Lking Posted September 1 Posted September 1 Or just having your domain on some spammer's list. Last night I received 71 bounce messages from two numbered domains, all in Chinese. Seems that 71 random mailboxes "at my domain" send emails, in Chinese, to mailboxes @163.com and @126.com. Those Postmaster's dumb auto responders rejected "my" email and bounced them. I have not received this level of dumb bounces from China, or elsewhere, in years. Must be new kids on the block or someone found an old CD with list of names to use. Quote
petzl Posted September 2 Posted September 2 9 hours ago, Lking said: Or just having your domain on some spammer's list. Last night I received 71 bounce messages from two numbered domains, all in Chinese. Seems that 71 random mailboxes "at my domain" send emails, in Chinese, to mailboxes @163.com and @126.com. Those Postmaster's dumb auto responders rejected "my" email and bounced them. I have not received this level of dumb bounces from China, or elsewhere, in years. Must be new kids on the block or someone found an old CD with list of names to use. If IP from China who ignore spam reports "Forward as attachment" no comments subject to abuse[AT]12321[DOT]cn Seem effective They do send a autoack back Quote
Lking Posted September 2 Author Posted September 2 By my definition the bounce email itself is not spam. Dumb postmaster, misconfigured mail server, noise on the web, yes. But spam?? JMHO Quote
ninth Posted September 2 Posted September 2 126.com is hosted by chinanet GZ and chinanet is number one in top 10 worst networks hosting the most number of IPs associated with exploiting devices and hosting spam emitting IPs. China is number one worst country hosting IPs associated with exploited devices and botnet C&Cs and spam emitting IPs and malware distribution sites. Quote
Spamnophobic Posted September 2 Posted September 2 8 hours ago, Lking said: By my definition the bounce email itself is not spam. Dumb postmaster, misconfigured mail server, noise on the web, yes. But spam?? JMHO I seem to remember a discussion about this on this forum back in the mists of time, the upshot of which, if I remember correctly was, if you didn't ask for it, then it's spam, so report. I have always been doing this since, although, touch wood, my address hasn't been 'flavour of the month' for quite a while! Quote
Lking Posted September 2 Author Posted September 2 Due to a misconfiguration of my host's mail server, I am unable to use quick reporting. Reporting 'by hand' I pick and choose. Quote
FeMaster Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) On 9/2/2024 at 8:10 AM, Lking said: Due to a misconfiguration of my host's mail server, I am unable to use quick reporting. Reporting 'by hand' I pick and choose. Does it really matter what email you send the reports from? I have 11 email address I use in my Outlook Desktop client, and because of a similar situation with my ISP email addresses, I can't forward spam reports using any of them. A number of years ago I started forwarding all of my spam emails to SpamCop from a single Hotmail address, irregardless of what email the spam was originally sent to. Edited September 7 by FeMaster Quote
petzl Posted September 7 Posted September 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, FeMaster said: Does it really matter what email you send the reports from? I have 11 email address I use in my Outlook Desktop client, and because of a similar situation with my ISP email addresses, I can't forward spam reports using any of them. A number of years ago I started forwarding all of my spam emails to SpamCop from a single Hotmail address, irregardless of what email the spam was originally sent to. Outlook (I believe) separate's headers from spam body meaning SC does not get headers? Send a test spam report to your self to see Edited September 7 by petzl Quote
lisati Posted September 12 Posted September 12 I think I read something somewhere, many years ago when I ran my own email server from home, that the only bounce messages you should normally receive are those generated by your provider's server. Any others are fair game for being considered as spam. Part of the problem is the delayed bounce, where a server accepts an email for delivery and then changes its mind, sending off bounce messages based on forged sender details. There's an article on delayed bounces on the Spamcop help pages. https://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/329.html Quote
ninth Posted September 12 Posted September 12 SC also has a detailed help topic on out of office. Quote
Lking Posted September 12 Author Posted September 12 Thanks all for the pointers. It still boils down to a matter of the time I am willing to commit and towards which servers. Quote
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