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  1. I realized something I forgot to add to my last post. I see the possibility that spam is what is going to my list's unsubscribe address from those fake addresses. If that is what's happening, I wonder if that would cause the ultimate listing on the SpamCop BL? I have no idea whether Yahoo uses the number of unsubscribe requests to determine whether a list is spamming but this seems possible. If someone who is not a subscriber sends an email to my list address, it is bounced. Apparently, though, if someone sends an email to the unsubscribe address for the list, it goes through. That is something, I think, which Yahoo should change. That doesn't mean that I think Yahoo will ever do anything helpful to prevent spam. Yahoo's privacy statement is very clear about collecting and using personal information. Yahoo is a great site for spammers or anyone or any country wanting to be outside the law. Just think about the information that has been given to foreign countries lately from sites like Yahoo. I'd change to another list provider but I don't know of any others which are still free. Again, hopefully this will help us all get to the bottom of what's happening and find some resolution.
  2. I own a list at Yahoo Groups and have wondered for a long time why emails I send to the list end up blacklisted by using SpamCop's blacklist. I use MailWasher and if my own address is not whitelisted (friends list), I see the email is blacklisted by SpamCop's list. I have not seen the list emails blacklisted when coming from another member. Maybe that's coincidence. Having just looked at the logs for my Yahoo Groups list, I find that there are over 100 fake requests to be unsubscribed. These requests are fake as there are no such members on my list and the addresses are obviously fake. My Yahoo Groups list is not publicized, so I'm also wondering how anyone outside my mailing list got the list address and the method with which to request removal. I suppose that someone whose computer was compromised could have leaked out my list address but that doesn't explain how the list keeps getting reported to SpamCop as a source of spam - unless you're right that it's the Yahoo outgoing email server IP that's really being blacklisted. I have asked my list members several times if any of them have reported the list emails as spam and apparently none of them have. Do any of you have ideas as to how I could be getting so many fake unsubscribe requests? I give this info and ask this question because I think the folks at SpamCop should know what is happening. Maybe this information will help improve the situation with eliminating real spam and allowing legitimate email to get through. Here's a portion of the unsubscribe requests listing. These fake requests started in May 2005 and are still ongoing. My list has never had many more than 20 members and none of the following addresses belong or belonged to any of them. I hope that this information will help us get things back the way they should be. Mar 19, 2006 9:02 am bdryivchgnln[at]correo1.com Unsubscribe requested Mar 24, 2006 6:00 pm dzgqohbh[at]ciberaula.infase.es Unsubscribe requested Mar 25, 2006 12:10 pm dgqwjwiuu[at]malaysia.net Unsubscribe requested Mar 28, 2006 5:00 pm pqmip[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Mar 29, 2006 3:02 pm exenokv[at]yahoo.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 1, 2006 5:57 am cfmahdtfb[at]yahoo.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 1, 2006 12:47 pm cmuvwxdeee[at]poczta.onet.pl Unsubscribe requested Apr 2, 2006 9:38 pm pogol[at]yahoo.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 8, 2006 10:41 pm gcjrxech[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 9, 2006 6:28 am andrea.schalk[at]cl.cam.ac.uk Unsubscribe requested Apr 9, 2006 7:39 pm edwagdhyknmpzn[at]lomondplant.co.uk Unsubscribe requested Apr 11, 2006 7:31 pm jqrzuxtrox[at]copyservis.cz Unsubscribe requested Apr 13, 2006 7:38 am vrzgbsevzzopjo[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 14, 2006 12:37 am nirwoadcxtlhyc[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 15, 2006 10:09 pm ublbbkxqjbphp[at]lavoixdunord.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 18, 2006 11:14 am hsdswpjpu[at]unitedservices.ab.ca Unsubscribe requested Apr 19, 2006 6:58 pm uymkemgodmh[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 23, 2006 4:34 am jmhavscnubd[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 27, 2006 3:12 pm zgojhs[at]hotmail.com Unsubscribe requested Apr 28, 2006 7:26 am ykznqjvu[at]unipos.co.za Unsubscribe requested Apr 30, 2006 4:41 am jkzvstaxdro[at]stridh.net Unsubscribe requested Apr 30, 2006 5:15 am adie[at]cix.compulink.co.uk Unsubscribe requested May 1, 2006 4:00 am fkjxj[at]yahoo.com Unsubscribe requested May 4, 2006 4:21 pm nglog[at]yahoo.com Unsubscribe requested May 6, 2006 4:19 am uptbueganmlbb[at]cskinetgw.cskb.csk.co.jp Unsubscribe requested May 9, 2006 2:43 pm psabovvnququvh[at]yahoo.com Unsubscribe requested May 12, 2006 2:28 am pnlubzqhrqr[at]graphice.com Unsubscribe requested May 17, 2006 8:29 am cnqjcexjgpci[at]aplusbrokerage.com Unsubscribe requested May 20, 2006 5:50 am ovpvdsimvldidk[at]tofi.de Unsubscribe requested
  3. I haven't seen any reports going back to my own provider(s) that didn't seem to need to go there (the spammer was on the same ISP and was not identified as coming from my address, in other words). I have seen some emails which show "ORCPT xxx[at]xxx.com" where xxx[at]xxx.com indicates an account that I forward to the one I actually use and report from. After some brief tests, it looked like this meant the original email was addressed to the forwarded account and was then sent through to my main account. It also appeared that the ISP of the forwarded account was only being notified of spam if the real sender was from the same ISP (and was not being reported as spam for merely being forwarded). Without getting specific with real addresses here in the open, does that sound like the way it should work? Scott
  4. Sure, I understand. When I started this topic, I was asking about something else and had no idea that there was anything such as quick reporting to even know to search for it. I did search for posts about munged reports and the last thing I found was from a year or two ago. Now that I know there are things in the forum FAQs which are not in the SpamCop FAQs, I'll take a look at the ones in the forum to see what I've been missing. I've been using the quick reporting for a couple of days and I like it. I frees me from having to sit at the computer for such a long time finishing the reporting at the SpamCop site. From the looks of it, it's just as effective as "normal" reporting and takes much less time. Of course, I do take a look at each email in MailWasher before I submit it so that I know it's not from someone trusted. Thanks to all of you for the help. Scott
  5. Thanks, Miss Betsy. I did not know there was such as thing as quick reporting available here. When that was mentioned earlier, I didn't understand what it was. In my recent browsing of the SpamCop help pages, I did not see any mention of this. I'll try it and see how I like it. Anything to speed up reporting for me will be a great help. Scott
  6. Thanks for giving me a boost, Andrew. It's doubtful that I'll ever stop reporting spam but it takes so much time. I'm using MailWasher to handle the initial examination with blacklists and my own eyes looking at a preview quickly as I click the SpamCop box for each spam. That's fine and doesn't take all that much time but it still takes time. Then, I have to finalize the reporting for each one at SpamCop. That takes a lot of time. It isn't as automated as I'd like it to be. Scott
  7. Thanks for the reference, Wazoo. I'll take a look.
  8. I understand. I use the blacklists but as I said, my own email to myself was blacklisted for some strange reason at least once. I only discovered that because I had reinstalled MailWasher and had not reconstructed the "friends" list yet. Once an address is added to the "friends" list, the blacklist notice is replaced by "Friend." I can't trust the blacklists alone to block spam and not block wanted email. Other "friends" have shown to be blacklisted, too. I've been concerned that my emails have been blocked between me and the people I send email to because of improperly set filters. It's a horrible problem. So, I use the blacklists but I also give a cursory look at all incoming emails with MailWasher to see which are wanted and which are spam. That takes a lot of time. That's my complaint. I'll probably keep on doing it because it's the "only way" but that doesn't mean I like it. :-( Thanks for the encouragement. I'm not a quitter but things like this get terribly frustrating as I'm sure you well know.
  9. Hi, Farelf. I searched for this and it looked like the latest it was mentioned was 2004. That's why I mentioned it again. I'm wondering more and more if it's worth my time to sit at the computer and tag 30 or more emails a day in MailWasher for SpamCop reporting, then spend the time finalizing sending the reports at SpamCop. I still get about as many spam emails now as I've ever gotten per day. I've been reporting spam with SpamCop for a few years. Do any of the reporting methods really help? I used to think reporting helped but I'm not so sure anymore. I want to do my part and pitch in but it's getting VERY monotonous. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. It's one thing to be put on a blacklist but that does not stop spammers. An email I sent to myself showed up as blacklisted once when I had reinstalled MailWasher and started from scratch without the "friends" list. I'm still trying to figure out why my own email to myself showed up as blacklisted by the SpamCop list. It was there for one email, then didn't happen again for a test just a few minutes later. I'm just wondering if I should continue reporting. If someone can show me that it's helping, I will certainly continue. Best regards, Scott
  10. I have noticed more and more lately that my username is included in the subject line and/or the message body of spam emails. SpamCop reports still include this information even for munged reports (the only kind I send). So, that along with the domain of my ISP which is left in the report gives the spammer confirmation that I received the spam. Can't the system be modified to search for any instance of the username in the headers and the body so it can be removed for munged reports? I really appreciate the service that SpamCop offers but it seems like this is something important which has been overlooked. Scott
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