SpamCop could not find your spam message.....

davidc · April 4, 2004

Hi All,

I've been reporting spam manually for around a year now. Since recently installing a new mail server (FTGate Office 1.20 - HF1339 - www.ftgate.com) I've been able to trap 90% of spam there.

It is possible to configure FTGate to forward these messages elsewhere, so I've set it to automatically send them to my unique submit....[at]spam.spamcop.net address due to the quantities involved - >25 messages in the last 8 hours alone is beyond the realms & reality of manual submission!

I set up the forwarding lastnight. However, when I switched on the computer this morning, they had all bounced back to me, mostly with the error message in the topic title above. Another few had the error message "Message forwarded in html wrapper.".

Basically, my question is, where am I going wrong? I've checked through the FAQ and searched google, but can't find anything obvious. If I have overlooked a vital point that is covered in the FAQ, please direct me to it. :unsure:

Below is a sample returned message. I have replaced my domain / email / IP addy with xxxx for obvious reasons, but the rest of the details are left unchanged.

Many thanks for any advice...

Cheers,

Dave

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SpamCop encountered errors while saving spam for processing:

SpamCop could not find your spam message in this email:

Received: from vmx1.spamcop.net (sc-smtp1.verio.ironport.com [192.168.12.81])

by sc-app3.verio.ironport.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DBA14396

for <submit.xxxxx[at]spam.spamcop.net>; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:12:01 -0800 (PST)

Received: from xxxxx.xxxxx.co.uk (HELO mail.xxxxx.com) (xx.xx.xx.132)

by vmx1.spamcop.net with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2004 22:12:00 -0800

x-filtered: 1

Received: from mail.xxxxx.com by FTGate SmartPop;

Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:12:22 +0100

Received: from h24-86-6-123.vn.shawcable.net (h24-86-6-123.vn.shawcable.net [24.86.6.123])

by imta09.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A30F8A550A

for <xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:11:08 -0800 (PST)

X-Message-Info: JHT+ul/253+xs/M+56/55312124326211

Received: from smtp-wrathful.nitroglycerine.unelili[at]chalky.com ([24.86.6.123]) by br2-b88.unelili[at]chalky.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.7459.7155);

Sun, 04 Apr 2004 06:09:13 -0100

Received: from staircase46.nobelium.unelili[at]chalky.com (deciduous10.unelili[at]chalky.com [24.86.6.123])

by smtp-keyes.blomberg.unelili[at]chalky.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 03TB74XA31HG

for <xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 12:05:13 +0500

X-Message-Info: CSWYQ+%ND_LC_CHAR[1-3]4+ubi+ADQ+09/36701762840643

Received: (qmail 98625 invoked by uid 0); Sun, 04 Apr 2004 12:02:13 +0500

Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:03:13 -0300

Message-Id: <0437074346.52997[at]unelili[at]chalky.com>

From: Joshua Jenkins <unelili[at]chalky.com>

To: Usenetfilter <xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>

Subject: you can drop 10 pounds in 1 week

MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by aquilaresidual 6.5)

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary="--111707388907682"

x-recipient:<xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>

----111707388907682

Content-Type: text/html;

charset="iso-0424-9"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Content-Description: conflagrate van dadaism

<html>

<body>

<table border=3D"1" cellpadding=3D"4" cellspacing=3D"0" style=3D"border-=

collapse: collapse" bordercolor=3D"#111111" width=3D"527" height=3D"17" id=

=3D"AutoNumber1">

<tr>

<img src=3D"http://219.133.31.178/diet/3.gif.php?a=3Dbanner.gif" bor=

der=3D"0">

<font face=3D"Arial" color=3D"#ff0000" size=3D"=

5">3

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the first two weeks - but also improve your heart health.

<a href=3D"http://219.133.31.1=

78/diet">

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</td>

</tr>

</table>

</div>

<a href=3D"http://219.133.31.178/diet/off.htm">NO_THAN=

KYOU</a>

</body>

</html>

----111707388907682--

The email which triggered this auto-response had the following headers:

Received: from vmx1.spamcop.net (sc-smtp1.verio.ironport.com [192.168.12.81])

by sc-app3.verio.ironport.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DBA14396

for <submit.xxxxx[at]spam.spamcop.net>; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:12:01 -0800 (PST)

Received: from xxxxx.xxxxx.co.uk (HELO mail.xxxxx.com) (xx.xx.xx.132)

by vmx1.spamcop.net with ESMTP; 03 Apr 2004 22:12:00 -0800

x-filtered: 1

Received: from mail.xxxxx.com by FTGate SmartPop;

Sun, 04 Apr 2004 07:12:22 +0100

Received: from h24-86-6-123.vn.shawcable.net (h24-86-6-123.vn.shawcable.net [24.86.6.123])

by imta09.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A30F8A550A

for <xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>; Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:11:08 -0800 (PST)

X-Message-Info: JHT+ul/253+xs/M+56/55312124326211

Received: from smtp-wrathful.nitroglycerine.unelili[at]chalky.com ([24.86.6.123]) by br2-b88.unelili[at]chalky.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.7459.7155);

Sun, 04 Apr 2004 06:09:13 -0100

Received: from staircase46.nobelium.unelili[at]chalky.com (deciduous10.unelili[at]chalky.com [24.86.6.123])

by smtp-keyes.blomberg.unelili[at]chalky.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 03TB74XA31HG

for <xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>; Sun, 04 Apr 2004 12:05:13 +0500

X-Message-Info: CSWYQ+%ND_LC_CHAR[1-3]4+ubi+ADQ+09/36701762840643

Received: (qmail 98625 invoked by uid 0); Sun, 04 Apr 2004 12:02:13 +0500

Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 04:03:13 -0300

Message-Id: <0437074346.52997[at]unelili[at]chalky.com>

From: Joshua Jenkins <unelili[at]chalky.com>

To: Usenetfilter <xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>

Subject: you can drop 10 pounds in 1 week

MIME-Version: 1.0 (produced by aquilaresidual 6.5)

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;

boundary="--111707388907682"

x-recipient:<xxxxx[at]xxxxx.com>

Miss Betsy · April 4, 2004

I don't have the technical expertise to explain to you what went wrong.

However, spamcop needs the raw headers. Forwarding by any other method than "as attachment" does something to the headers (in this case puts them in HTML?)

Someone else may have the same application and will be able to tell you whether it can be done and if it can, how to do it.

Until they come along, see if you can find an option to 'forward as attachment' so the application does not change the email so spamcop cannot parse it.

Miss Betsy

Wazoo · April 4, 2004

where am I going wrong

no idea, but obviously the forwarding method is hosed. The first problem, what you posted is totally screwed, based on the wrod/line wrapping. Whether that's because of your method of cutting/pasting/posting or a result of your new app, no way to tell from here.

Best thing I can offer is to Forward one to yourself, then compare that to the original and see what all got hammered in the process. Then figure out how to fix that.

That said, I'm a bit knocked out over all the "[at]chalky.com" entries in what should be a "fully qualified domain name" and a domain name doesn't include the "[at]" sign.

24.86.6.123

host 24.86.6.123 = h24-86-6-123.vn.shawcable.net

CIDR: 24.80.0.0/13

OrgName: Shaw Communications Inc.

OrgAbuseEmail: internet.abuse[at]sjrb.ca

Lukas · April 4, 2004

where am I going wrong?

spamcop.submit expects spam-header and spam-body in the body of the submitting mail.

It will ignore the header of this submitting mail. A mail header from a spamcop-user to spamcop won't contain anything interesting

In your case spamcop.submit only gets the spam-message in the body. The spam-header is part of the mail-header it ignores...

(at least the sample you posted looks like.)

Lukas

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