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I'm using a new USB email program "The Bat! Voyager"

Before used Outlook Express from Laptop I'm sending via "smtp.cesmail.net"via "port 587"

A couple of times a week I send to 7 colleagues via BCC (to stop viruses catching email addresses)

Since sending via email client "The Bat! Voyager"

I'm getting this response

Your message was successfully delivered to the destination(s)

listed below. If the message was delivered to mailbox you will

receive no further notifications. Otherwise you may still receive

notifications of mail delivery errors from other systems.

The Postfix program

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250 ok:

Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250 ok:

Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via

192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250 ok: Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250 ok:

Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250

ok: Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250

ok: Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250

ok: Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250

ok: Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250 ok:

Message 418383313 accepted

<XXX[at]XXX>: delivery via 192.168.1.105[192.168.1.105]:25: 250 ok:

Message 418383313 accepted

I did have some trouble getting this program to send to multiple addresses (poor help file advice which does just not work)

I ended up by just creating a New address book with the names I wish to post to and found it simple to then put these in the BCC field of any new email

The question is why am I now getting this reply is something not exactly right? Never had this when posting from Outlook Express (Version 6). I do not mind getting this response as it is helpful

MERRY CHRISTMAS ALL

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need more header data to determine just who the 192.168.1.105 really is.

sent a test e-mail using OE6, To: you, BCC: to another of my addresses.

Nothing like your sample stuff seen, so assumedly it's something at your (connection) end.

As above, I don't see in the data you provided as to how to guess as to thether this is something from your network or your ISP ... don't see it as a part of the Horde/IMP thing at JT's end ....

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need more header data to determine just who the 192.168.1.105 really is.

sent a test e-mail using OE6, To: you, BCC: to another of my addresses.

Nothing like your sample stuff seen, so assumedly it's something at your (connection) end.

As above, I don't see in the data you provided as to how to guess as to thether this is something from your network or your ISP ... don't see it as a part of the Horde/IMP thing at JT's end ....

I replied to you and my gmail account via BCC.

This "report" comes about 6 hours after

I do not mind this report but need to know if I'm not doing something proper?

I'm hoping to do away with carrying a Laptop and just take a 4gig USB Pen/hard-drive and use untrusted computers like Internet cafes.

The headers for the "bounce"

Return-Path: <>

Delivered-To: spamcop-net-petzl[at]spamcop.net

Received: (qmail 7832 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2006 00:53:43 -0000

X-spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on blade6

X-spam-Level:

X-spam-Status: hits=-1.4 tests=ALL_TRUSTED version=3.1.1

Received: from unknown (HELO c60.cesmail.net) (192.168.1.105)

by blade6.cesmail.net with SMTP; 25 Dec 2006 00:53:43 -0000

Received: from unknown (HELO relay.cesmail.net) ([192.168.1.81])

by c60.cesmail.net with ESMTP; 24 Dec 2006 19:53:43 -0500

Received: by relay.cesmail.net (Postfix)

id 070DF618F2A; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:53:43 -0500 (EST)

Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 19:53:43 -0500 (EST)

From: MAILER-DAEMON[at]cesmail.net (Mail Delivery System)

Subject: Successful Mail Delivery Report

To: petzl[at]spamcop.net

Auto-Submitted: auto-replied

MIME-Version: 1.0

Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;

boundary="6E600618F25.1167008023/relay.cesmail.net"

Message-Id: <20061225005343.070DF618F2A[at]relay.cesmail.net>

X-SpamCop-Checked: 192.168.1.105 192.168.1.81

X-SpamCop-Disposition: Blacklist

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6 hours to wait to find out .. hmmmmm

I replied, sending several BCC: copies, one to a known dead account at a host that no longer exists, in order to 'force' a failure to see what that brings up. The e-mal itself has already arrived in three of the accounts, have to manually go check a fourth .. and the known-bad address ..??? guess that'll be after the 6 hour wait ....

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I just remembered I did also ask for a "confirm receipt" which I did get from my colleagues?

Would this make a difference?

I did not know a mail server would react to this?

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I just remembered I did also ask for a "confirm receipt" which I did get from my colleagues?

That action is such a nebulous thing on the 'net' .... this is one of those things that showed up in the "office" environment. Fairly easy to do as all 'clients' were using the same system (going back those wonderful main/mini-frame days.) Extending that to a 'corporate' environment, say the WAN level, still pretty easy to handle, as the 'corporation' would generally be using the same hardware/software at all locations.

However, getting out of that environment, you run nto the real-world issues. Not all e-mail servers accept, recognise, pass-on those extra commands / actions / whatever. Even if they do, it's still not an automatic assumption that the recipient allows this action to occur (I don't for example)

My inclusion of a 'dead' address was to try to sort out whther this was an 'actual' receipt message or something that just stated that the e-mail had been 'handed off' to somewhere else. Based on you bringing this up, then it may be that I won't see any reply similar to your query sample, as I didn't ask for a delivery receipt.

In the other hand, I don't recall seeing anything like this in the Horde/IMP FAQ ...???? Courier I can't remember at all, it's been too long since I tried wading through what was available on that bit of code ....

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In the other hand, I don't recall seeing anything like this in the Horde/IMP FAQ ...???? Courier I can't remember at all, it's been too long since I tried wading through what was available on that bit of code ....

Confirmed that by requiring a "read receipt" gets one a "Successful Mail Delivery Report" near instantly

The reason for the six hour wait is because it got held in VER because of a blackisting I had put in (when released may of been six hours later)

Cesmail is a Postfix Program not HORDE?

This is the Postfix program at host relay.cesmail.net.

Your message was successfully delivered to the destination(s)

listed below. If the message was delivered to mailbox you will

receive no further notifications. Otherwise you may still receive

notifications of mail delivery errors from other systems.

The Postfix program

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Cesmail is a Postfix Program not HORDE?

Cesmail is part of the domain name and various server names. Postfix is an MTA (mail transfer agent), while Horde IMP is the webmail application used for spamcop.net and cesmail.net email accounts. So, each has it's function, but postfix and Horde IMP aren't at all equivalent....that's not even an "apples/oranges" comparision, it's more like "apples/chicken."

Links:

http://www.horde.org/imp

http://www.postfix.org

Peace,

DT

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Cesmail is part of the domain name and various server names. Postfix is an MTA (mail transfer agent), while Horde IMP is the webmail application used for spamcop.net and cesmail.net email accounts. So, each has it's function, but postfix and Horde IMP aren't at all equivalent....that's not even an "apples/oranges" comparision, it's more like "apples/chicken."

Thanks David

This is the first time I have ever had a reply receipt from a mail server, I find reply it helpful, just were have problems setting up a 7 person mail list on a USB email client and just wished to make sure all was OK.

It seems it is

Hapy New Year

Petzl (Harry)

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