probably added to your problem by giving them a confirmed address they can now sell to make more money and you will receive more spam form the people who buy that list.

Please do not ever unsubscribe to ANYTHING that you did not originally subscribe to.

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Please explain what a tracking URL is or forward url.

Thanks, I got yet another email this morning and every time it feels like what I imagine rape must be like. This site is great support for essentially rape victims. This has gotten personal between these spammers and me and I just don't know what to do...

You have been complaining to the wrong people, i.e. the spammers directly!

A better way to deal with this stuff would be:

- Report the mails to Spamcop

and/or

- Find out who is sending the mails and who is hosting the "pharmacy" site

- Send complaints to the abuse addresses of both ISPs

and/or

- File complaints with your state board of pharmacy and the NABP

http://www.nabp.net/vipps/consumer/report.asp

http://www.nabp.net/whoweare/boards.asp

Good luck,

A. Friend

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I found a bill passed by Feinstein regarding online pharmacy practices. It is very interested to see the issues targeted by the bill:

`Internet Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act' or the `Ryan Haight Act'

http://www.theorator.com/bills109/s399.html

- File complaints with your state board of pharmacy and the NABP

http://www.nabp.net/vipps/consumer/report.asp

http://www.nabp.net/whoweare/boards.asp

I made a mistake by letting them know that I have a valid address by complaining, I know, but if you are a reasonable law-abiding consumer, it is easy to make that mistake...

I am reporting to NABP now. Thanks, Friend.

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Please explain what a tracking URL is or forward url....
If you process spam through the SC parser (http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...opic=2238#SCPRS) it is the reference to the parse (and to the spam message). http://forum.spamcop.net/forums/index.php?...topic=4473#TURL

It is useful to show exactly what type of spam you are getting and to resolve any questions on SC reports to the ISPs and other parties who have the capability to stop the spam and/or the hosting of bogus websites.

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I found a bill passed by Feinstein regarding online pharmacy practices. It is very interested to see the issues targeted by the bill:

`Internet Pharmacy Consumer Protection Act' or the `Ryan Haight Act'

The issue is not a matter of legality. This type of spam has been illegal under numerous laws in most countries since they started. The issue is a matter of enforcement. Very few law enforcement agencies have the know-how and resources to tackle spam. We don't really need more anti-spam laws at this point, as they simply don't do any good, what we need is effective enforcement of the ones that already exist.

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The issue is not a matter of legality. The issue is a matter of enforcement. ...what we need is effective enforcement of the ones that already exist.

Here, here! I second that motion.

Or....

a million people do exactly what the spam requests...

click the link ...

all at the SAME time.

Bingo. spam site gone... probably taking a bunch of the

others down the tubes with it...

along with one angry ISP, who just might be more careful

who they host.

Well, maybe not.

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<snip>

a million people do exactly what the spam requests...

click the link ...

all at the SAME time.

Bingo. spam site gone... probably taking a bunch of the

others down the tubes with it...

<snip>

...And a boatload of innocent victims of what amounts to a DoS attach against the internet. Please, NO!
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...And a boatload of innocent victims of what amounts to a DoS attach against the internet. Please, NO!

But wait! How can that be?

If the spammer sends 25 million spams which say "Click Here"

A million people click the link when they check their email at 8 am EST...

Does not fit the definition of DoS?

Not prosecutable in court.

The million people are simply doing what the email requested.

AND... who might become 'victims' ?

They're certainly not vicitms if they rely on a spam-friendly ISP... everyone has a choice.

This would be a strong 'learning experience' telling them to move to a more reputable ISP.

I dare say that if such an (unplausable) event should take place, you would not get a single complaint. Who would they complain to ?

And what would they say?

"Hello, Police: someone just knocked out my illegal phishing site."

or

"Judge, these people are preventing me from selling illegal drugs into the U.S. from my non tax-paying business off shore -- after I sent 25-million unsolicited emails in bulk -- to addresses I harvested off the internet."

I would like to see that one in court.

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A million people click the link when they check their email at 8 am EST...

Does not fit the definition of DoS?

Not prosecutable in court.

...I'm not talking legality here. There are quite a number of things that are legal in varying jurisdictions that are still wrong.
The million people are simply doing what the email requested.
...And that makes it right ... how?
AND... who might become 'victims' ?
...Everyone who uses the internet who is slowed or stopped due to all the responses to the spam you are advocating.
They're certainly not vicitms if they rely on a spam-friendly

ISP... everyone has a choice.

<snip>

...Not everyone. Besides, I'm not talking about any specific ISP, I'm talking about the whole internet. Perhaps not the normative use of the term DoS but effectively the same thing but on a larger scale.
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