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If I am reading this correctly, it would appear that something has gone weird with the IP addresses on received lines 1 and 2. The server names do not match, nor do the IPs match. Either hotmail is not reporting all the received lines to you or else, this is a hotmail internal email.
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On 10/30/2020 at 1:48 AM, Deckard said:
Is there a tool to reliably detect spamvertised images maybe on upload?
There was a tool I knew about years ago called dansguardian, but I am not sure if it is still a viable tool. I understand it could scan images.
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On 10/27/2020 at 2:31 PM, petzl said:
https://www.spamcop.net/sc?id=z6645759962zf8698377d1581a4b17606f61a9f5575bz
Seems working now?
Doesn't appear to be fixed. I see line #7 has the problem still
7: Received: from process_milters-daemon.rn-mailsvcp-relay-lapp04.rno.apple.com by rn-mailsvcp-relay-lapp04.rno.apple.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.1.0.6.20200729 64bit (built Jul 29 2020)) id <0QF100500ALEFW00@rn-mailsvcp-relay-lapp04.rno.apple.com> for x (ORCPT x); Thu, 13 Aug 2020 20:24:51 -0700 (PDT) No unique hostname found for source: 8.1.0.6 mac.com received mail from sending system 8.1.0.6 -
1 hour ago, petzl said:
Need to sign up with a valid credit card warning each spam complaint will be charged $100. a reply below took over a month for one.
As much as I agree with this, I remember a company called "America OnLine" (AOL) who has sent out floppies and later CDs in the 1990s. You could use their free month, but they required a valid credit card. I didn't feel like giving it to them, so I never used the free month. My guess is that maybe why they didn't get the customer base they desired.
I do not have a good replacement scheme for your suggestion and it appears it would stop the spammers.
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19 hours ago, Outernaut said:
I sent a email out from me@y.com to myself at a telecom email address. The headers showed the IP for the shared host email IP, followed by my ip at the telecom. If I understand you correctly, then my IP is showing? Is there a handy-dandy how-to for noobs you could recommend that addresses this issue of 'to bounce or just delete'. ?
It is correct that your IP will be showing since you started the test email. Your IP will not be showing when someone else starts the email as it will be their IP.
These suggests to send bounces to a local address and look at them:
https://www.spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/380.htmlThis suggests to check the device if it is the source of the spam:
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On 10/15/2020 at 10:53 AM, Snowbat said:
'51.120.0.0 - 51.120.255.255' is Microsoft but Spamcop reports 51.120.93.44 directly to the spammer. I've seen similar misreporting for other Microsoft-hosted spammers.
That is a good question. I would almost expect abuse@microsoft.com to be on the list as well in addition to the administrator's abuse address. I think this might be microsoft's cloud and it is going to the server admin, which may or may not be the spammer.
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1 hour ago, Snowbat said:
52.132.0.0 - 52.143.255.255 is a Microsoft netblock. Why is SpamCop not reporting this to abuse@microsoft?
That is a good question. I would almost expect abuse@microsoft.com to be on the list as well in addition to the administrator's abuse address. I think this might be microsoft's cloud and it is going to the server admin, which may or may not be the spammer.
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3 minutes ago, Snowbat said:
168.61.0.0 - 168.63.255.255 is a Microsoft netblock. Why isn't SpamCop reporting this to abuse@microsoft.com?
That is a good question. I would almost expect abuse@microsoft.com to be on the list as well in addition to the administrator's abuse address. I think this might be microsoft's cloud and it is going to the server admin, which may or may not be the spammer.
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1 hour ago, Snowbat said:
Whatever SpamCop is trying to do here is clearly broken and likely to deliver reports directly to spammers hosted on Microsoft.
That is a good question. I would almost expect abuse@microsoft.com to be on the list as well. I think this might be microsoft's cloud and it is going to the server admin, which may or may not be the spammer.
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15 hours ago, OneTimeOnly said:
Since I'm in charge of IT, I was required to figure out why the messages from the contact-us form didn't reach the email under our domain which as a result led me to the Junkmail/Spamcop logs.
I am not sure if this could be done in Cpanel, but one thing I had done for my RBL section was to add an exclusion for certain accounts in my exim setup. It is easier if the accounts are hidden and say alias accounts to the real thing.
local_parts = !postmaster : !abuseSomething I have also done is to use a scoring system such as spamassassin, so that a single RBL is not able to let me mail server block email.
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14 hours ago, OneTimeOnly said:
Other IP addresses are
- 50.31.49.42
- 167.89.12.138
- 50.31.49.41
I did find the following post where it appears that 50.31.49.41 has been used quite a bit in the past to sent spam.
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41 minutes ago, Outernaut said:
GURUS! Is it best practice to bounce, or not to bounce and just delete them?
I think some clarification needs to be around the word bounce. If you are bouncing during the smtp connection, then the bounce will not originate from your server, but will be sent from the sending server. If you accept the email, and then bounce later, it will be coming from your server.
My preference is to disable anything that might show my server's IP, such as a bounce after SMTP accept, and to have my server to reject during the SMTP connection so the IP in the bounce would be the sending server's IP, not mine.
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1 hour ago, Outernaut said:
First of all, I don't accept public wmail from clients. Either they use their real email, or they don't get a reply. So, when invoices go out, it's to real email address.
Ah, so any bounces from "postmaster@client_host.com" or from "<>" might have been rejected to your account. Also, those bounce replies would have gone to either "From: billing@anotherdomain.TLD" or to the mail__envelope_from you setup when the emails were sent. If you like, and it is visable, you can set to the mail headers "Warnings-To: billing@anotherdomain.TLD" or "Errors-To: billing@anotherdomain.TLD" to get problems, but these headers usually go out with the emails and could be visible.
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16 hours ago, lanny said:
As it turns out this was caused by my sending mailserver (Mailu) which replaces Recevied lines (even in attachments).
Ouch. That doesn't sound good. With the Received lines being replaced, the only way to find the IP is to go back to the logs on each server and look up the "id" from the received line. (That is, as long as it didn't change that too.)
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21 hours ago, o.ukraintsev said:
we have received a summary report on one of our IPs
I am a volunteer too. You mentioned a summary report and ARF format. If I remember correctly those came from the "ISP Control Center" account as an hourly or daily email as "Third party interested in daily aggregate summary reports".
19 hours ago, Lking said:The spam report you received does contain a copy of the offending email (most likely with the destination address obscured).
There would have been a separate email that Lking is talking about that contain a link to the spam. This email would have been sent to abuse address as defined in your local internet registry's whois service.
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On 10/3/2020 at 2:40 PM, petzl said:
Just used my FireFox browser no issue?
My firefox showed invalid certificate until I made a permanent exception. Some of the providers use multiple ssl certificates for a connection, but this is not one of those sites.
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On 9/30/2020 at 4:39 PM, jakeqz said:
I know. Often they had the Gmail address before the website, and to have two email addresses seems a complexity beyond them. "But I can set up forwarding for you." "Too complicated." "An email account @yourwebsite will look more professional." "I'm doing fine. I just wanted a website, that's all."
That is why I either use the imap downloading offered in email client downloads, or if I have my own server, I use fetchmail. This way, I do not abandon the old account and replies can come from the new account.
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3 hours ago, nei1_j said:
Am I interpreting the timeline correctly, that Yahoo is delaying delivering spams? Anyone else notice this? Even before their last corporate takeover, I've seen this behavior from some Yahoo spams.
Or, is it a trick by the spammer?
The date in the receive line should be added by Yahoo's servers, and the spammer should not be able to trick the server into putting in the wrong date. As it is possible that there could be a bug in Yahoo's servers that they might need to fix, it is more likely that Yahoo has either the wrong date or a problem with their server's ability to deliver email. Yahoo should be the one to fix such a bug, queue processing, and the time on the servers.
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On 9/23/2020 at 10:03 AM, KNERD said:
I did go back and try, and it was then finding the IP address of the old message, but more than 48 hours had passed
Hmmm, I wonder if it works for you if you wait without doing anything. Such as revising a tracking URL that didn't work after an hour or two. If so, might be some other issue.
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On 9/22/2020 at 4:50 PM, john6528 said:
Forward the sms span to 7726 (spam).
sounds like something tied to the US Federal Trade Commission.
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On 9/27/2020 at 11:36 AM, Outernaut said:
I find a number of 404's and wonder if SpamCop is eroding away
I found some of the pages are still there, but when they upgrade the forum a few years back the links changed. Trying to search for the pages seem to bring the up for me. I don't like how the links don't always work after that upgrade.
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On 9/27/2020 at 12:09 PM, Outernaut said:
Recently, none get through, and I only find out after 2 months when no one has paid - they are not getting them. I get copies from same account that sends the invoices.
I am curious if you are not getting bounces or if the invoice emails are going to their spam folders and they are not paying attention to it. Google has made some changes to their spam folders a few years back and now I have to check the spam folder on a daily basis for non-spam email.
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On 9/26/2020 at 1:48 PM, pedza said:
I have visited spamcop site and check our mail server IP address - the result is: OUR_MAIL_SERVER_IP_ADDRESS not listed in bl.spamcop.net
Also good to know is that some people would make their own blacklist or point it to spamhaus, but leave the "data response" section indicating it was done by SpamCop. The following is one configuration that was found a few years back and you can see that there can be more than one blacklist on the message.
reject_domains: deny message = rejected because $sender_host_address is in a black list at bl.spamcop.net dnslists = bl.spamcop.net : sbl.spamhaus.org : xbl.spamhaus.org
I do not like how someone people left their configurations blaming SpamCop if (such as this example) the IP is on a blacklist at SpamCop or spamhaus. If your mail server IP is not listed in bl.spamcop.net, either it was for a small time or the email provider has their own blacklist and is blaming SpamCop. Those, I have to use my hotmail email to ask them why since they could be blocking my other address.
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On 9/28/2020 at 3:01 AM, Lodewijk said:
If I still were getting lots of spam, and also others had the issue of their ISP's spam filter blocking their reporting to SpamCop, I would suggest the latter no longer use the word "spam" in their reporting and asking for confirmation email addresses.
If they cannot remove the filter, maybe one possible option is for them to whitelist the mfrom domain of SpamCop.net or give it a non-spam score.
It would be nice to not use the word "spam" in a filter. But then what kind of spammer would actually use the word "spam" in their emails?
To Bounce or Not to Bounce?
in SpamCop Forum
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After reading https: //docs.cpanel.net/knowledge-base/email/how-to-configure-email-filters/, it appears that Global Email Filters uses spamassassin. Spamassassin usually scans the email after it has be received, but before it was accepted. This means a bounce should not originate from your server.
I think a question here is whether cPanel's Global Email Filter's "Fail with Message" does it before or after it is accepted. A message can be sent along with the rejection to the sending server at the time of rejection. It maybe good ask the cPanel folks if your question does not get a reply.