jschatz Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I consider SpamCop an incredibly valuable resource and have been a paid user for many years. Currently, however, virtually all of my spam reports result in either: -The (bondedsender) error resulting in no report being sent (described in another currently active forum thread) -Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source Mailhost: Please correct this situation - register every email address where you receive spam No source IP address found, cannot proceed. The latter is occurring despite multiple reconfigurations of my mail host for an account I have been reporting spam from for years without issue. I am concerned that spammers are basically finding ways to thwart spamcop, and steps are not being taken to counter these efforts. Is there help someone can provide about fixing these issues or, at least, provide encouragement that steps will be taking to address them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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emanmb Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 16 hours ago, jschatz said: I consider SpamCop an incredibly valuable resource and have been a paid user for many years. Currently, however, virtually all of my spam reports result in either: -The (bondedsender) error resulting in no report being sent (described in another currently active forum thread) -Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source Mailhost: Please correct this situation - register every email address where you receive spam No source IP address found, cannot proceed. The latter is occurring despite multiple reconfigurations of my mail host for an account I have been reporting spam from for years without issue. I am concerned that spammers are basically finding ways to thwart spamcop, and steps are not being taken to counter these efforts. Is there help someone can provide about fixing these issues or, at least, provide encouragement that steps will be taking to address them? No bondedsender error. (Knocks on wood) but the "Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source" accounts for 50%-ish of my reports. If I'm annoyed enough by the spam, I'll parse the hostname and fwd to them directly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschatz Posted July 24 Author Share Posted July 24 I've been trying various email header analyzers also but with mixed success indentifying actual sources. I hope one of the internet's most important self-policing tools is not in an irrerversible decline. I don't have technical expertise I can contribute, but is there anything else we in the community can do to help work toward solutions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 Also getting a significant percentage of these messages when reporting spam. That or "bondedsender". I am including reporting links here for the techies to parse through. I hope this helps! https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904932499z7088cff01b036c39c92069dd9dbaf239z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904671176z80d9e394bed42b3d33b71ed9c12a2b12z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904671177z6d0adf30da5709b09f29eb8d51157d70z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904657230z8ca2c85e782664d522f59365f862b86dz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904317081zeed11519e572dfb850d093200d6bb73ez I hope a fix can be found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 19 hours ago, crp5591 said: Also getting a significant percentage of these messages when reporting spam. That or "bondedsender". I am including reporting links here for the techies to parse through. I hope this helps! https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904932499z7088cff01b036c39c92069dd9dbaf239z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904671176z80d9e394bed42b3d33b71ed9c12a2b12z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904671177z6d0adf30da5709b09f29eb8d51157d70z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904657230z8ca2c85e782664d522f59365f862b86dz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904317081zeed11519e572dfb850d093200d6bb73ez I hope a fix can be found. Here are more links from today that lead to this error (and Bondedsender) https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904995389zeff97f434becf42a9ae32dc193e8c451z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904995390z6774f14119c60dde7550a7d72ea1c3b2z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6904995391z92fe0e9e0bb345fa30ae29f33684823bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 And 6 more that all lead to the "Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source" , "No source IP address found, cannot proceed." Errors. At this point, every spam that comes in that gets reported yields this error. Spamcop is in effect, no longer working. Any ideas or suggestions? https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059088zdb6aa65444d3ca82917f56131e268d32z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059089z935f8078d126f4c70295e7a1fbc61c1bz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059090zef64ac1d8d8da8e52129d3e4cb0bd091z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059091za9ea9d7ec75cd0ac1c803901435b8cdez https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059092zfcce6f838981bc4705153e45a1dfed16z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059093zdcc42c4ce71e80c1bbf4d7315d6784c5z Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 7 hours ago, crp5591 said: And 6 more that all lead to the "Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source" , "No source IP address found, cannot proceed." Errors. At this point, every spam that comes in that gets reported yields this error. Spamcop is in effect, no longer working. Any ideas or suggestions? https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059088zdb6aa65444d3ca82917f56131e268d32z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059089z935f8078d126f4c70295e7a1fbc61c1bz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059090zef64ac1d8d8da8e52129d3e4cb0bd091z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059091za9ea9d7ec75cd0ac1c803901435b8cdez https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059092zfcce6f838981bc4705153e45a1dfed16z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059093zdcc42c4ce71e80c1bbf4d7315d6784c5z Thanks!!! You are receiving this on Gmail then fetting headers from Apple mobile phone? 138.199.63.73 is the emailer Gmail got it from go to your webmail page on a computer and get REAL headers rom there mark it as phishing Copy the headers and report it copy and past to your SpamCop reporting page Apple are garbling the headers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeMaster Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 11 hours ago, crp5591 said: And 6 more that all lead to the "Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source" , "No source IP address found, cannot proceed." Errors. At this point, every spam that comes in that gets reported yields this error. Spamcop is in effect, no longer working. Any ideas or suggestions? https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059088zdb6aa65444d3ca82917f56131e268d32z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059089z935f8078d126f4c70295e7a1fbc61c1bz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059090zef64ac1d8d8da8e52129d3e4cb0bd091z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059091za9ea9d7ec75cd0ac1c803901435b8cdez https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059092zfcce6f838981bc4705153e45a1dfed16z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905059093zdcc42c4ce71e80c1bbf4d7315d6784c5z Thanks!!! I use the Outlook Desktop application, and forward all the spam I receive in my various email accounts via that Desktop email software. It works for the majority of the spam I forward to spamcop using my unique reporting address, though like you, I get a couple each day that result in the what you are seeing above. I found that if I submit them manually, i.e. copy and paste the information into the header and body submission boxes on the Spamcop website, they go through fine that way, and I can report them. Don't know why there are issue with some and not others, as you would think that Outlook Desktop is forwarding them properly since the majority of mine go through fine and allow reporting. Perhaps someone with more knowledge than me can chime in. I'll try to submit some samples the next time it happens, just in case it might help someone with diagnosis of the problem. Edited July 27 by FeMaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 On 7/26/2024 at 7:58 PM, petzl said: You are receiving this on Gmail then fetting headers from Apple mobile phone? 138.199.63.73 is the emailer Gmail got it from go to your webmail page on a computer and get REAL headers rom there mark it as phishing Copy the headers and report it copy and past to your SpamCop reporting page Apple are garbling the headers No, most of these emails are arriving directly to my mac.com email address (maybe a couple to my gmail) and being forwarded to SpamCop as attachments using Mail on a Mac computer. I am not forwarding from an iPhone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petzl Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 7 hours ago, crp5591 said: No, most of these emails are arriving directly to my mac.com email address (maybe a couple to my gmail) and being forwarded to SpamCop as attachments using Mail on a Mac computer. I am not forwarding from an iPhone... You are FOWARDING AS ATTACHMENT NOT JUST FORWARDING.? Not use a Mac or Apple, so out of my field sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 This is due to Apple changing how they receive mail, using .localdomain to boot. I've been building out a mail host record for it but the naming convention is very wide and distributed. I've done a lot of guessing based on patterns, but its still a pita job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 18 hours ago, petzl said: You are FOWARDING AS ATTACHMENT NOT JUST FORWARDING.? Not use a Mac or Apple, so out of my field sorry Yes.. I did state in my earlier reply that I was forwarding as attachments... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 15 hours ago, Richard W said: This is due to Apple changing how they receive mail, using .localdomain to boot. I've been building out a mail host record for it but the naming convention is very wide and distributed. I've done a lot of guessing based on patterns, but its still a pita job Well, I thank you for your efforts! This issue with the "Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source" , "No source IP address found, cannot proceed." is a recent development.. only a few weeks. Your efforts seem to have done some good.. getting fewer of these errors, now most just seem to be the "bonded sender" issue which I know you are working on. More reports if it helps: https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905563598z341c6875ecf499f0b305f9d44d3d6950z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905563599zf6363ed25dbddaa60db64cd98a42fbc8z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905563600za69e64f6478446b7a498f28452da8036z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6905563601z9d5a73f6a5685f962c2c91dd3418739fz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeMaster Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 8/2/2024 at 12:01 PM, crp5591 said: Well, I thank you for your efforts! This issue with the "Mailhost configuration problem, identified internal IP as source" , "No source IP address found, cannot proceed." is a recent development.. only a few weeks. While I'm not on Apple products, I've been dealing with this message, on a number of my spam reports, for probably close to 2 years now. Only seems to happen to SOME of the spam that I get in my old Hotmail account. I only recently found that I can manually submit those (copy headers and body HTML and paste) onto the SpamCop website and get it to parse and report properly that way. It's a PIA for sure and I'd love to know how to get it to work like the rest of my submissions, which are all submitted via forward as attachment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crp5591 Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 On 8/1/2024 at 7:13 PM, Richard W said: This is due to Apple changing how they receive mail, using .localdomain to boot. I've been building out a mail host record for it but the naming convention is very wide and distributed. I've done a lot of guessing based on patterns, but its still a pita job Richard, I will reach out to Apple and see if I can help. It is easy to escalate to their engineers. Will send them the reports so they can see for themselves how their back end changes affect SpamCop.. maybe they will care enough to fix it. In the meantime, here are more reports if it helps: All spam I submit comes out like this regardless of submitting method. Thanks for your efforts! https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906346367ze8744aefc7c82167bc29ca54ed45db5az https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906346368z481ed8f2cbfcc6e2edbdc9955568cf34z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906346369z93a5dea1f58c624a9dabe86b592af755z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906346370z7c6ed23cf6e84e50cf7021c5051bbbf5z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906346371z2d0a58592fec59ea47d8160e6fdac362z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906346373z0395fa054a9cd45ef0a51220c3881ac6z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906316196z5437a4515e981b76ba12ee6692052c0dz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906316197z979cea88bcbf8808b5dfd12b45be0c24z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906293878z424db6f19abc90a9ff5a37f163ea7a4dz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906293879ze58d80b07a7b76410cc69386d063a595z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906290539z14021c4e752d156b025e764f0e273a0fz https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906290540z64a7ba07bfe657237acc26cd0a673914z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906290541z7039b71da50435d3cc2400b75fce2873z https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6906290542z9771675140cad37411d34f5b2fec78d7z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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